Ron Paul on Glenn Beck!

Thumbs Up from Me!
Thanks to Mr. Beck for a very fair hour of airtime.

All media should be this reasonable.

PatriotG
 
The entire purpose of this interview

I suspect that Glenn Beck has wanted to get this interview for a while. He was looking for a way to save face, after saying some of the things he has said about Ron and his supporters. But I think he is also trying to reposition so he can throw his support behind the only candidate who agrees with many of the points he makes in his book. (Or so I've heard!)

He has some bombastic self absorbed qualities and has trouble saying sorry, but then again most public personalities do (who am I kidding, most human beings actually.) If you were in his shoes, and wanted to start supporting Ron Paul late in the game and enter a movement where you could really be a part of something great, and you had said the things he's said, wouldn't it simply be easier to exaggerate the threats, claim he has been trying and trying to get an interview, and then hope the good doctor overlooks his previous tardiness and ignorance. He has been a lowly hanger on at the Neo-Con Orgy; he has been an increasingly marginalized Mini-Me to the great Rushbo. As the Neo-Con party begins to break up he wants out, and finally this is a place he could feel welcome. He just wants a way to do it while saving face. Let him, what have we got to lose. The greatest statesman in a century just graciously allowed him to apologize as much as he is able. Ron Paul required no groveling, he allowed insulting inferences to be made, deftly turned them aside but saw through to the motive. Glenn Beck will be an amazing addition to our movement first and foremost because he was not ridiculed and beaten down by our great leader and my personal hero. Lets take his example to heart and not assume any insidious motive until there is actual evidence. Do we have a great deal to lose by taking the higher ground here? Ron Paul knows human nature, and he knows his game. Trust him.
 
Cardinal Red said:
Wearing truther gear in a RP rally is like wearing Pro Iraq-War gear in an RP rally-- whatever you think about those issues, it misrepresents what the campaign is about.
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Ok, and in the same vein, all you pro-lifers should not bring your promotional materials, or wear t-shirts, or display pictures of fetuses, at RP rallies. Yes, Ron Paul himself is pro-life, but he wants to make it a state-by-state decision on how abortion should be handled. Wearing pro-life clothing or carrying pro-life signs will give the average person the idea that Ron Paul would make abortion illegal on a federal level, and that's not how it would work under his presidency at all. And I know that this goes on, I've seen pro-life signs carried in tandem with RP signs. The Guilliani appearance in GA that got flooded by RP supporters is one example where the pro-life movement started posting their positions at the gathering.
 
icon57 said:
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0712/18/gb.01.html
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Dr. Paul's ending speech:

PAUL: No, I think we`ve covered everything pretty well. I can just summarize pretty much what we`ve been talking about and why people join us.

And I do talk a lot about the Constitution. And to me, the Constitution is very libertarian. So if you`re a constitutionalist, you`re really a libertarian, which means that you want a lot less government. The Constitution was meant to restrain the government and not restrain the people.

I make a very important point that freedom is a unit. But about 100 years ago or so, for some reason, our country divided into two pieces -- personal liberty and economic liberty. And it should be all one thing.

If you have a right to life and a right to your liberty, you can -- you have a right to lead your lifestyle as you choose. But you also have a right to the fruits of your labor, and that`s why I`m so opposed to the income tax. You should have control of your economic life as well.

But, the big problem is, is that when you give that much freedom to individuals, they have to assume responsibility. And you even indicated before that if you`re not a moral society and you don`t assume this responsibility, it causes problems.

And Franklin, Benjamin Franklin, warned us about that. We have to assume responsibility for ourselves. But, quite frankly, I`ve been talking to a lot of young people, and I believe that they are ready and welcome -- welcoming this message because they`re sick and tired of what they`re getting.

They`re getting a huge debt, a Social Security system that doesn`t work, a flawed foreign policy, and this endless debt. And I think that this country is really ready for some significant change.

I think the large majority of the American people are ready for changes, and that the -- the base of the Republican Party and the base of the Democratic Party is pretty small compared to the people who are disgruntled.
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After having thought about this interview for a while...

I have not been a fan of Glenn Beck because his claimed "Libertarianism" is not consistent with his preemptive war promoting over the last 6 years. Libertarianism and preemptive war-promoting are like oil and water that just do not mix. You can not be pro-war and believe in liberty.

