Ron Paul Quotes Jesus, Conservatives Outraged

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Ron Paul Quotes Jesus, Conservatives Outraged
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/131829.html

Remember that time Ron Paul used the Golden Rule to explain his foreign policy? Conservatives booed him for that. So who can be surprised that conservatives have been falling all over themselves to condemn Paul for quoting Jesus -in correct context, by the way - to note that the violence wrought by over a decade of nonstop war in America leads to tragedy on the home front?

Every neocon pundit and middle-American red-blooded conservative took a few minutes out from running around shrieking "boo-yah" and polishing his dually F-250, to be outraged that someone dared suggest that a government employee wasn't a holy relic.

The Daily Caller was the first to the show, posting Paul's twitter post without comment and allowing the comment box to quickly fill with outraged Republicans who were dismayed that anyone would not endorse every action of every single taxpayer-funded soldier who ever drew a bead on some dirt-poor 12-year-old child-soldier 10,000 miles away. Others soon piled on.

The most transparent were the conservatives who claimed to be former supporters of Paul who must now go support some more "patriotic" politician: One who doesn't actually question anything the military does.

One member at RonPaulForums.com said "'Live by the sword, die by the sword' is what the dumbest, stupidest, most delusional people around here would say. There's no way that Ron actually said this. Ugh. How said [sic] and pathetic."

That seems to be the general reaction one gets from conservatives about the Golden Rule also.

This is what it comes down to for most conservatives, of course. All that stuff about laissez faire and freedom and free markets has never been more than an act and an affectation which goes right out the window if someone ever criticizes the US Government in a truly trenchant or penetrating manner.

Most of these sunshine patriots who now whine that Ron Paul has lost their support, wouldn't ever have supported Ron Paul in the first place if Obama weren't in office. Had Ron Paul run against a GOP incumbent, most of these timid and prevaricating "opponents" of big government would have condemned Paul for questioning the glorious deeds of "our" Commander-in-Chief. Among conservatives, Ron Paul has only ever had minority support, for in the end, conservatives love government, as exhibited by their latest outrage. They just love it in a slightly different way from the left liberals.

As I've noted before, the Tea Party movement, and most conservatives who pretend to be for small government, only act when there's a Democrat in office. During eight years of Bush shredding the constitution, spending money like there was no tomorrow, and inflating the money supply with his pals at the central bank, no conservative would walk ten feet to protest the federal government. But about five minutes after Obama was sworn in, the Tea Party protests swelled into a huge disingenuous show that will evaporate five minutes after any Republican is sworn into office, assuming the GOP can actually win a national election with one of the out-of-touch never-had-a-real-job rich boys they insist on nominating.

In the end of course, Ron Paul has never been about rallying people to himself. He has been about the message, and the message is about freedom. It is a logical impossibility to be simultaneously pro-freedom and pro-military. Patrick Henry, who called government soldiers "engines of despotism" knew this. Thomas Jefferson knew this. Every true friend of liberty from William Graham Sumner to Murray Rothbard knew this. And Ron Paul knows it. Some of his supporters, still stuck in the mindset of a form of Geezer Conservatism in which "freedom-lovers" bow and scrape before the US Government, denied that Ron Paul could have even agreed with the Twitter post. No such luck for them. The tradition of laissez faire is a tradition against standing armies, and wars, and deference to military "heroics." Conservatives who are troubled by this should probably be honest with themselves and find a candidate more suitable to their views. I hear Newt Gingrich is still taking donations.

All that.
 
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In my opinion, there is really no defense for the initial tweet sent out. It was in extremely poor taste given that the guy isn't even in the ground yet and has a family in mourning.

The second tweet made the same point, but was phrased in a way that someone besides true believers might actually hear what was being said.
 
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In my opinion, there is really no defense for the initial tweet sent out. It was in extremely poor taste given that the guy isn't even in the ground yet and has a family in mourning.

The second tweet made the same point, but was phrased in a way that someone besides true believers might actually hear what was being said.

I thought that earlier posted that RP didn't/couldn't have made this tweet? Isn't that a defense? Which sock puppet are we talking too. You get confusing at times. Just like Rand.
 
I thought that earlier posted that RP didn't/couldn't have made this tweet? Isn't that a defense? Which sock puppet are we talking too. You get confusing at times. Just like Rand.

I don't know who sent out the first tweet; nor do you. That is why I focused on what was said in the tweets.

Note: In case you didn't notice it, this article on lew rockwell's site seems to be assuming that the initial tweet was Ron's.
 
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Cos' like, it needed to be said again...

