Ron Paul says Trump doesn't understand how the rigging works.

[erowe1]

I find it amusing that some here seem to believe that it is easier to convince 50% + 1 of voters in the Republican primary to support a (true) liberty candidate than it is to simply get involved and influence the party by becoming delegates. Just so you all know, most of the delegates are not diabolical RNC henchmen. They're normal, everyday people who simply decided to get involved in the process.

There is corruption and then their is laziness/ineptness. Corruption is when they have your delegates & supporters arrested, or when they shut down conventions despite against their own rules, or when they change rules after the fact. Ineptness is when you have no clue what you are doing and fail to get any of your supporters to show up and vote for your delegates, or to even properly identify and qualify a proper slate of delegates.

Donald Trump is correct that the process is rigged, but is dangerously wrong on what is being rigged. Now you are going to have all his low information followers complaining that the entire thing should be a primary which is exactly what the establishment wants and will embrace.

Who would have guessed that so many supposed Ron Paul supporters can't even understand the differences between a representative republic and a democracy.

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[Mordan]

Bull$#@!.

You were here calling members "moron", which is apparently your mission in life. There were plenty of shills in these forums confusing the matter as well. The Ron Paul campaign people in my state were clueless and balls less.


From an April 11th interview, for the dullards among us...

+1 Bossobass

Ron Paul wouldn't even break all the stops to denounce the GOP corruption. Erowe and others keep hiding behind the Democracy/Republic non-existent issue to defend a RIGGED and CROOKED system. Trump and Ron Paul agree.

 

[Mordan]

How is Trump right? Please explain.

The problem is. In the General Election, you have 2 choices and those 2 choices are made by power brokers in both parties. Are you blind there isn't something wrong. You can't say "Oh let those private entities do whatever they want to pick the nominee" for the sake of being private entities.

 

[CPUd]

The problem is. In the General Election, you have 2 choices and those 2 choices are made by power brokers in both parties. Are you blind there isn't something wrong. You can't say "Oh let those private entities do whatever they want to pick the nominee" for the sake of being private entities.

If you believe there are only 2 choices, then you are proof positive that it's not the system that is rigged, it's the voters.

 

[openfire]

+1 Bossobass

Ron Paul wouldn't even break all the stops to denounce the GOP corruption. Erowe and others keep hiding behind the Democracy/Republic non-existent issue to defend a RIGGED and CROOKED system. Trump and Ron Paul agree.

Precisely.

Exhibit A:

 

[openfire]

If you believe there are only 2 choices, then you are proof positive that it's not the system that is rigged, it's the voters.

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[Bossobass]

Where's the part about Ron Paul not knowing the rules? It looks like according to your own evidence, he knows the rules pretty well.

Being Ron Paul supporters doesn't make us shills. That's the point of this website. And when trolls who come here trying to sell other candidates who oppose everything we stand for get called out on it, that's what's supposed to happen. Take your whining somewhere else.

Thanks for the lecture, Everyone-Should-Be-You. Typical of your non-contributions. So, how does Ron show he didn't know/cope with/contest the rigging "rules" (your word)?

Rule 40(b) of “The Rules of the Republican Party” was changed so the Republican National Committee could “limit the visibility and power of libertarian-minded Texas Rep. Ron Paul at the convention...

If the "rules" were arbitrarily changed, what was RP, psychic? You contend he knew that was a possibility? Right. And, if he somehow knew the rule that was changed before it was changed, what did he do about it?

If RP "recalled his own encounter" with a rules change as "a lesson for himself and America" what lesson would there be if he knew? Here's a hint, shill; there was a lesson for RP because he didn't know and was cheated. That's only a single incident of the rampant corruption that cheated RP out of the nomination in 2012, facts that obviously escape you.

Try to get this, Wizard; the Trump delegates were eliminated from the ballots before hand and by altered ballots and told to go home. Shills like yourself are spewing the "no harm, no foul" meme. Exactly what part of "all rigged", "corrupt", "undemocratic", "so much deceit goes on" don't you get? Or, are you just fond of interpreting RP's words to fit your Trump hate?

 

[fcreature]

Erowe and others keep hiding behind the Democracy/Republic non-existent issue to defend a RIGGED and CROOKED system. Trump and Ron Paul agree.

Yes, they agree with the problem. So what? Socialists and libertarians agree on many things. We agree that the current system is corrupt but libertarians know that the corruption stems from the government being too involved and socialists think there isn't enough involvement. Following your logic, socialists must be correct because, hey, the system is rigged.

Agreeing on the premise does not validate Trump's conclusions or his reasoning. How one comes to a conclusion is rather important. Trump does not understand what the true corruption is.

 

[CPUd]

Thanks for the lecture, Everyone-Should-Be-You. Typical of your non-contributions. So, how does Ron show he didn't know/cope with/contest the rigging "rules" (your word)?



