Ron Paul Odds for 2012: 50/1

I am convinced that if we stop talking about silly crap and get serious, we can run a 4 year campaign and win. Ron Paul and someone very well liked as his VP. Peter Schiff perhaps, Steve Forbes maybe.

I agree...which is why he should announce now, so we can start telling everyone about it NOW. And, forget Steve Forbes. If I recall correctly, he was originally a fan of some of the bailouts.

And at RevolutionSD, I suppose you want to torch the Constitution then? Government has its proper role.
 
we need to take over control of the GOP. next time there won't be guys like Sal from Michigan saying things like "RP should be excluded from all debates."

like many here, i do not feel that good about having to associate heavily w/the current republican party - but laws limit libertarians (and Bob Barr was a schmuck) so i do it. i'll gladly continue to push for acceptance of our platform, and it should be easier as the current GOP rallies in opposition to Obama's Bush-like positions.

my .02
 
I can't believe the odds are so high for Obama considering that the economy/recession will get much worse during his presidency according to RP and Schiff.
 
Why would Giuliani have better odds when he did far worse than Paul in the primaries?
 
Lindsey Graham 40/1? What are these oddsmakers smoking? That video of him calling bigots whoever opposes his amnesty should ruin any chance he has.
 
I agree...which is why he should announce now, so we can start telling everyone about it NOW. And, forget Steve Forbes. If I recall correctly, he was originally a fan of some of the bailouts.

And at RevolutionSD, I suppose you want to torch the Constitution then? Government has its proper role.

The constitution was torched a LONG time ago. Bush just put the finishing touches on it. And he's right, it's just a goddamn piece of paper. What makes you think we can turn government around? If you haven't noticed, they do what they want.

Tell me how we're going to turn a coercive, violent organization into a benevolent one and I'm game for another election. Otherwise it's just a WOT to me.
 
....those odds are greatly distorted. Does anyone in the country NOT think Sarah Palin is a complete and total moron?

I'm tellin' you guys, odds for Ron in 2012 are great.

I see "Sarah" or "Cuda" bumper stickers all the time - far more than McCain or even "W04" (and I still see a lot of those, as hard as that is to believe). There are a lot of neoconservative evangelicals.

And "Moron" is relative. If you're going through life with an IQ of 90 then Palin is a genius and someone like Ron Paul is so smart he's just obnoxious and doesn't make sense when he talks about things like "fiat currency".
 
I see "Sarah" or "Cuda" bumper stickers all the time - far more than McCain or even "W04" (and I still see a lot of those, as hard as that is to believe). There are a lot of neoconservative evangelicals.

And "Moron" is relative. If you're going through life with an IQ of 90 then Palin is a genius and someone like Ron Paul is so smart he's just obnoxious and doesn't make sense when he talks about things like "fiat currency".

Masterfully articulated.
 
sure its all rigged as we found out this last time without a doubt, but im hoping that this time around people will finally be pissed off enough to do things with force and make the government back down. there is nothing like mad people with a hero to lead them or to get behind. ron paul can be that man if he announces now, or right after obama is sworn in...which im wondering if thats all that is holding him back right now. he sees the massive support for him now that wasnt there even 2 months ago.
 
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/ma...-obama-cray-ahead-inauguration-day-537712824/



US Presidential Election 2012 - Winning Candidate (Next President)

4/5 Barack Obama
7/1 Sarah Palin
10/1 Hillary Clinton
11/1 Mitt Romney
14/1 Mike Huckabee
16/1 Joe Biden
20/1 Jon Huntsman
25/1 Bobby Jindal
33/1 Fred Thompson
33/1 Bill Owens
40/1 Evan Bayh
40/1 Rudolph Giuliani
40/1 Jeb Bush
40/1 Lindsey Graham
40/1 David Petraeus
50/1 Tom Ridge
50/1 Ron Paul
66/1 John McCain
66/1 Al Gore

Someone explain to me how in the heck Hillary is #3. Are they betting on Barack being assassinated or impeached or something?
 
If memory serves me correctly I believe bookmakers had much higher odds of Ron Paul winning in the early stages of the last election (like 250/1 or something like that). So I guess this is a small victory.
 
Someone explain to me how in the heck Hillary is #3. Are they betting on Barack being assassinated or impeached or something?

Just a guess and something I was thinking after Barack won the nomination...Hillary could always run as a 3rd party candidate.

Unlikely to happen but it's possible.
 
If memory serves me correctly I believe bookmakers had much higher odds of Ron Paul winning in the early stages of the last election (like 250/1 or something like that). So I guess this is a small victory.

It shows how far this campaign has come.... :)
 
you have to understand, people looking from the outside, have plenty of reason to be pessimistic. Paul never ever had good polling numbers nor did he place well in any MAJOR primarys. His fundraising could have been a "fluke"
but when your on the inside looking out you know that we will do well
 
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