In the end of course, Ron Paul has never been about rallying people to himself. He has been about the message, and the message is about freedom. It is a logical impossibility to be simultaneously pro-freedom and pro-military. Patrick Henry, who called government soldiers "engines of despotism" knew this. Thomas Jefferson knew this. Every true friend of liberty from William Graham Sumner to Murray Rothbard knew this. And Ron Paul knows it. Some of his supporters, still stuck in the mindset of a form of Geezer Conservatism in which "freedom-lovers" bow and scrape before the US Government, denied that Ron Paul could have even agreed with the Twitter post. No such luck for them. The tradition of laissez faire is a tradition against standing armies, and wars, and deference to military "heroics." Conservatives who are troubled by this should probably be honest with themselves and find a candidate more suitable to their views. I hear Newt Gingrich is still taking donations.
 
Great post. Completely hit the nail on the head.

Jesus believed He was a sovereign human being and wouldn't kneel before Caesar. Sounds like He was an 'Anti-Goverment Extremist'. In fact, John the Bapist was, too. And most of the Apostles. They should have 'Submitted to Government'. I guess Judas was the only 'Christian'.

Oh!
Reported.
 
In my opinion, there is really no defense for the initial tweet sent out. It was in extremely poor taste given that the guy isn't even in the ground yet and has a family in mourning.

The second tweet made the same point, but was phrased in a way that someone besides true believers might actually hear what was being said.

Exactly. I can't stand Lew - he's nothing but an apologist for the worst that libertarianism has to offer. If Ron Paul needs Lew to write an 11 paragraph blasting America for not understanding Ron's message, then something is wrong with the message....not America.
 
Exactly. I can't stand Lew - he's nothing but an apologist for the worst that libertarianism has to offer. If Ron Paul needs Lew to write an 11 paragraph blasting America for not understanding Ron's message, then something is wrong with the message....not America.

America is a bloated, blasted heath of bloodshed and whoredoms. The majority of Americans call darkness light and evil good. The problem the message has is that its hard to help the willingly deaf hear or the purposely blind see. As the scriptures testify the wicked take the truth to be hard.
 
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In my opinion, there is really no defense for the initial tweet sent out. It was in extremely poor taste given that the guy isn't even in the ground yet and has a family in mourning.

The second tweet made the same point, but was phrased in a way that someone besides true believers might actually hear what was being said.

I'm sure most people find it poor taste and insensitive, but it's hard to explain away, people don't accidentally think thoughts like that.
 
Dude, the US is the 'Beast from the Earth'...the 'False Prophet'. I've been saying this for a long time. It's becoming more and more obvious.

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=us+of+america





Jesus believed He was a sovereign human being and wouldn't kneel before Caesar. Sounds like He was an 'Anti-Goverment Extremist'. In fact, John the Bapist was, too. And most of the Apostles. They should have 'Submitted to Government'. I guess Judas was the only 'Christian'.

Oh!
Reported.
 
I'm sure most people find it poor taste and insensitive, but it's hard to explain away, people don't accidentally think thoughts like that.

I don't plan to explain it away. But, as far as your comment, "people don't accidentally think thoughts like that" goes, I think you should read the sniper's book.
 
Exactly. I can't stand Lew - he's nothing but an apologist for the worst that libertarianism has to offer. If Ron Paul needs Lew to write an 11 paragraph blasting America for not understanding Ron's message, then something is wrong with the message....not America.

Yeah. Because Jesus was like totally understood by the crowds shouting "Crucify him! Crucify him! Give us Barabas!" /sarcasm

I compare this tweet to Lupe Fiasco's "rap in" protest at that D.C. Obama inauguration party. Yeah Lupe could have just his 5 minute anti-Obama rap, moved on to the next song. Instead he bumped around after the song was over for 30 minutes for the sole purpose of getting thrown off stage so that his message would make it to the top of the news cycle. The strategy worked. Ron Paul got his message to the top of the news cycle as well. And the political ramifications? Rand Paul gets to soak up even more teocon support. I'm not a Calvinist and I don't buy into their view on predestination, but I do see a point to the belief that some messages are only for those already ready to receive them.
 
Cos' like, it needed to be said again...

In the end of course, Ron Paul has never been about rallying people to himself. He has been about the message, and the message is about freedom. It is a logical impossibility to be simultaneously pro-freedom and pro-military. Patrick Henry, who called government soldiers "engines of despotism" knew this. Thomas Jefferson knew this. Every true friend of liberty from William Graham Sumner to Murray Rothbard knew this. And Ron Paul knows it. Some of his supporters, still stuck in the mindset of a form of Geezer Conservatism in which "freedom-lovers" bow and scrape before the US Government, denied that Ron Paul could have even agreed with the Twitter post. No such luck for them. The tradition of laissez faire is a tradition against standing armies, and wars, and deference to military "heroics." Conservatives who are troubled by this should probably be honest with themselves and find a candidate more suitable to their views. I hear Newt Gingrich is still taking donations.

Man, are you rep whoring again?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again
 
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