Having taken a step back and trying to give Beck the benefit of the doubt, and thinking about this interview, I guess the interview was more fair than I expected it to e. But, I really had a distaste for what tasted like a smear attempt by association, because the doctor's views are unassailable. I guess it could have been worse, like O'Reilly's interview...
 
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Stallheim said:
I suspect that Glenn Beck has wanted to get this interview for a while. He was looking for a way to save face, after saying some of the things he has said about Ron and his supporters. But I think he is also trying to reposition so he can throw his support behind the only candidate who agrees with many of the points he makes in his book. (Or so I've heard!)

He has some bombastic self absorbed qualities and has trouble saying sorry, but then again most public personalities do (who am I kidding, most human beings actually.) If you were in his shoes, and wanted to start supporting Ron Paul late in the game and enter a movement where you could really be a part of something great, and you had said the things he's said, wouldn't it simply be easier to exaggerate the threats, claim he has been trying and trying to get an interview, and then hope the good doctor overlooks his previous tardiness and ignorance. He has been a lowly hanger on at the Neo-Con Orgy; he has been an increasingly marginalized Mini-Me to the great Rushbo. As the Neo-Con party begins to break up he wants out, and finally this is a place he could feel welcome. He just wants a way to do it while saving face. Let him, what have we got to lose. The greatest statesman in a century just graciously allowed him to apologize as much as he is able. Ron Paul required no groveling, he allowed insulting inferences to be made, deftly turned them aside but saw through to the motive. Glenn Beck will be an amazing addition to our movement first and foremost because he was not ridiculed and beaten down by our great leader and my personal hero. Lets take his example to heart and not assume any insidious motive until there is actual evidence. Do we have a great deal to lose by taking the higher ground here? Ron Paul knows human nature, and he knows his game. Trust him.
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i think you made some good observations. i'd like to think glenn is positioning himself to come under the ron paul tent, but i'm not so sure, yet.
 
slantedview said:
i think you made some good observations. i'd like to think glenn is positioning himself to come under the ron paul tent, but i'm not so sure, yet.
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Even if Glenn Beck were to fake his support for Ron Paul's views (and I don't think he is faking it)....it is a brilliant strategy to tap into our market. Is there any show on TV expressing Ron Paul's views? Nope. And if there was? Instant huge viewership.

Well done Beck. You may have just tapped into a new huge viewing audience.
 
At least he didn't ask the same darn question CNN and Fox ask every time; regarding a third party run. Wow that question gets exceptionally old and it is dismissive.
 
Having trouble with cnn in Philadelphia

Has anyone else been having trouble with the broadcasting of the Philadelphia area CNN Headline News broadcasts of this? It was scheduled for 3 times this evening, at 7pm, 9pm and 11pm.

I tried watching the first two so far and neither was complete. The final return during the first run after the last commercial break never happened.

During the 9pm showing there was a huge pause for almost 10 min before the half hour mark and a CN8 program which was an interview (and the interviewer was saying something about "in this hour we will be talking about...) started playing.

Finally at the end of the program, Glenn said he would come back and I was looking forward to seeing the conclusion this time around, but an infomercial about a bed and breakfast came on instead and played until 10, the conclusion never came.

I will try again for the final airing but this is getting frustrating. Has anyone else had problems like this?
 
Why would comcast run ridiculous long cn8 infomercials on the re-run at 9pm in Philly? Two entire segments weren't shown here in Philly because of a long informercial about the Wistar Institute and something ridiculous about making guests feel comfortable in your home.
 
Hi Everyone,
This is my 1st time posting on here, though I've been closely following this site for months now while being very involved in the online campaign.

Here's my 2 cents worth on the interview tonight:

I simply think Ron Paul did EXCELLENT, as usual. He fired off very well articulated and highly educated answers for several minutes, unscripted, ...as Beck watches trying to pick up his lip.
Who gives a crap what Glen Beck thinks or did. ?
I mean seriously, did anyone catch the awkward sarcastic homosexual comment Beck made at Dr. Paul? What the hell is wrong with that guy? He's a freakin idiot, that's what's wrong!