If the "rules" were arbitrarily changed, what was RP, psychic? You contend he knew that was a possibility? Right. And, if he somehow knew the rule that was changed before it was changed, what did he do about it?

If RP "recalled his own encounter" with a rules change as "a lesson for himself and America" what lesson would there be if he knew? Here's a hint, shill; there was a lesson for RP because he didn't know and was cheated. That's only a single incident of the rampant corruption that cheated RP out of the nomination in 2012, facts that obviously escape you.

Try to get this, Wizard; the Trump delegates were eliminated from the ballots before hand and by altered ballots and told to go home. Shills like yourself are spewing the "no harm, no foul" meme. Exactly what part of "all rigged", "corrupt", "undemocratic", "so much deceit goes on" don't you get? Or, are you just fond of interpreting RP's words to fit your Trump hate?

You need to learn how to make your points without resorting to personal attacks.

 

[openfire]

You need to learn how to make your points without resorting to personal attacks.

This, coming from someone who consistently compares members to chimpanzees.

hypocrite

[hip-uh-krit]

noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

 

[Bossobass]

You need to learn how to make your points without resorting to personal attacks.

When anyone neg reps me "for being a moron", he/she reaps the blowback until hell freezes over, and… you need to stop telling people what they need to do.

 

[CPUd]

When anyone neg reps me "for being a moron", he/she reaps the blowback until hell freezes over, and… you need to stop telling people what they need to do.

Just trying to help you out.

 

[openfire]

Just trying to help you out.

BS. You are just trying to be a prick. And succeeding.

 

[erowe1]

The problem is. In the General Election, you have 2 choices and those 2 choices are made by power brokers in both parties. Are you blind there isn't something wrong. You can't say "Oh let those private entities do whatever they want to pick the nominee" for the sake of being private entities.

What does this have to do with Trump being right about something? And who are you replying to? Your response has nothing to do with anything I said.

 

[erowe1]

BS. You are just trying to be a prick. And succeeding.

Which one of you two is the Trump supporter?

 

[erowe1]

When anyone neg reps me "for being a moron", he/she reaps the blowback until hell freezes over, and… you need to stop telling people what they need to do.

"You must spread some [negative] Reputation around before giving it to Bossobass again."

 

[erowe1]

Erowe and others keep hiding behind the Democracy/Republic non-existent issue to defend a RIGGED and CROOKED system.

Can you quote me doing that?

Trump and Ron Paul agree.

About what? They obviously don't agree about what RP is talking about in the OP.

 

[erowe1]

Thanks for the lecture, Everyone-Should-Be-You. Typical of your non-contributions. So, how does Ron show he didn't know/cope with/contest the rigging "rules" (your word)?



If the "rules" were arbitrarily changed, what was RP, psychic? You contend he knew that was a possibility? Right. And, if he somehow knew the rule that was changed before it was changed, what did he do about it?

If RP "recalled his own encounter" with a rules change as "a lesson for himself and America" what lesson would there be if he knew? Here's a hint, shill; there was a lesson for RP because he didn't know and was cheated. That's only a single incident of the rampant corruption that cheated RP out of the nomination in 2012, facts that obviously escape you.

Try to get this, Wizard; the Trump delegates were eliminated from the ballots before hand and by altered ballots and told to go home. Shills like yourself are spewing the "no harm, no foul" meme. Exactly what part of "all rigged", "corrupt", "undemocratic", "so much deceit goes on" don't you get? Or, are you just fond of interpreting RP's words to fit your Trump hate?

You're changing the subject. Earlier you claimed that Ron Paul was a lazy idiot like you and Trump who didn't know the rules. Now you're talking about the GOP making a new rule. Those are two totally different things.

The rule you're talking about was irrelevant anyway. At that point Ron Paul had already stopped campaigning and had informed his own delegates that he didn't even want them to nominate him.

And there you go again calling Ron Paul supporters shills. Why are you even here? If you want a Trump forum, I'm sure they're out there.

 

[erowe1]

You need to learn how to make your points without resorting to personal attacks.

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[dude58677]

In the long run this GOP race is very very good for America. If Donald Trump wins then we no longer have career politicians. If Ted Cruz wins then the American public is educated that we live in a Republic and not a democracy and it would be well understood why it is a good thing.

These candidates are terrible on alot of the issues although clearly better than Hilliary and Bernie. Thus why I said it is better in the long run that Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are the front runners.

Ron Paul is the inspiration for this 2016 race for having non-mainstream views and seeking delegates instead of focusing of primary wins.

So it all goes back to that blowback debate between Ron Paul and Rudy Gulliani which was the greatest Presidential debate since the Libcoln-Douglas debates.

Of course I'm being sarcastic because bandwagon voting has never worked.