Ron Paul soon to be out

[qh4dotcom]

If only Bloomberg didn't have a terrible foreign policy. Plus, do you think America will vote for a Jewish guy?

Don't forget Liebermann was Gore's VP in 2000 and they won the popular vote. Liebermann is Jewish.

However I don't see how a Jewish Bloomberg would accept Ron Paul's position about not being a nanny to Israel.

 

[literatim]

Really nice of you people that have already voted to dictate this. Go to hell.

 

[Shink]

can you blame people for not voting? his campaigners obviously dont know how to use the funds.

No amount of money to the campaign could lift the media blockade. Shit--we only smashed all-time records in American political history.

Keep pushing the message. By the way--if you call yourself a supporter but choose not to vote for him, I call you a worthless spectator.

 

[Ron2Win]

Sadly, I think this is very true

People saw $5 mil.. and thought bam! Done... and promptly stopped donating.

Wow, that is truly ineptitude of the campaign.

What about the people that only learned about Dr. Paul 1 week ago, did they know about the boost or the 3 mil already gathered?

wtf??

I thought it was 5 mil and 8 mil for the quarter...

 

[Xyrus2]

I think the big reason for donations drying up isn't lack of support for the message or Paul, but a lack of support for HQ.

Seriously, how many people have seen a Ron Paul commericial aside from YouTube? How many people have received flyers, or phone calls, or heard radio ads? I would have expected that the boards would have lit up a little here with some reports of this, but it seem like it was all grassroots guys trying to get chipins for newspaper ads and such.

I've donated a good chunk of change to the campaign (not maxed out yet), but my enthusiasm for donating to the campaign has dwindled. And it's not because we're losing primaries. At this point, I'm more inclined to just donate to my local grassroots efforts and other chipins, since the impression I have been receiving from HQ is not very good.

Don't get me wrong. I'm still doing mailers and canvassing. I still support Ron Paul 250%. I just don't have nearly as much faith in HQ as I once did.

~X~

 

[Jae0]

I havent seen or gotten anything from HQ... BECAUSE IM IN INDIANA. Of course a lot of people arent going to see anything. They cant afford to get stuff for everywhere!

"I thought it was 5 mil and 8 mil for the quarter..."

Why would he only want 8 million for the whole quarter?! Thats not enough to do anything with

 

[Goldwater Conservative]

Why would he officially drop out? Even if he runs out of money, he could just let his name stay on the ballot and hopefully pick up more delegates. Dropping out would get him no more delegates and unbind those he already has. Other candidates drop out to save political face and endorse someone else, but Paul doesn't care about the first and won't do the second. His campaign will either forge on or wither, but it won't die outright, or at least it wouldn't make sense for them to put an end to it that way.

 

[Dave Pedersen]

Donations have been quite strong with new donors making up a big percentage of the total donors each day. If HQ would let 200 staffers go they could make the donations last a lot longer without losing any effect.

 

[damoncrowe]

I thought 5 million by 5th and 8 by Q too. I'm broke, though, so my donating is done for awhile.

 

[blakjak]

Why did everyone give up on this run and hope for a third party run?

Have you seen the results tonight?

 

[virginiakid]

Something tells me that we are about to see a McCain sweep.

 

[Bruno]

speaking of buying the president, where is a billionaire to support you when you need him? (not Bloomberg). If money were no object, the word could get out.

 

[syborius]

This might sound crazy but how about a

Paul/Bloomberg ticket?

We wouldn't have to worry about money

yeah, how about a Paul/Giulliani ticket?

 

[smtwngrl]

We came 3 million short of the fundraising goal that was needed by today. The Paul campaign will NOT operate in debt like the others. Ron Paul said as long as there is support and money coming in, he will keep fighting. We've never come short of a goal this badly, and after today we may see more reluctance than ever to donate.

People would rather donate to grassroots efforts because the campaign is "incompetent". Well I hope you realize that the campaign needs money to just be in the race as it is. We stop donating because we don't like how they run things, and there's no more Ron Paul.

Yes, you hit the nail on the head--words of truth. I've been thinking the same thing. I don't think they're broke yet, but it could get to that point. I don't think Ron Paul is planning to run 3rd party, but if he leaves the race because of lack of sufficient funds, he definitely won't.

 

[Alex Libman]

The only point of running as a Republican was to be in the debates. Period. It's time for Ron Paul to switch to the Libertarian Party.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

The only point of running as a Republican was to be in the debates. Period. It's time for Ron Paul to switch to the Libertarian Party.

This is how I feel.

 

[AlexMerced]

The only point of running as a Republican was to be in the debates. Period. It's time for Ron Paul to switch to the Libertarian Party.

I agree, but I don't think the libertarian party is the answer

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

I agree, but I don't think the libertarian party is the answer

An independent run would be better, and then perhaps folding the Libertarian Party into a new party in a couple of years, after the 08 election. The LP is a complete mess. It needs a fresh start under Ron Paul's banner.

The Libertarian Party has been thinking about switching its name to the Liberty Party, and this would be the time to do it. The thing about libertarians is that we have to be reasonable and practical. Arguing that the government cannot build roads or fire stations if a LOSING position and will doom the LP to its current status forever. Libertarians need to learn to be more practical, like Ron is.

 

[TastyWheat]

Yeah, I thought failing to meet the goal was pretty pathetic. I gave birthday money to his campaign. I redeemed the money in my coin jar and gave that to the campaign too.

 

[Alex Libman]

No one party can hold a monopoly on (small-l) libertarian politics, but IMHO the (big-L) Libertarian Party is good enough for now. If you want other small-l parties [WP], there's the Boston Tea Party, Capitalist Party USA, Personal Choice Party, Jefferson Republican Party (which might be a good choice for Ron Paul), etc. Which one he picks is up to him.

The disadvantages of running as an independent are very significant. He'll have to use his own funds to do what the party infrastructure could do for him, like dealing with state bureaucracies to get on ballots. The Dems fought like hell to exclude Nader in 2004, and the Reps will undoubtedly be 10 times worse on "traitor Paul"! And he'll no longer be able to say that he's running on "message" rather than charisma because the message is much better represented by those aforementioned parties.

A lot of people (like myself) would vote for a Libertarian Party candidate over Ron Paul if he's running as an independent. A vote for Ron Paul as an independent in 2008 will not be worth anything come 2012, while parties can build momentum, elect people into local offices, build up party infrastructure, build name recognition, etc.