I personally thought it was an interesting tactic, in poor taste, to Force Dr. Paul to answer about where he stood compared to the 9/11 Truth movement. Pay attention to these interviews, and especially how they are conducted. Do not blink an eye because they are masters of illusion, and will purposefully try to ostracize specific groups of freedom fighters, by talking about "how crazy this group is, or that group", and then forcing Dr. Paul to "Stand By" or "Deny" .... that's why Dr. Paul said at the end, "I shouldn't even have to answer these questions". It wasn't because Dr. Paul thinks he's too good for specific small groups. It's because he knows what they're trying to imply. He constantly points out that the real issue(s) in America is not it's so called "enemies" or even small groups of its own citizens, but of the Big Government that is purposefully side tracking Americans from what they are doing to us around the world, and here at home.

Don't be fooled by what you see or hear (Corporations & Government own: TV, Radio, Newspaper). The internet is the greatest invention humans ever created to spread history and truth. Utilize it. Spread the REAL news.

In Peace & Truth,
~ Mike :)
 
Stallheim said:
Has anyone else been having trouble with the broadcasting of the Philadelphia area CNN Headline News broadcasts of this? It was scheduled for 3 times this evening, at 7pm, 9pm and 11pm.

I tried watching the first two so far and neither was complete. The final return during the first run after the last commercial break never happened.

During the 9pm showing there was a huge pause for almost 10 min before the half hour mark and a CN8 program which was an interview (and the interviewer was saying something about "in this hour we will be talking about...) started playing.

Finally at the end of the program, Glenn said he would come back and I was looking forward to seeing the conclusion this time around, but an infomercial about a bed and breakfast came on instead and played until 10, the conclusion never came.

I will try again for the final airing but this is getting frustrating. Has anyone else had problems like this?
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Funny, I guess we got the same thing.

The two parts that were missing were these (from the transcript) -

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PAUL: We`ve spent too much. We tax too much. We borrow too much, and we print too much. When a country spends way beyond its means, eventually it will destroy the currency, and we`re in the midst of a currency crisis.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECK: We`re with presidential candidate Ron Paul.

And, boy, there`s something that nobody else says. Nobody on Wall Street will say that. And it only makes common sense that we are destroying our own currency.

One of the things that I think attracts me to libertarians is the idea of getting back to the gold standard and abolishing the IRS. Is it true -- I believe I have read that you say if you don`t pay your taxes, you are in the category of civil disobedience akin with Gandhi and Martin Luther King.

PAUL: Well, I -- I think it`s practicing the same principle, yes, because the income tax, the way it`s collected is unconstitutional. And if you believe that, and you practice civil disobedience, you to suffer the consequences.

I chose to try to change the law. I haven`t chosen that method.

But people who sincerely believe that it`s unconstitutional to be guilty until you prove yourself innocent and you be your own -- you have to testify against yourself, I think they have a legitimate cause. And I think it`s a libertarian principle to practice civil disobedience. It`s non-violent.

BECK: How do you...

PAUL: So I think it`s a good way of doing it.

BECK: How do you change the tax code? I mean, we`ve been saying -- every American knows this doesn`t work. I don`t need a book this big to show me how to pay my taxes.

When you`ve got former communist countries going to a flat tax and they`re getting more money, how are you going to change this? How are you going to abolish the IRS or go to a flat tax? Or what is your proposal?

PAUL: Well, mine is to get rid of the IRS but not replace it with anything by cutting a lot of spending. Because we lived without an income tax before 1913. So I`m not interested in the flat tax or the -- or the sales tax. You know? Although anything would -- anything would be better.

BECK: Yes. Just what you`re saying, I mean, you`re speaking -- I mean, you know, if we weren`t both men, you know, I might have to French kiss you on the whole abolishing the IRS thing. You had me at hello. You did. No, you did.

So -- so you want to replace it with -- with a -- with some sort of a sales tax?

PAUL: No, nothing.

BECK: Nothing. How...

PAUL: I want to replace it with freedom. I want to replace it with freedom and less spending.

BECK: OK. But wait a minute. Hang on just a second.

PAUL: But you`re right. Yes, OK.

BECK: I mean, I love you. Don`t get me wrong. How do we pay for the things we do have to pay for?

PAUL: Well, you know, if you didn`t have the income tax right now, you`d have the same amount of revenue as you had 10 years ago. So that`s not all that bad. And we didn`t have an income tax before 1913. They used -- they used tariffs and they used user fee types and different things like that.

BECK: But wouldn`t you create the same...

PAUL: The problem is spending.

BECK: Oh, I agree with you. But wouldn`t you create the same kind of situation if you had user fees? Because then you`d have special interests that were just saying, no, this one should be exempt and this one shouldn`t.

