Ron Paul, Please Stop!!

[MsDoodahs]

Do you believe the MSM deliberately gave Ron Paul very little airtime during the campaign and tried to keep his message from reaching the masses?

Yes.

Airtime is not in question, he was given very little and that's documented.

Whether it was an intentional effort to silence his message or not, I like to think so but I don't think that gives the total picture.

 

[ClayTrainor]

The question to ask is this: effective to do WHAT?

Stir the emotions? Encourage those whose emotions have been stirred to put on displays like the ones above....think about Penn's description of the Code Pink bunch.

Truthers are no different.

Truthers are mucht different. Truthers get in the faces of high ranking members with hard-hitting questions. They dont just dance around shouting, or practicing "civil disobedience".

They get Loud and Vocal,

A. When challenged (Yes, they were challenged by people booing Ventura at the R4R and there is evidence of this)

B. When they organize on the street (you know, that thing called the first ammendment?)

Ive never seen a "911 Truth" organization just sit around, and pray and pretty much just embarass themselves like the "code pink" bunch. Ive been to many 911 rally's myself and there is always GREAT organization and very effective marketing. "Debunkers" can deny all they want but, the 911 Truth movement is growing pretty rapidly. Just watching the number of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth grow at ae911truth.org is evident of that.

Code Pink and Truthers are very different in both their effectiveness and tactical approach...

They are ridiculed as a result of emotional displays.

What has AJ done to provide GROUNDING IN THE FOUNDATIONAL CONCEPTS?

Not a damn thing.

He stirs the pot ... and THEN, he sends you running to holler "9/11 was an inside job" and you are made to appear like the code pinkers as Penn explains.

AJ isn't giving you an effective direction.

Speak for yourself but AJ has linked me to much evidence. I dont claim the man to be perfect or always correct but, he has introduced me to the idea of liberty better than any other "pundit" or "news host" that i can recall.

I would probably not have even been motivated enough to donate over $2g's to Ron Paul Chipins and whatnot, if it weren't for AJ. I know im not the only one who will testify to AJ's MASSIVE marketing contribution to the Ron Paul campaign.

I am also now fighting for liberty in Canada and I owe it all to AJ for making me aware of some very important issues (not even including 911)

From what I can tell, he stirs your emotions and proceeds to send you forth so that the mainstream CAN ridicule you.

Why?

"You gotta stand for something or you'll fall for ANYTHING."

If you come into the freedom movement with no understanding of the basic concepts, and you don't bother to learn those basic concepts...and you just want to holler "9/11 was an inside job" at some rallies....then I suggest your pot has been stirred, and stirred effectively.

Actually i do far more than just "hollar" 911 truth at rallies, but thanks for generalizing.

I understand the basic concepts of freedom quite well, thank you. I've read the Entire "Rudy's Reading List", I've read The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms at least 5 times, and i've read your American constitution twice! (Alex Jones Sent me a copy with a DVD i bought, another way he is simply informing the public of Ron Pauls message)

I feel quite informed of the Freedom Message

Truthers are welcome to do whatever they believe will be most effective in advancing whatever it is that they have as their goal. It is not one of my issues. The movement will continue regardless of the choices the "truthers' make, even if that choice is to stop supporting Ron Paul.

Most truthers will fight with Ron paul until Ron Paul quits fighting. Why? because ron paul understands the NWO, and his views are EXACTLy in line with 90% of Truthers. Ron Paul does not believe in the grand conspiracy but Ron Paul probably didnt even question the Gulf of Tonkin incident until it was Declassified.

Ron Paul understands how to play "the game". I imagine he suspects some type of domestic involvement in 911, but does not believe the grand conspiracy.

I'm not in the eyes of the media.

I'm not a conspiracy nut, and have never seen myself as united with those who are.

Well you dont see yourself as one... that's great for you

The rest of the world feels other wise.

