ron paul needs a suit that fits.

[Paulatized]

It seems like every time he's interviewed in the capitol rotunda there is this big gap between his shirt collar and his suit collar, like it needs to be pulled up on his shoulders. It drives me crazy, but I am highly visual. Sometimes it's even hard to listen to what he's saying because I wanting to fix that. Maybe he could be convinced that there are people out there who could actually listen to the message better if something in the picture wasn't askew.

 

[acptulsa]

Hey, Dr. Paul. I'm no better than you so far as this goes. But, you know, whether we want to believe it or not, there is something to the old saying 'dress for the job you want (or that we want for you), not the job you have.'

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I could list a number of ways our society is morally warped, but how many people do you think that will attract to me?

Let me ask you something....who were the popular kids in highschool? The one's that were negative about every school dance, function, sport, or get together, or the kids that were excited about everything and involved. It's basic social dynamics we should be using it to our advantage.

We're in it to win it. Do what it takes to win.

 

[Cowlesy]

Congressman Paul should just ask Congressman Weiner where he gets his suits. You can tell he's got a good tailor. And they have the same slim/trim build.

I totally understand and respect Ron being frugal and heck, most people don't wear suits that fit. But, this is the biggest game in all the land. Come suited up to play hard.

 

[ronaldo23]

Rand's the same; in all his interviews, he wears one of two different suits (his charcoal and pin striped one) that don't particular fit all that well either, and both of which look to be average quality. There was a good article in the Bowling Green paper about how Rand's wife once brought a coupon book to pay for dinner with friends at a restaurant, and how Rand prides himself on his $12 used golf shoes.

I imagine the Paul's going to Kmart at 5 am on Black Friday to purchase their suits off the shelves, without any tailoring (I don't mean that in a condescending way...it's part of the reason I think they are awesome at life.)

Still, this, and his ridiculous facebook ghost-writer, are two things that someone needs to suggest to him that he fix

 

[Joey Fuller]

he needs to come out drinking a beer, loading a rifle, and waiving a don't tread on me flag.. that would convert like 20,000 neocons/teocons to our side.

 

[Agorism]

Santorum doesn't look like a president to me. He looks like he needs a rhinoplasty.

 

[Justinjj1]

This is a ridiculous thread. Some of you people are trying way too hard to find things to bitch about.

 

[DirtMcGirt]

Congressman Paul should just ask Congressman Weiner where he gets his suits. You can tell he's got a good tailor. And they have the same slim/trim build.

I totally understand and respect Ron being frugal and heck, most people don't wear suits that fit. But, this is the biggest game in all the land. Come suited up to play hard.

Agreed. Go out and get 3 tailored Hugo Boss suits.

 

[Kludge]

More and more, I'm convinced Ron is exceptionally stubborn in his personal beliefs. I bet the idea of a hand-tailored suit made specially for him and costing over $200 in price would deeply offend him, distracting him when he's talking for feeling like a hypocrite. Maybe we should be happy he's not so stubborn that all his clothes come from the Salvation Army.

The black and gold tie, though. Wtf was that?! Some type of anarcho-capitalist code?

P.S. Why can't we attack other candidates like Huckabee for wearing abhorrently expensive clothing while claiming to want to help the poor? Whatever happened to the Christian belief in modesty and charity?

 

[sratiug]

More and more, I'm convinced Ron is exceptionally stubborn in his personal beliefs. I bet the idea of a hand-tailored suit made specially for him and costing over $200 in price would deeply offend him, distracting him when he's talking for feeling like a hypocrite. Maybe we should be happy he's not so stubborn that all his clothes come from the Salvation Army.

The black and gold tie, though. Wtf was that?! Some type of anarcho-capitalist code?

P.S. Why can't we attack other candidates like Huckabee for wearing abhorrently expensive clothing while claiming to want to help the poor? Whatever happened to the Christian belief in modesty and charity?

+1

And if you've never been under television lighting, you may not fully appreciate the heat factor. The loose suit has to be cooler. Several thousand watts of lights can really make you sweat even with short sleeves and no jacket.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Simple fix, change the material of the suit.

And I had a serious laugh from the guy that said we have "nothing better to complain about." Guess what, smart-ass? Little things like this matter. Maybe not to you, but certainly to the general public. I want to win, and I'll take a day off to get the man fitted for a suit if it increases positive perception.

