Ron Paul shows support of Gary Johnson as potential 2012 candidate

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Paul, whose anti-Iraq war views won him jeers at some Republican events in 2008, says a Libertarian-minded GOP candidate will be better received when Obama runs for re-election. But he cautioned that he himself has not decided to run. “It’s too early for me to talk much about that because I haven’t made a decision. I haven’t ruled it out, but I’m not on the verge of making a decision anytime soon,” Paul said.

Asked to name other potential presidential candidates he could support, Paul replied, “I guess the best one would be Johnson from New Mexico — Gary Johnson.”

Johnson, an ultra-marathon runner who was governor from 1995 to 2003 and endorsed Paul in 2008, is beloved by Libertarians for his many vetoes and privatizations while in office, and for championing school choice and drug decriminalization.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/21/r...rtarian-minded-nominee-in-2012/#ixzz0rT9taKYr

And WTF is David Boaz's problem?
“You can’t nominate just anybody, you have to nominate somebody,” Boaz said. “And plausible Libertarian-minded candidates are hard to find. Ron Paul may make some noise, and may run, but House members don’t get nominated for president. Gary Johnson has a great Libertarian record, but he doesn’t yet have much national recognition.”

Boaz did say that “a governor with a good record, like Mitch Daniels or Chris Christie, might be a candidate who could attract support from conservatives, lLbertarians, and independents,” if they could get around Romney.

First of all, Barack Obama was virtually unknown until he started his '07 campaign. Secondly, there is a tea party shake up of the establishment going on. And third, Ron Paul obviously does well with libertarians and independents, and "conservatives" will vote for whoever the hell the Republican party nominates. John McCain anyone? And besides that, RP even has some appeal to the left, while Obama's popularity there continues to wane.
 
Ron Paul should run in 2012 with Gary Johnson's endorsement, and in 2016 Gary Johnson can run with Paul's endorsement.
 
I was too distracted by the word "Libertarian" (big-L) used 17-freakin times.

someone fire their editors!
 
Ron Paul should run in 2012 with Gary Johnson's endorsement, and in 2016 Gary Johnson can run with Paul's endorsement.

I say none run for President in 2012. Gary Johnson should run for Senator, Ron should remain where he is, Rand should dominate in the Senate, and we should promote MARK SANFO...oh, nvm.

damn you Mark, DAMN YOU TO HELL!
 
I say none run for President in 2012. Gary Johnson should run for Senator, Ron should remain where he is, Rand should dominate in the Senate, and we should promote MARK SANFO...oh, nvm.

damn you Mark, DAMN YOU TO HELL!

Yep. Sanford was our guy who could win and he frickin' blew it because he couldn't keep his pants zipped.

Johnson and Rand Paul for Senate. Ron Paul for President. Why not? I doubt Ron Paul will stay in the U.S. Congress much longer regardless, why not just go for it?
 
Johnson believes gay marriage should be legal and that abortions should be legal while Ron Paul differs on those issues. I'd vote for him without hesitation, but I doubt that Republicans would back anyone that supports freedom.
 
done on that

Johnson believes gay marriage should be legal and that abortions should be legal while Ron Paul differs on those issues. I'd vote for him without hesitation, but I doubt that Republicans would back anyone that supports freedom.

you are right about that result, but not the reason.

even freedom has its limits, and on those two issues Johnson would be out of the running for me.

paleocon -- lynn
 
I thought that Ron personally opposes gay marrige but that he acknoledges that government has no business in a volentary union.
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=QGaBAb_oS84&feature=related
Anyway, Gary Johnson seems to be a very good and honest man and I belive he is a good choise for president. Still laugh when i watch the clip where Schiff just tells him bluntly "...Why dont you just run for president?"
 
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Johnson is states rights on aborton and was endorsed by anti-abortion groups as Governor of New Mexico

the main problem with Johnson is his profile. Ron has got to make his mind up early and if he's not running get behind Johnson so we have plenty of time to build him up.

If Johnson is committed he then has to get to Iowa and New Hampshire and work it like a demon, like Rand did in Kentucky. It WILL pay off and give him a chance.
 
Gary Johnson has a great Libertarian record, but he doesn’t yet have much national recognition.”

Boaz did say that “a governor with a good record, like Mitch Daniels or Chris Christie, might be a candidate who could attract support from conservatives, lLbertarians, and independents,” if they could get around Romney.

Chris Christie's gubernatorial record is just over a year long. Not much of a record if you ask me. His biggest claim is that he is opposing the majority party.
 
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Yep. Sanford was our guy who could win and he frickin' blew it because he couldn't keep his pants zipped.

Johnson and Rand Paul for Senate. Ron Paul for President. Why not? I doubt Ron Paul will stay in the U.S. Congress much longer regardless, why not just go for it?

