RON Paul in 2016? Thoughts?

[sailingaway]

Ron got the movement off the ground. We now need someone who can take us to the next level and that is not Ron. It might not even be Rand. Maybe Massie or Amash runs instead? Ron will continue to be active but he doesn't need to be running for president.

I'm not willing to trade a movement that actually represents US for 'the next level'. And anyone who actually represents us against all the entrenched interests will get the demonization and marginalization by media that Ron got.

 

[trey4sports]

I'm not willing to trade a movement that actually represents US for 'the next level'. And anyone who actually represents us against all the entrenched interests will get the demonization and marginalization by media that Ron got.

the "next level" and "us" are not mutually exclusive. Besides, are we really satisfied merely protesting this stuff?

I mean we haven't won a damn fight yet and i'm ready to actually audit the fed, bring the troops home, end the drug war, repeal the patriot act, repeal the NDAA, and lower the tax rates.

Unfortanetly we haven't hardly won a single fight, we've just been pissin' in the wind.

 

[atomicsink]

I don't think he'll be alive in 4 years. Retirement wrecks havoc on your health.

As far as the movement there are plenty of people to take his place, we need to be finding them instead of clinging on to a man in his 70s. He's done his job, accomplished as much as he could given the circumstances, now let's look to the future.

 

[sailingaway]

I don't think he'll be alive in 4 years. Retirement wrecks havoc on your health.

I wouldn't expect retirement of the retirement sort from Ron. He is leaving the House, is all.

 

[sailingaway]

the "next level" and "us" are not mutually exclusive. Besides, are we really satisfied merely protesting this stuff?

I mean we haven't won a damn fight yet and i'm ready to actually audit the fed, bring the troops home, end the drug war, repeal the patriot act, repeal the NDAA, and lower the tax rates.

Unfortanetly we haven't hardly won a single fight, we've just been pissin' in the wind.

I am certainly satisfied with Ron, and with more machinery on our side we'd do better next time. I certainly wouldn't compromise on candidates. Of course, I hope new people will prove themselves to be as good, but I doubt we'll find a step UP.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

I mean we haven't won a damn fight yet

New Hampshire reduced their state budget by 10% in 2011. That's huge.
Constitutional carry has passed in some places around the country.
Marijuana de-facto legalization is proceeding inexorably, state-by-state.

If New Hampshire reduces their state budget again next time by at least 10%, I think we should sit up and take notice. Something's happening up north there...

 

[ninepointfive]

tldr


but no, Ron is done. Someone else must pick up the torch and run with it. it's time

 

[jay_dub]

Well, gee, I'm not giving up on 2012.

Without a Ron Paul victory this year, we will be over $20 trillion in debt by 2016 (we are already at 103% debt to GDP ratio). We will have suffered more credit downgrades (Egan Jones downgraded us again back in April. Look for S&P to follow.). Interest rates will have gone up and we will be paying $1Trillion a year just on servicing the debt. IOW, pretty much economic collapse. Not to mention the foreign policy we will pursue as the Dollar goes through its death throes. And just imagine what will happen on the home front with these conditions. Oh, and Europe?

Ron has been telling us this for years. Does anyone not think the tipping point will come in the next 4 years? It would be great to think about the future if we had time to. We don't.

I still believe that going into Tampa with all the strength we can muster, along with Ron continuing to speak forcefully on these matters up til then leaves the door open for a victory. We all know the details of what needs to happen and that it's a long shot, but it's our ONLY shot. Let's take it.

I sent Dr. Paul an e-mail the other day through his Congressional office detailing some of the things I've mentioned here and encouraging him to soldier on. I would like to suggest an e-mail bomb to Dr. Paul from all of us to let him know just how the hopes of the nation and much of the world are riding on his shoulders. Barack Obama the World's President? Nah. That title is being reserved for one Ronald Ernest Paul. Let's let him know just how much we are behind him. He needs a second wind for the home stretch. Let's help give it to him.

RON PAUL 2012!!!

 

[jhk07]

What is this age discrimination crap ? And it is crap. He can probably ride a bicycle circles around 3/4 of us when he IS 80. And as long as his mind is sharp... who gives a rats ass. If he wants to retire, so be it. To say you would not support him in 2016 (if) because of his age, you need kicked in the nads.

 

[sailingaway]

Well, gee, I'm not giving up on 2012.

Without a Ron Paul victory this year, we will be over $20 trillion in debt by 2016 (we are already at 103% debt to GDP ratio). We will have suffered more credit downgrades (Egan Jones downgraded us again back in April. Look for S&P to follow.). Interest rates will have gone up and we will be paying $1Trillion a year just on servicing the debt. IOW, pretty much economic collapse. Not to mention the foreign policy we will pursue as the Dollar goes through its death throes. And just imagine what will happen on the home front with these conditions. Oh, and Europe?