But, I'm sure you know what that's all about because you've managed to annoy a fellow Ron Paul supporter by trolling with your crude language behind a computer. People like you, sir, are exactly how we make enemies. You're so standoffish it's unattractive.

Take a lesson, folks, don't be like that guy to other people.

 

[Kludge]

Simple fix, change the material of the suit.

And I had a serious laugh from the guy that said we have "nothing better to complain about." Guess what, smart-ass? Little things like this matter. Maybe not to you, but certainly to the general public. I want to win, and I'll take a day off to get the man fitted for a suit if it increases positive perception.

But, I'm sure you know what that's all about because you've managed to annoy a fellow Ron Paul supporter by trolling with your crude language behind a computer. People like you, sir, are exactly how we make enemies. You're so standoffish it's unattractive.

Take a lesson, folks, don't be like that guy to other people.

Don't forget -- the little things matter!

 

[eleganz]

This is a very simple and relatively cost effective fix.

He doesn't need a new suit, just a tailor to take in the sides, shoulders, sleeves and leg width for a more modern fit.


Cost to benefit is very favorable to the movement.

 

[amonasro]

I sell designer mens clothing as a side job. I've seen the difference in what goes into making a $2000 Ralph Lauren Purple Label suit and compared it to a cheap $200 Mens Wearhouse fused number. I also own a couple very nice suits and sport coats as a result, and know firsthand how a suit should fit.

That said, Ron doesn't need an expensive or modern suit to look good. The camera only sees you from the waist up so the jacket should fit well. Basing on how he looked in the last debate, there were only a couple things wrong concerning the fit. The fabric itself looked nice and it generally seemed well-constructed. However, the neck had a massive gape and the shoulders were too big, causing the shoulder line to slope making him look weaker. Also the chest and waist were also too big and gave the impression of empty space, ruining the V-shape that a well-fitting suit gives a man. Overall, kind of a mess. He's a thin guy that would look great in a proper fitting suit.

Unfortunately most tailors cannot fix shoulders without completely recutting the jacket which isn't cost effective. If he just went one size smaller (say from a 42 to a 40) most of these issues would probably be solved.

As a point of comparison, Cain had the best suit, setting himself apart with a classy double-breasted, peak lapel suit. Watch him in the debate. Notice how his shoulder line does not slope. The chest and shoulder fit, the arms aren't too big and the jacket doesn't move around when he gestures. He looks strong. Yes, it's an optical illusion, but that's what a suit does. Based on that and his commanding, deep voice, people thought he looked Presidential.

 

[amonasro]

+1

And if you've never been under television lighting, you may not fully appreciate the heat factor. The loose suit has to be cooler. Several thousand watts of lights can really make you sweat even with short sleeves and no jacket.

As a performer I'm under stage lights all the time in heavy costuming. They are bright and warm but not as hot as you'd think. Wool actually breathes fairly well if it's not heavy. It's not so bad. (The worst is leather FYI)

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I'd rather piss-off and lose 5 to 10 supporters on here that take issue with trying to make him "look the part" as a trade off for using that look to gain at least a few thousand more supporters.

Little things matter when presenting someone who wants to be president to the public. Things like dress, presentation, delivery, public perception. Not some troll on the forum with 200 posts that takes issue with sending the best candidate we can to debates, rallies, and interviews.

I see how your post is trying to expose irony but calling someone a smart-ass isn't trolling or using crude language. Callin' it how I see it, Kludge. This thread is about getting Ron to present himself as presidential material, and some loser has the nerve to come in and whine.

Like I said, I want to win. The campaign better start acting like a real campaign, and that means preparing our man to win the job. Time to get serious.

And you know damn well if Romney was preaching the same exact message next to Ron he'd be looked upon far more favorably because he's much more thoroughly put together and he's a better speaker. Same for Huckabee. You want to compete with those guys? Get our man to deliver and dress like them.

Don't forget -- the little things matter!

 

[CaliforniaMom]

So is there going to be a moneybomb to buy him a tailored suit?

 

[falconplayer11]

Ha that would be hilarious! But the media would just make fun of us

 

[Paulinator408]

Ha that would be hilarious! But the media would just make fun of us

So what else is new..

I support the new suits idea. How can this be sent to him directly? (in a humble, respectful manner of course) He is a representative of us, and we are representatives of him. I am in it to win it, and if he is too, then it shouldn't be a big deal.