JAY LENO: All right. My first guest, running for President of the United States among the Republicans,
he's considered a long-shot maverick, but he's the number one GOP fundraiser right now, and he's moved up
to number three in many of the latest polls. And don't forget, Huckabee was unknown. Remember he came here the night before Iowa? Won the next day. The power of this show, ladies and gentlemen. Please welcome Ron Paul.
(Applause.)
Hey, thanks for coming on such short notice.
RON PAUL: Thank you. Nice to be here.
JAY LENO: Now, I got to ask you. This seemed really
unfair to me. You were excluded from the debate last
night, and I'm trying to figure out why FOX News chose
not to put you on.
RON PAUL: You know, we tried to find that out. That
was a natural tendency of ours, to try to figure this
out. But they didn't return our call.
JAY LENO: I mean, did you show up and they go, "No,
no"?
RON PAUL: No, it didn't go that far. You know, I
realized that they really had some property rights
ability there, and I wasn't going to crash the party.
But I've been trying to figure out what to do. And I
thought, "Well, maybe I ought to sue them." And then
I thought, "What am I going to sue them on?" I've
decided what to sue them over, and that is for fraud,
because of this fair and balanced idea, you know.
So --
(Applause.)
-- I just --
JAY LENO: Let me ask you. Here's something
interesting. I found out about this sort of on my
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own. We went, "Hey, where's Ron Paul?" And then we
made some phone calls. You weren't -- I saw you
interviewed with Wolf Blitzer on CNN. It wasn't
mentioned. I don't think -- I don't want to be
unfair. I didn't see it on MSNBC or any of the other
cable channels. It seems like a big story: One of
the major candidates or certainly major in terms of --
you have as much prestige as anybody else in
fundraising -- is left out. Why was this not a story?
RON PAUL: You know, I don't know. I can speculate.
If I qualified, as you point out, that I had the
qualification, it must be they didn't want to hear the
message. Maybe they're intimidated. Maybe they're
frightened. Maybe they don't want to hear the truth.
Who knows? We'll have to figure that out.
JAY LENO: Okay. I mean, what do you do? Do you call
FOX News at this point and go, "I want to know why I
was excluded"?
RON PAUL: Yeah.
JAY LENO: You seem like a gentleman. You don't seem
like that type. But it seems like you should be
kicking somebody's ass right now.
(Laughter.)
(Applause.)
I mean, you're being extremely polite for something I
think you got screwed over, quite -- you know, I mean, I
might not necessarily agree with you, but I think, as an
American, we like to see everybody get an equal shot,
especially someone who deserves an equal shot. And it
seems like --
RON PAUL: You know --
(Applause.)
-- the American people believe that way too. And I think
you've tapped into the sentiment of what America thinks.
But you know, even the Republican party in New Hampshire
came to bat. They withdrew support for the parties --
for that debate, so we give them credit. But I think
there are others in the Republican party that might just
not as well hear my comments because, you know, I'm a
strict Constitutionalist, and I believe that our platform
should have meaning, that if I vote that way or support
that position, it contradicts what we're doing, you know,
is sort of like waving a flag, and they don't like that.
I think that's part of it. And FOX, I think, is tied
pretty close to some of the national policy issues. And
I think --
JAY LENO: But you're a Republican.
RON PAUL: Yeah, but they don't -- they're not.
(Laughter.)
That's the problem.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Okay.
RON PAUL: See, if I follow the platform and they
don't and then I get on the stage with all the others
who are following -- you know, doing that and then I'm
saying, "Hey, I actually believe in the Constitution.
I believe what we're supposed to be doing, and I
believe my promises," and they're not doing it, then
that's pointing this out to them. And I think there's
a little bit of embarrassment there.
And I think the war has a lot to do with the issue
too, because I strongly opposed the war before we went
in there, and I think there are some who think it's
very important that we be over there. There's some
who actually think we should be there for a hundred
years. I don't think that's the right thing to do.
JAY LENO: Okay. Now, everybody seems to be going
after Romney. Nobody seems to like Romney these days
what's the problem with him?
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RON PAUL: I guess they figured he was the
frontrunner, but he's coming down now. But you know,
one thing I'm a little bit afraid of is that they
might be doing that for religious reasons, and I don't
like that. I disagree with Romney on some of the
issues, and he's gone after me on the stage, but that
shouldn't be the reason that he doesn't do well.
JAY LENO: Do you think that's the reason?
RON PAUL: I think subtly there is a little bit of
that. And I don't think that's right. But yeah, they
were after him. But I think he's invited some of it
too, some of the flip-flopping. You know, he did
something when he was in Massachusetts, and now the
positions -- and now --
JAY LENO: Yeah. See, I grew up in Massachusetts.
Seems to be a totally different guy than what --
Massachusetts, he and Ted Kennedy were fighting for
the most liberal guy, it seemed.
RON PAUL: Yeah. And then when he was running for the
Senate, he said some things that he doesn't say
anymore.
JAY LENO: Right.
RON PAUL: And the politicians, some of them -- I
guess you've noticed over the years, sometimes they'll
say one thing to one crowd and something to another
crowd. I think that's something that nobody's ever
accused me of doing. I say the same thing, no matter
which ear it is and which crowd it is.
JAY LENO: And you're tied with Giuliani in
New Hampshire. Is that about right? You're --
RON PAUL: That's right, essentially tied.
JAY LENO: You're in the same place.
RON PAUL: Of course, you know, he had 4 percent in
Iowa, and I had 10. And that didn't give me
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qualification.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: I find this fascinating. I mean, I know
Mitt Romney spends his own money. He's got quite a
personal fortune.
RON PAUL: Yeah. He has more than I do.
JAY LENO: But you have raised more money from
outside, you know --
RON PAUL: Yeah, I think we raised the most of anybody
in the fourth quarter. Of course, they haven't
released all their numbers yet, which means they're
not competing. But we raised almost $20 million. And
I say "we." It really is "we" because, you know, the
grass roots do it, these meet-up groups who we have,
like 1400 meet-up groups around the country.
(Applause.)
And they have fun doing this. They have a day, and they
say, "Let's all send Ron Paul some money on this day."
And they go and do it, and they break all kinds of
records. Pretty amazing
JAY LENO: Let's take a break. When we come back, I
want to ask you two things. I want you to think about
this. Don't tell me now. When we come back, I want
to find out -- let's say you get the nomination.
Which of that field would you pick as your running
mate? Don't tell me now.
RON PAUL: OK. I'll have to think hard about that
one.
JAY LENO: What do you think of the Democratic
candidates?
More with Ron Paul after this.