Ron Paul is the Hipster Candidate

[deputydon]

Hah, wow, we both made the hipster/emo connection at the same time

Yes, I was getting ready to mention that. It's just so annoying in general, I was still in high school when the Emo craze started. I remember the band, Coheed and Cambria, which pretty much sounds like more of a modern day Rush in some cases, so 'progressive' rock. And everyone called them emo just because the guy sings in a higher pitch voice. THEN they released this song:
and within a week everyone loved the band because it was heavier than anything they had released to that point. If Coheed is emo, then Rush is emo. If Bright Eyes is Emo, then Bob Dylan or even Johnny Cash would have been emo. It's a stupid label to allow people to degrade music when describing it to someone that hasn't heard it before (even though the person describing it probably hasn't really listened to it either).

 

[eduardo89]

I hate hipsters. And Coheed and Cambria suck.

 

[tfurrh]

 

[Stupified]

As a side note, I miss the days when music was simple genres, like rock, metal, punk, Jazz, blues, hip hop, folk, and country. These days have become such a joke when describing music. We have black, hair, death, thrash, Gothic, power, speed, and probably 18 more types of just Metal.

Try finding bands related to the ones you like without having 18 different genres and subgenres. If they were all just "metal" bands... how would you know to stay away from the shit? Genre names allow us to ignore, or focus exclusively, on entire sections of the metal scene.

 

[deputydon]

Try finding bands related to the ones you like without having 18 different genres and subgenres. If they were all just "metal" bands... how would you know to stay away from the shit? Genre names allow us to ignore, or focus exclusively, on entire sections of the metal scene.

By someone saying, 'they sound like [insert a similar band here]' I mean, honestly, there is a genre of music called HAIR METAL.

 

[eduardo89]

By someone saying, 'they sound like [insert a similar band here]' I mean, honestly, there is a genre of music called HAIR METAL.

And it's awesome.

 

[Stupified]

By someone saying, 'they sound like [insert a similar band here]' I mean, honestly, there is a genre of music called HAIR METAL.

I guess you're more old school than myself. I'll stick with the current system. If I see that a band is "Progressive Melodic Death Metal," I can almost know exactly what the band sounds like before having even listened to them yet.

Genres = efficiency.

 

[Flugel89]

I hated hipsters before it was cool.

I lol'ed.

 

[tfurrh]

"Progressive Melodic Death Metal"

confusing...

 

[deputydon]

I guess you're more old school than myself. I'll stick with the current system. If I see that a band is "Progressive Melodic Death Metal," I can almost know exactly what the band sounds like before having even listened to them yet.

Genres = efficiency.

My biggest problem is that I don't like a band just because of it's genre. I'm fairly picky on the music I listen to, so for me to hear, 'Progressive Melodic Death Metal' doesn't mean I'll like them, even if I liked a different band that is described that exact same way. To be fair though, I haven't really liked much metal lately. As I grew up, I sort of drifted away from the really heavy stuff. But that was mainly because I noticed a trend where every really heavy metal band had absolutely terrible lyrics, and it aggravated me.

 

[dannno]

My biggest problem is that I don't like a band just because of it's genre. I'm fairly picky on the music I listen to, so for me to hear, 'Progressive Melodic Death Metal' doesn't mean I'll like them, even if I liked a different band that is described that exact same way.

Ya, I don't understand why people choose what music they like based on the genre... I don't even like some music that is produced by a band that I think has some work that is absolute genius.

I was listening to a metal band last night that one of my friends used to listen to. First I put on a live show that was recent and, while I have to admit it is hard to judge when you aren't actually at the show, they didn't sound nearly as complex as what I'm used to hearing from them.

 

[Stupified]

I've seen Caliban live and they were pretty good (for Germans ).

 

[Mr. Perfidy]

I think people need to be re-thinking their idea of "individual" and best show some respect for the things that folks express with their fashion; to look at, say, a black person, and assume a bunch of behaviors, is often irrational. To look at a person who has for years thought to acquire tattoos of nautical stars, and this very morning brushed his hair onto his forehead, who may this very moment be talking to you pretending to not want to fuckin move that shit off his eyebrow- that's not collectivism or hating to see these communications and to have an interpretation presumption. If your assumptions are in line with the culturally shared definitions of symbols, then it is he with the miscommunicated symbols who is wrong, no?

anyway- I watched emo totally ruin hardcore in NJ. I was a peripheral scenester at the turn of the century, and the oldheads were all Lemmy'esque, Oliver Reed types; hard working class dudes that would laugh off an ass-kicking, drink themselves into a stupor to wake up, vomit, and get to work. They thought nothing at all of just hitting someone in the face- not to say that they were wantonly cruel and aggressive, but rather that they suffered none of the hesitations most people feel when they know that a hook to the face is what this asshole here deserves. They partied like lions and they had war dance circle breakdowns- it was fuckin awesome. But because these men were overflowing with vitality and benevolence and had sophisticated means of conflict resolution without the dehumanizing involvement of the state, because of this, these little spider men speckled the scene in their shadows and their crews. Most were well meaning small guys who had to be the sensitive one in the crew to make girls pay attention to them. But there were actively vindictive, anti-hardcore vitality elements among them, playing their soundtrack. They are the vampire rebellion of the anti-human global revolution and they totally ruined hardcore.