Ron Paul Recants The GOP, Just Says No To Keynesians

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I think there is a bad node somewhere in the midwest. I've been having slow loads from east coast websites since last night. Damn internets.
 
In my opinion, he was saying he didn't own the GOP. That it was not currently reflecting his ideals.

I never said people "must" do anything. What people choose to do is their own decision.

Yes, but you take the position that by people leaving the republican party they are personally culpable for the damage that the loss of numbers will cause to any advances that have been made. That somehow they are being disloyal to Ron Paul and his party. It is trying to guilt people into furthering your chosen path because you might suffer a setback. It sucks and I am sorry if that happens but it is temporary and the goal should be the bigger picture. It is destructive to try and make working within the GOP some sort of litmus test. That is where I think his statements of the party being largely irrelevant come in to play. This video should be building bridges instead of wielding an ax over those who the GOP was only their party because of what a RP presidency would mean. Many people swallowed a bitter pill to associate themselves with the republican party and they should be set free to pursue their conscience with a godspeed and a kiss not a cold shoulder with rants of betrayal. I wonder how much this convention has surprised the good doctor in the level of corruption we face. He is very aware in so many ways but even the most jaded individuals can become disgusted and surprised when the face of evil shows itself.

What is funny is your attitude towards me is only making it easier to distance myself from those who want people to stay in the GOP and I am a fence sitter on the issue as I am not sure what will be most effective to do considering where I live. I really took the video in a positive light towards healing wounds here and not a personal call for what I should do or demand others to do and yet I have been made out to be some sort of dissident that needs to be silenced for the good of the party. Wth?
 
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Nobody said Ron Paul said what you're saying Ron Paul didn't say. There is a difference between what someone says and reasonable conclusions that can be drawn from what someone said.

Who said somebody said Ron Paul said what LE was saying Ron Paul didn't say? :toady:


I think the main thing to take from what Ron said is the point that this is an ideological revolution.

Regardless of what party people decide to work within, what will eventually, inevitably, inexorably change our government and our politics is the ideology of Liberty--because once it has reached such critical mass that it is the majority viewpoint in the nation, then those in power will be ousted with much more ease. At this point, it is a mathematical certainty. Like a nuclear reaction that is spreading and can't be stopped.
 
I don't agree.

But you've shown no evidence to back up your disagreement. You're free to have your own opinions, just not your own facts.

Right, and you didn't draw them. :p

Really? Let me quote someone I generally have respect for:

What people choose to do is their own decision.

Hmmmmmm......that's the conclusion I drew from what Ron said. That's the conclusion moonstracks drew from what Ron said. You seem to have come to the same conclusion. If you think you yourself are unreasonable I can't help you. ;)

Edit: And before you pipe in with "But that's just my own opinion" answer me this. Can you say with a straight face that a man who just said on national TV that the GOP is "not my party" and that it's the same as the democratic party and that he hates politics really believes anything other than "What people choose to do is their own decision"? Seriously, your logic doesn't compute.
 
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I think the main thing to take from what Ron said is the point that this is an ideological revolution.

Regardless of what party people decide to work within, what will eventually, inevitably, inexorably change our government and our politics is the ideology of Liberty--because once it has reached such critical mass that it is the majority viewpoint in the nation, then those in power will be ousted with much more ease. At this point, it is a mathematical certainty. Like a nuclear reaction that is spreading and can't be stopped.

Word.

“When the number of committed opinion holders is below 10 percent, there is no visible progress in the spread of ideas. It would literally take the amount of time comparable to the age of the universe for this size group to reach the majority,” said SCNARC Director Boleslaw Szymanski, the Claire and Roland Schmitt Distinguished Professor at Rensselaer. “Once that number grows above 10 percent, the idea spreads like flame.”

Read more at http://scienceblog.com/46622/minori...-for-the-spread-of-ideas/#GtXuYGqzomsSkQ0r.99

Oh and congrats on your tweet making CSPAN! Saw it live. Way to represent!
 
I think one can safely say that Ron Paul's fight is with the "real" government---> The Federal Reserve
 
That is not helping anything.

except perhaps his mental health,, and even physical health.
Stress is not good for anyone.

One thing about beating your head against a wall,,
It feels damn good when you stop.
 
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