Ron Paul on KTNV: "We're afraid to sneeze or we're gonna warm up the globe."

This is one of the few points I disagree with Ron Paul on.

Ron Paul is not a scientist. His degrees are not in atmospheric physics, cryospherics, oceanic physics, climatology, or any of the other branches of science related to weather and climate.

As such, he is of course entitled to his opinion. However, I happen to work with the models and the simulations that are being used in effort to predict exactly what impacts there will be from a changing climate.

Derisively dismissing climate change is no different than those dismissing the fiscal crisis that is facing this country. The crisis that David Walker (Comptroller of the GAO) states is a serious issue, but we have people who are ignorant or simply don't want to believe it's there. Despite glaring evidence that a financial crisis is coming, nobody seems to want to acknowledge that it even exists except for "fringe" people such as Ron Paul.

This is very similar to climate change. The data is there. The models are available to public. You can download them from NASA if you want to. Yet in spite of the volumes of data supporting the fact that the climate is indeed changing, despite the thousands of scientist worldwide who agree, people either ignore it or don't want to admit it. What is causing it doesn't matter at this point. What matters is how we are going to deal with it.

I agree that there have been way to many alarmists about climate change. It will not end the world. But it will change it, and we have to be ready for it.

That is not to say that it is the federal government's responsibility to handle this. My point is that dismissing something out of hand simply because you don't know about it is as bad as those who dismiss Ron Paul as a loon simply because they don't know about him (or worse, only know what they've been told by FOX).

~X~
 
to be fair, he didn't "derisively dismiss" climate change. he just simply said that there are reputable people on both sides of the argument. whether or not he's right about that is another story...
 
This is one of the few points I disagree with Ron Paul on.

Ron Paul is not a scientist. His degrees are not in atmospheric physics, cryospherics, oceanic physics, climatology, or any of the other branches of science related to weather and climate.

As such, he is of course entitled to his opinion. However, I happen to work with the models and the simulations that are being used in effort to predict exactly what impacts there will be from a changing climate.

Derisively dismissing climate change is no different than those dismissing the fiscal crisis that is facing this country. The crisis that David Walker (Comptroller of the GAO) states is a serious issue, but we have people who are ignorant or simply don't want to believe it's there. Despite glaring evidence that a financial crisis is coming, nobody seems to want to acknowledge that it even exists except for "fringe" people such as Ron Paul.

This is very similar to climate change. The data is there. The models are available to public. You can download them from NASA if you want to. Yet in spite of the volumes of data supporting the fact that the climate is indeed changing, despite the thousands of scientist worldwide who agree, people either ignore it or don't want to admit it. What is causing it doesn't matter at this point. What matters is how we are going to deal with it.

I agree that there have been way to many alarmists about climate change. It will not end the world. But it will change it, and we have to be ready for it.

That is not to say that it is the federal government's responsibility to handle this. My point is that dismissing something out of hand simply because you don't know about it is as bad as those who dismiss Ron Paul as a loon simply because they don't know about him (or worse, only know what they've been told by FOX).

~X~


Are you ready for the global carbon tax?
I'm not. No way we should trust that the government can solve climate change.
If it is indeed true, let's let the free market take care of it.

Anyway there are plenty of facts supporting man made global warming is a farce. Start with the fact that CO2 increases throughout history occurred AFTER temperature increases, not before like Al Gore says. Then, let's look at what is really warming and what isn't. While the focus has been on the glaciers melting in the Arctic, 70% of Antarctica is actually COOLING right now.

We do NOT have all the facts with this so once again, Ron Paul is right.
 
Yes, and the ice caps of Mars and other outer planets are melting too.

Science agrees, there is global warming and that is because the Sun - Sol is getting hotter.
 
We have been infiltrated by hacks and MSM shills, the hacks come from within the establishment and are here trying to cause feelings of dispair. Don't even answer those assholes, IGNORE THEM!!!!!
 
This is one of the few points I disagree with Ron Paul on.

