Ron Paul: Most Donations From the Military!

[Eric21ND]

I'd like to see a graph with the symbol of each branch represented.

 

[DjLoTi]

I'd like to see a graph with the symbol of each branch represented.

yeah we should make an awesome looking info graph and put Ron Paul bullet points on it.
lol

Maybe we should display all the candidates in unison, telling the troops to march to war, with their small donation amount, and we can have Ron Paul on the flip side, in quotes saying "just come home"

we should make the candidates and the march to war look evil and scary btw. Evil *clean* scary lol.

Idk i'll talk to my artist friend about it. She's a graphic designer and she kind of owes me lol. Unless anyone wants to start making a graphic design...

 

[Travlyr]

I just hope people stop being so critical of the military on these boards and realize we are on the same team.

I'm with AF on this one. I have friends who have made military their entire career who will retire with great benefits, and I can hardly look him in the eye when we get to the political discussion. Major General Smedley Butler USMC "War is a Racket" took the wind out of my sail for supporting military operations.

A President Ron Paul will put us on the same team. Thank you for helping our cause.

 

[musicmax]

Sure, although I don't honestly get that part. I think the fact that he is the only Constitutionalist running for President is much more important.

To you. Others - I know this is a shock - may have different priorities.

 

[[email protected]]

Sweet!

 

[sailingaway]

To you. Others - I know this is a shock - may have different priorities.

 

[independentnc]

So i remember last election Dr. Paul had more military donations then all candidates combined ( both R's and D's)

So ran through the numbers on FEC site http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2011/Q2/
I based these numbers off the employer section. Anyone who described their employer as military.
Army, Navy ,Air Force, National Guard ,Costa Guard, Marine Corps and Dept of Defense.


An this is what i have come up with so far.

*Now these numbers are not 100% accurate, i may have missed one here or there. *


Cain $6223
Romney $4350
Bachmann $2550
Newt $1025
Pawnlety $250
Santorum $250
Johnson $0

Total $14648.00



The Good Doctor comes in more than double all the other Republican candidates combined.

Paul $ 31822.21

Add in Obama's total of $14849.00 to the others ($29497.00) and Ron still beats em!

Here is what I cam up with for Ron Paul

USAF *30351.28
USAF (RETIRED) 226.2
US MILITARY * 551.20
US NAVY * 2,320.28
US NAVY RESERVE * 801.20
US ARMY * 11,057.44
US ARMY RETIRED * 201.20
US COAST GUARD * 451.20
USMC * 713.61
USN * 1,201.20
USNR * 500.00
US AIR FORCE * 3,026.32
US AIRFORCE * 212.00
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE * 451.20
UNITED STATES ARMY * 302.20
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS * 301.20
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS / GSSC * 329.00
UNITED STATES MILITARY * 380.00
UNITED STATES NAVY * 2,877.80
U S NAVY * 250.00
NAVY * 50.00
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE * 701.20
DEPARTMENT OF NAVY * 250.00
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE * 227.60
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS * 667.20
DEPT ARMY * 100.00
DEPT OF DEFENSE * 1,000.00
DOD * 1,869.60
DOD - US NAVY * 400.00
ARMY * 554.50
ARMY RESERVE * 201.20
Total 35,222.83
I wish that I had time to go through them all.

 

[independentnc]

Here is what I came up with for Ron Paul

USAF *30351.28
USAF (RETIRED) 226.2
US MILITARY * 551.20
US NAVY * 2,320.28
US NAVY RESERVE * 801.20
US ARMY * 11,057.44
US ARMY RETIRED * 201.20
US COAST GUARD * 451.20
USMC * 713.61
USN * 1,201.20
USNR * 500.00
US AIR FORCE * 3,026.32
US AIRFORCE * 212.00
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE * 451.20
UNITED STATES ARMY * 302.20
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS * 301.20
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS / GSSC * 329.00
UNITED STATES MILITARY * 380.00
UNITED STATES NAVY * 2,877.80
U S NAVY * 250.00
NAVY * 50.00
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE * 701.20
DEPARTMENT OF NAVY * 250.00
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE * 227.60
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS * 667.20
DEPT ARMY * 100.00
DEPT OF DEFENSE * 1,000.00
DOD * 1,869.60
DOD - US NAVY * 400.00
ARMY * 554.50
ARMY RESERVE * 201.20
Total 35,222.83
I wish that I had time to go through them all.

 

[mit26chell]

Wait... Ron didn't raise the most money from military, R & D combined... I'm pretty sure he received the most out of all republican candidates from soldiers with an 'overseas' status. Obama raised the most from active duty military out of all candidates, from both parties. But when you look at overall military, John McCain actually came in first.


Source: USA Today
Among soldiers serving overseas at the time of their donations, 134 gave a total of $60,642 to Obama while 26 gave a total of $10,665 to McCain. That was less than the amount received by Republican Ron Paul, who collected $45,512 from 99 soldiers serving abroad, the report said.