Do you believe in the NAU?

if so, remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOZIGPUPQVc

It's getting harder for the MSM to play it off as a conspiracy now but, they definitely used that tactic at first.

You may not think you're in the eyes of the media but, the movement definitely is.

 

[alaric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cImDbRkEdA

Watch the above video

RP should not longer associate with this man, look at what he did?

The people who are 9/11 truthers already will look way too deeply for truth
Which is not necessarily a bad thing, but there's not need for RP to associate with them or his viewers.

But my point is that this leaves too much opportunity for the msm to riducle the good doctor.


Dear God!
I loved his interviews with him, but it needs to stop.

Ron has stated that Jones gave him media exposure when no one else did. If he can handle dickheadoreilly, i don't worry about him being on the Jones show.

 

[alaric]

Do you believe the MSM deliberately gave Ron Paul very little airtime during the campaign and tried to keep his message from reaching the masses?

is this a trick question or just sarcasm?

 

[MsDoodahs]

Truthers are mucht different. Truthers get in the faces of high ranking members with hard-hitting questions. They dont just dance around shouting, or practicing "civil disobedience". They get Loud and Vocal

Which gets them marginalized and ridiculed.

Do you think that being so loud and vocal helps your cause...or the state's?

A. When challenged (Yes, they were challenged by people booing Ventura at the R4R and there is evidence of this)

B. When they organize on the street (you know, that thing called the first ammendment?)

and challenge anyone with opposing views to debate. Ive never seen a "911 Truth" organization just sit around, and pray and pretty much just embarass themselves like the "code pink" bunch. Ive been to many 911 rally's myself and there is always GREAT organization and very effective marketing. "Debunkers" can deny all they want but, the 911 Truth movement is growing pretty rapidly. Just watching the number of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth grow at ae911truth.org is evident of that.

Code Pink and Truthers are very different in both their effectiveness and tactical approach...

If the goal of the truthers is to get a second investigation, then how exactly have they been more effective than the Pinkers? Is there a second investigation going on or planned?

The tactical approach is different. You get in people's faces and holler. Pinkers get in people's faces and pray. Still takes both groups to the same outcome: you're marginalized.

Speak for yourself but AJ has linked me to much evidence. I dont claim the man to be perfect or always correct but, he has introduced me to the idea of liberty better than any other "pundit" or "news host" that i can recall.

I would probably not have even been motivated enough to donate over $2g's to Ron Paul Chipins and whatnot, if it weren't for AJ. I know im not the only one who will testify to AJ's MASSIVE marketing contribution to the Ron Paul campaign.

I am also now fighting for liberty in Canada and I owe it all to AJ for making me aware of some very important issues (not even including 911) ]

Whatever got you turned onto liberty is great. Not all truthers are turned on to liberty.

Actually i do far more than just "hollar" 911 truth at rallies, but thanks for generalizing.

I understand the basic concepts of freedom quite well, thank you. I've read the Entire "Rudy's Reading List", I've read The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms at least 5 times, and i've read your American constitution twice! (Alex Jones Sent me a copy with a DVD i bought, another way he is simply informing the public of Ron Pauls message)

I feel quite informed of the Freedom Message

If only all truthers were as tuned in to the message as yourself.

Most truthers will fight with Ron paul until Ron Paul quits fighting. Why? because ron paul understands the NWO, and his views are EXACTLy in line with 90% of Truthers.

Thanks for generalizing.

Ron Paul does not believe in the grand conspiracy but Ron Paul probably didnt even question the Gulf of Tonkin incident until it was Declassified.

I have not asked Dr. Paul about this but I think it would be a wonderful discussion.

Ron Paul understands how to play "the game". I imagine he suspects some type of domestic involvement in 911, but does not believe the grand conspiracy.

Ron has stated in plain english numerous times what he believes. He does not believe there was domestic INVOLVEMENT in 9/11. You're either not as well read as you claim to be (else you'd know this) or you're being less than honest, because you know Ron does not believe there was domestic INVOLVEMENT yet persist in claiming that you think if he would just be really REALLY honest, he'd agree with your position.