What is causing it doesn't matter at this point. What matters is how we are going to deal with it
~X~

The cause *does* matter. If it is not a man-made cause, then the UN carbon tax is a sham and "they" are looking for more reasons to tax. We can prepare to adapt to the climate change, but the belief that the Government has our best interest in mind with their environmentally-friendly policies is rather naive.
 
ice age

in the 1970s and 80s you were considered an absolute fool if you didn't believe that an ice age was coming, now you are considered an absolute fool if you don't believe in global warming. yes, there is the probably global warming on earth and mars - how much of it is from man is to be determined.

what i am sure of is this, "fact" is being manipulated by politicians for their own means and there are many companies willing to play the game for huge profits. hillary wants to pull the country out of recession by "green collar" jobs.

ron is not a scientist but he has been around long enough to see these bandwagons come and go.


This is one of the few points I disagree with Ron Paul on.

Ron Paul is not a scientist. His degrees are not in atmospheric physics, cryospherics, oceanic physics, climatology, or any of the other branches of science related to weather and climate.

As such, he is of course entitled to his opinion. However, I happen to work with the models and the simulations that are being used in effort to predict exactly what impacts there will be from a changing climate.

Derisively dismissing climate change is no different than those dismissing the fiscal crisis that is facing this country. The crisis that David Walker (Comptroller of the GAO) states is a serious issue, but we have people who are ignorant or simply don't want to believe it's there. Despite glaring evidence that a financial crisis is coming, nobody seems to want to acknowledge that it even exists except for "fringe" people such as Ron Paul.

This is very similar to climate change. The data is there. The models are available to public. You can download them from NASA if you want to. Yet in spite of the volumes of data supporting the fact that the climate is indeed changing, despite the thousands of scientist worldwide who agree, people either ignore it or don't want to admit it. What is causing it doesn't matter at this point. What matters is how we are going to deal with it.

I agree that there have been way to many alarmists about climate change. It will not end the world. But it will change it, and we have to be ready for it.

That is not to say that it is the federal government's responsibility to handle this. My point is that dismissing something out of hand simply because you don't know about it is as bad as those who dismiss Ron Paul as a loon simply because they don't know about him (or worse, only know what they've been told by FOX).

~X~
 
One thing I think Ron Paul needs to do is say "men and women" when talking about our soldiers overseas. I have seen him say "our men overseas" many times and it may be hurting our appeal to women voters. I don't meant to be PC, but I think its important to include the women who have been injured or killed in this occupation as well. He should have also talked about yucca Mountain as the polls in NV show this to be the most important issue in NV. But overall it was an excellent interview.
 
This is a bit older now, 2006, from the Canadian Free Press. But it is an article feel hits the subject very well. I personally don't believe in global warming, and I am definitely not a conspiracy theorist on most levels, although some things absolutely should be criticized and investigated.

When scientists that are SPECIALIZED in what they and are not funded by any special interest groups do come out and contradict so many things that people who are not specialized say, I will tend to believe the people who dedicate their time and lives to their field.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm
 
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It's a pretty good point that some people are taking the Global Warming thing too far. We can reduce our carbon output, but how many of us are gonna stop breathing for the sake of reducing carbon emissions?
 
^You're on the right track.

If we are to survive on this planet beyond the 21st century, there is little question that humans have to stop increasing in numbers.
 
Global warming is a joke. It's going to usher in another multi-billion dollar complex. The Global Warming Complex.
 
We have to understand the "terminology". "Global Warming" and "Climate Change" mean two different things even though one includes the other.

Climate change is just that, a change in the climate but when studied in depth it might be a natural occurance, it might be a natural occurance that is increased a bit by the help of man or it might be completely driven by CO2 emissions from man.

Global Warming is a term that was created for fear and manipulation. It's nothing more than a description... The warming of the Globe. However, when used in negative and frightening terms and twisted into end of the world scenarios it becomes this epic crisis.

Al Gore... Mr "Inconvenient Truth" himself is a member of the CFR. If enough people are afraid of the "warming planet" and we scare them into submission they will hand over the power to the government allowing them to raise gas prices, and create Carbon Taxes/credits.

You know what a Carbon Credit is? It's a form of currency that can be traded. It's a way of making money out of nothing. It's nothing more than a competing fiat currency and it's been designed, predicted and executed VERY well over the last decade.

I believe the Climate is Changing but I don't believe in GLOBAL WARMING as the MSM would have me believe it. Glaciers Melt, sometimes completely, and desserts get hot, sometimes really hot... It happens. Glaciers come and go as they have been doing so for the last several million years!
 
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