Would you rather the Mistress thing had popped up before or DURING a presidential run? It would've happened eventually, good thing it happened before people started seriously considering him.

As for Johnson, it's pointless in 2012 in my opinion. Paul's polling nationally at 6% and it took us years to get him as high and recognized as he is now. Even starting now for Johnson, it'd be 2007 all over again even with Paul's endorsement. Johnson just isn't Paul, his profile is far too low.
 
And WTF is David Boaz's problem?

Boaz is in bed with Rupert Murdoch. He's no libertarian.

I think Ron Paul has the national recognition, and if he's up for it and the winds are right he should run.

Otherwise, Johnson is a great candidate. He's out there right now doing what needs to be done to win. He's not out there getting national attention with the general public, he's out there going to Republican conferences, conventions, etc.

He's going to places that Republican primary voters go. He won in his state as an outsider, bumping out the establishment Republican and was re-elected in a big way.

At this point, you're not splitting anything by supporting them both.

http://www.TheRonPaulTeaParty.com
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com
 
Otherwise, Johnson is a great candidate. He's out there right now doing what needs to be done to win. He's not out there getting national attention with the general public, he's out there going to Republican conferences, conventions, etc.

He's going to places that Republican primary voters go.

Really? Everytime I hear him going somewhere it is to a liberal audience talking about pot. Hardly a winning topic for the Republican primaries.
 
I just can't get excited about Johnson...
He's a good guy, but he doesn't have the understanding of the issues like Ron.
Also, a pro-choice, open-borders Republican who spends most of his time talking about legalizing pot is not going anywhere in the GOP primaries, especially starting off with no name recognition.

Ron Paul 2012.
 
I just can't get excited about Johnson...
He's a good guy, but he doesn't have the understanding of the issues like Ron.
Also, a pro-choice, open-borders Republican who spends most of his time talking about legalizing pot is not going anywhere in the GOP primaries, especially starting off with no name recognition.

Ron Paul 2012.

This, exactly. However, it also says Ron might run. That I could get behind.

" As for what it would take to get him to run in 2012, Paul said it all depends on if the economy is still in shambles and troops are still bogged down in Afghanistan. He said he hopes he’s wrong, but thinks that will still be the case.

“I suspect the economic crisis is going to get a lot worse,” he said. “If it is, than the country becomes even more open to free-market alternatives. And I think that is going to stir my interest.”
 
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First of all, Barack Obama was virtually unknown until he started his '07 campaign. Secondly, there is a tea party shake up of the establishment going on. And third, Ron Paul obviously does well with libertarians and independents, and "conservatives" will vote for whoever the hell the Republican party nominates. John McCain anyone? And besides that, RP even has some appeal to the left, while Obama's popularity there continues to wane.

Ron has a much better chance of getting the nomination in 2012 than in 2008, that much is clear, and probably a better chance than Johnson. To be honest, I just don't see Gary Johnson winning the nomination. Ron is so much more inspiring, and I think the Tea Party would go nuts for him if he ran. Johnson is also not a very good debater, he obviously understands the issues but he doesn't know how to win a debate. Paul, on the other hand, has proven time and time again his ownage skills. It's clear that that association might garner some negativity, as most members of the Tea Party aren't all that bright (justifiably angry, but not quite sure why), and one campaign tactic is associativity (to types like Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck). I think Paul's honesty will triumph in the end, however.

Let's get real here, the only man for the job is Ron, if he so decides.
 
Paul should run again in 2012, though I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't because of the age issue. Either way he should decide right after the mis term elections, so if he doesn't run he can throw support behind Johnson or other liberty candidate, who we could then work on building up for the 2012 cycle. Johnson would be a suitable VP choice for Paul, even counting his variations on some cultural issues, because Gary speaks the same language of principle as Paul, and so could reconcile the differences.
 
I don't intend to be mean or anything, but to hell with Gary Johnson! It's all RON PAUL or nothing! I'm not dumping any of my hard earned money into anybody elses coughers other than Ron Paul for president. And oh yeah...Gary who?
 
Gary has to stop mentioning drugs in his stump and be more like Rand, some of what he said was good like on Afghanistan and Iraq and how he sold it but on drugs it's not an easy sell to GOP primary voters so instead talk about the budget etc or something else...

If Ron doesn't run I hope Johnson does with grassroots guidiance I think he can sharpen up his message and if he pounds Iowa and New Hampshire and has the money , he can do well. remember Huck in Iowa, he had a lot less money than us but better organization, said and did the right things and ended up victorious.

We need Johnson to do similar and to take aim at Romney, take him on like Rand took on Trey and frame the race in Iowa voters minds between those 2. Ron should do the same if he runs, drop educating the public and go after Romney, healthcare in MA and his flip flops on abortion
 
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