He does not.

Well you dont see yourself as one... that's great for you

The rest of the world feels other wise.

First, thanks again for generalizing.

So long as those close to me, where I may have some influence in spreading the freedom message, do not see me as a conspiracy nut, that's all that matters.

Do you believe in the NAU?

if so, remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOZIGPUPQVc
It's getting harder for the MSM to play it off as a conspiracy now but, they definitely used that tactic at first.

What effected that shift in how the MSM plays it off?

You may not think you're in the eyes of the media but, the movement definitely is.

What media? The mainstream pretty well ignores the freedom movement. I try to conduct myself in a fashion that prevents me from being labeled a "conspiracy nut" by those around me.

 

[StilesBC]

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who advocates openly questioning government and offers less government as the solution to our problems is a member of this movement. As long as Jones is excersizing his rights, I am a supporter of his. Do I agree with his grand conspiracy claims? No. But I don't have to believe everything he does in order to support him.

Let the man pursue liberty in his own way. As long as he does nothing that jeopardizes the rights of anyone else, he cannot be a liability. Same goes for Ventura. I'm agnostic and "pro choice", but I can still support Chuck Baldwin.

 

[fatjohn]

@user conza

meh, the world's a crowded place.

Mmmh, i suspect you to be a tool in David Rockefeller's queste to population control.

 

[constituent]

Mmmh, i suspect you to be a tool in David Rockefeller's queste to population control.

lol.

 

[lucius]

...OTOH...AJ may be VERY bright. This is my view personally. AJ appears to be a pot stirrer to me. I don't listen to him. I have never been a fan, and after I learned of his sneaky vile turning on that Waco family...well...that smells of agent provacateur or whatever the term is. Someone the government uses to spread disinfo...

+1

Individuals may fail you, ideas can be sterling. Get beyond him (not MsDoodahs specifically).

"Man is an imitative animal. This quality is the germ of all education in him. From his cradle to his grave he is learning to do what he sees others do."~THOMAS JEFFERSON, Notes on Virginia

 

[MelissaCato]

... it's good to know we're still home of the brave.

.. if your not riding the train.. get outta da way !!!

 

[ruggedindividualist]

Ron Paul should talk to whoever he wants to talk to, why not?? Anyone who won't vote for him because some truther like him is a pea brain anyway and is not likely to have voted for him to begin with.

 

[SeanEdwards]

AJ is a salesman of fear. He is a bigger fearmonger than Dick Cheney. He's got his niche market of scared little people lapping up his "product", and he's getting over.

Just another example of why Paul was never a serious candidate for president. If he or his staff had ever imagined winning the nomination was even remotely possible, they wouldn't have gotten within bullhorn shouting distance of AJ. AJ taints everything he touches. He is a sensationalist lying circus tent hawker. He is like a Geraldo on LSD. Lobster boy should do interviews on AJ's show, not people serious about winning elected office.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Tell us what you REALLY think, Sean. lol

 

[nbhadja]

oh give me a break.. i am so sick of you timid effeminate girlie boys whining about anyone that does something decent for this country. thats why people like sarah palin.. she's got juevos.

And I'm sick of people who don't know shit about a politician and go crazy over them (Palin).

 

[SeanEdwards]

And I'm sick of people who don't know shit about a politician and go crazy over them (Palin).

Palin rocks. I just wish that my own education could have been based on biblical "truth" and creationism as she advocates. I think it would have been a lot easier to get good grades. So much less to memorize. Just nod your head and baaa like the other sheople and it's all good.

Professor:

"Sean, can you explain hydrogen bonding?"

Sean:

"Hydrogen bonds because Jesus wants it that way, bitch."

 

[Jamsie 567]

I love the ending HAHA.

AJ has balls and has chosen his battle. I choose my battles as well and I respect what he does. It's important we don't become complacent we need to rise up and take back what is ours.