RON Paul in 2016? Thoughts?

This is America. We are fat and lazy and die young.

Ron?!?!? :eek:

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Might as well try. Who cares if he'll be 80? Last time I checked, there wasn't a maximum age requirement to run for president.

These are Rand's prime years. He should be taking over now for Ron. We can't just keep squeezing the juice out of Ron when we have someone fresh and new like Ron who is accepted by many mainstreamers in the GOP. Nobody's going to vote for an 81 year old to be president.
 
Doesn't that put you at odds with AF? Or are you able to agree to disagree? ( we could use a whole lot more of that)

I think it does, but it really depends on your outlook, so hopefully the great AF can forgive our sins, even though we hold similar views on almost everything else.
 
No way Ron Paul in 2016. What are you people smoking???

Ron Paul has no desire or intention of wanting to be President. That is OUR desire. We can't make that happen when you run around the country talking to only 10-15% of the voters (young people on college campuses) while letting every neocon talk show host smear and lie about you all in the same time you refuse to attack the front runner that you don't agree with any issue on Mitt Romney. Still waiting to find out what deal was made with Romney. Oh that's right, use Rand as the go to guy to herd Ron Paul supporters so the establishment can co-opt our message. :mad:

Many Paul faithfuls have yet figure out that Ron Paul's definition of "in it to win it" was not about winning the Presidency. If you look at how Ron carried his campaign from the start to the end, he is all about spreading the message i.e. brush fires. That's it!!! It's up to us to decide who we want that leader to be in the near future. Unfortunately, it's not gonna be Ron in 2016 for me because I want to WIN that top spot. We need someone in there that will not compromise. We need someone in there to void executive orders. We need someone in there that will let states like AZ defend themselves. We need someone in there that will veto everything. The President holds much much power than the average American realizes. Far more power to change things than a few state reps or local reps in a handful of states. It's all about that top spot IMO.

Judge NAP 2016!!!
 
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Maybe, just maybe, this is already his plan. Running for President takes time. Ron is so conscientious about his Congressional duties; he's not comfortable just writing it off and missing all the votes. Being a Congressman is a full-time job. Running for President is a full-time job. Ron is quitting one full-time job. Could it be so that he can focus on the other?



In any case, it is certainly not impossible that Ron would run in 2016. Most everyone said that he'd be too old in 2012. They said "time to pass the torch," "don't be delusional," "he'll never run," etc., etc. But he diii-iid.... :)


How long are you going to be saying this? There has to be a point at which the "he did it last time" thing just doesn't work anymore. How old does he have to be when you say, "You know what, he might not want to do it this time."
 
I think maybe the boss should retire, for Carols sake. She deserves her man at home or campground hopin' in an RV or something. They both deserve peace and a nice retirement after almost 4 decades of fighting TPTB. or Ron Paul 2012 !!! I prefer Ron Paul 2012 !!! at the moment. :D
 
So, Ron Paul 2012 continues til the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida. If Mitt Romney loses and gives the liberty movement nothing during the campaign we support Rand Paul in 2016. Is Rand Paul looking to even run for President in 2016 if Mitt Romney loses in November? If Rand Paul for President is going to become a real
concept we need to start preparing now to raise the one hundred million it is going to take to win the Republican Party Primary. All this fundraising cannot even start until
the completion of the 2012 Presidential election. If Mitt Romney beats Barrack Obama then the liberty movement will not be able to field a candidate until after the 2016 presidential term. This is why a Rand Paul picked as Vice Presidential nominee is crucial, if Mitt Romney claims victory. We all know now that the liberty movement
cannot elect a Republican nominee by itself. We need votes from a cross section of the Republican Party. Our goal has to go from 2 million voters to ten million voters.
 
How long are you going to be saying this? There has to be a point at which the "he did it last time" thing just doesn't work anymore. How old does he have to be when you say, "You know what, he might not want to do it this time."
Oh, very true he might not. What do you mean "how long"? It's not as if I've long been propounding the theory that Ron is going to run again. I just found this thread and was tickled by the idea. It could be good. I was just putting forth something to think about, an idea that you may not have considered: that Ron may be quitting Congress to spend more time meeting with evangelical leaders and whatnot, all the things Doug is talking about. I do not consider it an overwhelmingly likely possibility, just an interesting one.

I'd put the chances of Ron running for President again in 2016 at 15%, at best. Chances are he will not, in my opinion, which like yours and everyone else's is really just a baseless guess. But of course I'd support him if he did, and I'm sure you would as well.
 
The last two presidential campaigns have aged him a lot, and Carol's experienced health problems both times. I'd support him if he did run, but I'd be fine with him taking his leave and being an advocate outside the swamp.
 
I'd vote 3rd party before I vote Rand.

You mean like if Ron was running 3rd party? lol

I vote 3rd party all the time my self, if possible. But I'm willing to bet that if Rand runs in 4 years I would support him. Maybe. He may become a statist by then. But I doubt it. And wile Rand and I have had our dissagreements in the past couple of day,,, I am still willing to forgive and forget these political shenanigans for now.

He is in his 1st term and made a mistake. He doesn't know it yet. But I think he comes to the light about it soon enough,
 
I'm sure this has been mentioned, but a constant attack I noticed against Ron this cycle was a constant comparison of him to Ralph Nader. They made him out to be a perennial candidate in the mold of Nader and Stassen. I disagreed vehemently at every chance I could, but if Ron was to mount a 2016 bid, there's honestly no way he'd be able to escape that stigma.
 
As much as I respect and admire Dr. Paul I think another run at the presidency in 2016 would be unsuccessful because of his age. However if Sen. Paul doesn't run I'd love to see his Father at the debates making mincement out of the other candidates again! Personally I think Dr. Paul has served you faithfully for a long time and deserves a happy and peaceful retirement. Having said that I can't imagine he will be idle or quiet after he finishes his term of office.
 
Rand 2016 is obvious and very exciting to look forward to. in the meantime, we focus on state, house, and senate seats.
 
If Romney loses in November, I don't believe that Ron will run in 2016. I think it will be Rand.

It would be very smart for Liberty Republicans to have some other candidates start to dip their toes into the nomination process as well to begin to set themselves up for future runs. Looking back at the last 50 years of GOP nominees, you'll see that a good percentage of them won the nomination on their 2nd or 3rd attempt: Romney ran in 08 & 12; McCain in 00 & 08; Dole in 80, 88 & 92; Bush in 80 & 88; Reagan in 68, 76 & 80. So if guys like Amash want to eventually take a serious run at the nomination, getting themselves out in IA & NH in 16 would do well for them for future runs.
 
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I'd be for it. I'm pretty sure Ron wouldn't be though. He is clearly tired of this. I was incredibly surprised Ron ran this time.
 
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