PAUL: Well, I guess so. But anything would be better than the income tax. But, you know, if you -- if we do have a user fee, which we abuse, you have a user fee by paying a national gasoline tax. And that`s supposed to take care of our highways, but they abuse that system, too.

BECK: Yes, yes.

PAUL: They don`t spend it on the highways, and they use it for political boondoggles is what happens.

BECK: Back in a minute with Dr. Paul`s controversial views on foreign policy, the CIA, FBI, the Patriot Act and the war on drugs. He`ll get more than 30 seconds to explain it all. Stick around.


and the finale -


BECK: We are back with presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Dr. Paul, many of your supporters feel that the mainstream media is not fair to you. They don`t either let you talk about the issues that you feel are most important, or worse, they distort your words. That`s why I`ve agreed to let this final segment be up to you.

First of all, fair interview with you tonight, sir?

PAUL: Yes, very much so. And I got a much better interview than I`ve gotten from some other interviewers on other stations. So I am pleased with that. You allowed me to answer the questions.

BECK: OK.

I want to give you the final -- the final word here. You`ve got about two minutes.

Is there anything that we didn`t cover that you think is important that you -- that you feel is essential or something you want to go back and correct?

PAUL: No, I think we`ve covered everything pretty well. I can just summarize pretty much what we`ve been talking about and why people join us.

And I do talk a lot about the Constitution. And to me, the Constitution is very libertarian. So if you`re a constitutionalist, you`re really a libertarian, which means that you want a lot less government. The Constitution was meant to restrain the government and not restrain the people.

I make a very important point that freedom is a unit. But about 100 years ago or so, for some reason, our country divided into two pieces -- personal liberty and economic liberty. And it should be all one thing.

If you have a right to life and a right to your liberty, you can -- you have a right to lead your lifestyle as you choose. But you also have a right to the fruits of your labor, and that`s why I`m so opposed to the income tax. You should have control of your economic life as well.

But, the big problem is, is that when you give that much freedom to individuals, they have to assume responsibility. And you even indicated before that if you`re not a moral society and you don`t assume this responsibility, it causes problems.

And Franklin, Benjamin Franklin, warned us about that. We have to assume responsibility for ourselves. But, quite frankly, I`ve been talking to a lot of young people, and I believe that they are ready and welcome -- welcoming this message because they`re sick and tired of what they`re getting.

They`re getting a huge debt, a Social Security system that doesn`t work, a flawed foreign policy, and this endless debt. And I think that this country is really ready for some significant change.

I think the large majority of the American people are ready for changes, and that the -- the base of the Republican Party and the base of the Democratic Party is pretty small compared to the people who are disgruntled.

BECK: Dr. Paul, thank you very much.

America, goodnight.

PAUL: Thank you.

Might have been more, I started watching at about quarter after, but thought it was odd that these long infomercials were interrupting the show.

What can you expect from comcast...it's craptastic!
 
Crickett said:
I think this was a terrific interview, as they go. Beck brought up some controversial subjects, as I guess I,too, would be a bit freaked out had someone threatened my life, but I loved Ron's answer. I think in a way he was allaying Beck's fears, when he spoke about his belief in non -violence. The truthers that also love RP were addressed..yes, it may have been a waste of time to some, but MANY diverse groups are with RP, and I am glad Beck brought some of this into the open. I loved the interview..it was not the least bit "mindless", and I think our candadate has BIG ONES to go on this show! As it turns out, he need not to have worried a bit. KUDOS to CNN and Glenn Beck!
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Pretty much just what I was thinking. I thought it was a GREAT interview and it will make a lot of people take Dr Paul more seriously.
 
QUOTE=amistybleu;659711]I think Glenn is a closet Paulite and really would french kiss him given the chance. :eek: Great Interview[/QUOTE]
the visual is quite disturbing..... MUST........ SCRUB.......BRAIN!!!:eek:
 
shadowhooch said:
Even if Glenn Beck were to fake his support for Ron Paul's views (and I don't think he is faking it)....it is a brilliant strategy to tap into our market. Is there any show on TV expressing Ron Paul's views? Nope. And if there was? Instant huge viewership.

Well done Beck. You may have just tapped into a new huge viewing audience.
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Tucker as of last night practically gushed love for Dr. Paul, said he'd vote for him too! shock!
So, I do think I'll scope out Tucker some more.
 
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