 

[mit26chell]

Btw - I consider active duty to be the most important - they're the ones whose opinions matter most regarding war. They want to come home. So the fact that Ron was #1 out of all the republican candidates in 2008 was incredible, and spoke volumes. I just wanted to point out what I did above, so that we don't open ourselves up to 'debunking' articles in the MSM.


But focusing on the real message of Paul, who came in first place among republican candidates, and Obama, who came in first among all candidates of both parties, being the top candidates in the eyes of the active duty military, it is clear and the numbers do not mince words - the peace candidate always wins.

 

[IndianaPolitico]

Let's get a accurate number, and let's spread this far and wide! The campaign should really talk about this alot!

 

[thehighwaymanq]

Let's get a accurate number, and let's spread this far and wide! The campaign should really talk about this alot!

Seriously. They need to start pushing 1) Military Donations 2) RP Predictions 3) Media lies

 

[mpdsapuser]

Once we get the accurate number and have a source, we should sent it to Mr. Neoconservative Mark Levin. He's routinely insulted members of the military who call and talk about military donations being highest for Ron Paul as not being legitimate.

 

[rich34]

I think Ron's veteran status should also be linked to this news. Really get all the bang for our buck.

 

[Todd]

Btw - I consider active duty to be the most important - they're the ones whose opinions matter most regarding war. They want to come home.

Well they aren't the "most important". Every reserve and guard unit in the country is on a 4 to 6 year rotation cycle for overseas deployments thanks to the Bush administration and guard and reservists have taken a good 1/4 or more of the casualties in these wars. Every military man woman who's had to deploy hasn't always been on active duty and ALL are important when crunching these numbers. Understanding that is extremely important to knowing that many part time soldiers have been on multiple deployments and their opinion is of equal weight.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

A very real perception, and one that I get criticized for on a regular basis with regard to cops.

While I can't speak for everybody, please note that for me, it's not personal, however, I collectively "judge" because I truly believe that you are serving a system that has gone corrupt and rotten and that the only solution for an individual in this situation, or one I took in a similar circumstance (do not take the position in the first place), is to quit, as quickly as possible and cease to serve the system.

Some disagree with this, citing Ron's career in Congress for example, and that is their right, but that is why I'm critical.

Like it or not, you are the enforcement arm, the iron fist, the front line, of everything we are fighting against.

i'm with AF on this one. and in expressing my opinion, i admit i am, essentially, "biting the hand that feeds me." the corruption within the armed forces is rampant from the top all the way down and it grows every day. for me, it is personal. very personal. and i find myself walking a tightrope of respect for my husband but disgust at what the military is being used for (and is allowing itself to be used).

fortunately, he has not found himself in a situation that has presented a moral dilemma for him. not yet, anyway.

the unfortunate thing: he cannot just quit or walk away due to the contract he signed with the DoD. at least, he can't walk away without facing major monetary and/or prison penalties.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

I joined the Air Force to become an intelligence analyst to help find Osama bin Laden. I see no problem with that.

Also, some people may reject these numbers. For some reason, they think people who donate to Ron Paul are marking down the military as their employer, when in reality they aren't in the military. That's the problem with it being self-identifying. Lame, I know.

 

[CaseyJones]

"The soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war." -- Douglas MacArthur

 

[MelissaWV]

I joined the Air Force to become an intelligence analyst to help find Osama bin Laden. I see no problem with that.

Also, some people may reject these numbers. For some reason, they think people who donate to Ron Paul are marking down the military as their employer, when in reality they aren't in the military. That's the problem with it being self-identifying. Lame, I know.

True, there's always that. Isn't there also a chance they are doing that in other candidates' camps, though? I know *YOU* aren't rejecting numbers, but it's food for thought for those that are.

 

[dusman]

the unfortunate thing: he cannot just quit or walk away due to the contract he signed with the DoD. at least, he can't walk away without facing major monetary and/or prison penalties.

Hi, I just wanted to comment on this. I made that difficult to decision to get out of the Army soon as possible and had to fight the system to do it. Ron Paul had inspired a new interest for me - the Constitution. However, with that interest, it was inevitable that I would come to this conclusion:

To be a soldier whom puts his oath as the superior order of their duty, is incompatible with our current military system. The only choice to be an honorable, oath-keeping soldier is to either spend half a lifetime trying to change it from the inside or get out of the military and change it from the outside.

On that conclusion, I chose the latter of the two. It was a tough fight to get out, but I was able to get out early on a general, under honorable - upgraded to an honorable. The only thing I lost was the GI funds for college.

For reinforcement, I expressed in good faith to my First Sergeant what it meant to me to be a soldier and that it wasn't compatible with the kind of soldier they seem to wand. I asked for his support in a smooth transition out of the military for this reason, because I wasn't changing my mind. He backed me up and I fell in line for 2 months and played good soldier, then got out.

It was a tough decision, but I don't regret it whatsoever. I feel like I made the right choice as a soldier. I am much happier knowing I stood up for what I believed in and didn't back down.

So in a way, Ron Paul not only changed my life - perhaps he may have saved it.

Ron Paul 2012