Ron has been telling us this for years. Does anyone not think the tipping point will come in the next 4 years? It would be great to think about the future if we had time to. We don't.

I still believe that going into Tampa with all the strength we can muster, along with Ron continuing to speak forcefully on these matters up til then leaves the door open for a victory. We all know the details of what needs to happen and that it's a long shot, but it's our ONLY shot. Let's take it.

I sent Dr. Paul an e-mail the other day through his Congressional office detailing some of the things I've mentioned here and encouraging him to soldier on. I would like to suggest an e-mail bomb to Dr. Paul from all of us to let him know just how the hopes of the nation and much of the world are riding on his shoulders. Barack Obama the World's President? Nah. That title is being reserved for one Ronald Ernest Paul. Let's let him know just how much we are behind him. He needs a second wind for the home stretch. Let's help give it to him.

RON PAUL 2012!!!

You know, the grassroots need a lift. I can't think of anything better than Ron visibly making the most that can be made of his campaign, win, if possible, firing up supporters to do what we can, otherwise. We have conventions this week, and I understand Ron may be speaking in Iowa, but only from something Carol Paul said. I haven't seen anything else on it. She also said they haven't canceled anything and can only go where they are invited. I think we should send these emails encouraging Ron. I also wonder if we could set up other appearances for him, and invite him as was done with his Texas appearance. We'd have to understand that we'd be putting it on ourselves, though.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

Unfortunately, Ron was too old this time, much less 4 years from now. Not in a discrimination way, but based on observation.

1. He didn't keep up a particularly strenuous campaign schedule.
2. Appeared more rambly, less coherent in debates than even 4 years ago.
3. He didn't run to win. He wasn't even going to run this time, but had to be talked into it.

He is retiring from Congress. He has certainly earned his rest. In 2016, it will be time for the next generation of liberty fighters! I personally support Rand for 2016, but I don't know what all my choices will be.

 

[alex_florida]

double post

 

[alex_florida]

Isn't Israel's president in his 80's? So I see nothing wrong with Ron Paul campaigning again, if he does!

But I respect whatever decision he makes.

Israel is parlamentary republic, not presidencial republic. President of Israel is more ceremonial position than a real executive power.

 

[jay_dub]

You know, the grassroots need a lift. I can't think of anything better than Ron visibly making the most that can be made of his campaign, win, if possible, firing up supporters to do what we can, otherwise. We have conventions this week, and I understand Ron may be speaking in Iowa, but only from something Carol Paul said. I haven't seen anything else on it. She also said they haven't canceled anything and can only go where they are invited. I think we should send these emails encouraging Ron. I also wonder if we could set up other appearances for him, and invite him as was done with his Texas appearance. We'd have to understand that we'd be putting it on ourselves, though.

We saw Ron's focus with his Texas speech. It is exactly the right message for the rest of the campaign. Whether Ron gets to speak at any conventions or not, he can make himself available to the media to push this message that all need to hear. I can't help but think he's been bombarded with requests, but has turned them down due to the hoopla over Rand's endorsement.

At this point, it's not about raising money. It's about having the intestinal fortitude to see this thing through. Ron has to be a little discouraged with the recent events. HE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM US MORE THAN WE NEED TO HEAR FROM HIM!!. Let's let him know that we are unwavering in our support and exactly WHY we need Ron Paul as President!!

I have no idea how to get him more speaking slots, but will support any ideas on that. We can, however, all let Ron know we are 100% behind him and it doesn't cost anything at all. It's easy. Just go to his congressional page and click on 'contact'. Now, an e-mail or 2 may not get noticed, but hundreds will not be ignored!! Let's send Ron some LOVE!!

E-MAIL BOMB FOR RON PAUL!!!

 

[sailingaway]

We saw Ron's focus with his Texas speech. It is exactly the right message for the rest of the campaign. Whether Ron gets to speak at any conventions or not, he can make himself available to the media to push this message that all need to hear. I can't help but think he's been bombarded with requests, but has turned them down due to the hoopla over Rand's endorsement.

At this point, it's not about raising money. It's about having the intestinal fortitude to see this thing through. Ron has to be a little discouraged with the recent events. HE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM US MORE THAN WE NEED TO HEAR FROM HIM!!. Let's let him know that we are unwavering in our support and exactly WHY we need Ron Paul as President!!

I have no idea how to get him more speaking slots, but will support any ideas on that. We can, however, all let Ron know we are 100% behind him and it doesn't cost anything at all. It's easy. Just go to his congressional page and click on 'contact'. Now, an e-mail or 2 may not get noticed, but hundreds will not be ignored!! Let's send Ron some LOVE!!

E-MAIL BOMB FOR RON PAUL!!!

I will definitely send him my support, by email.

 

[James Madison]

Israel is parlamentary republic, not presidencial republic. President of Israel is more ceremonial position than a real executive power.

Under the Constitution, isn't the president more or less meant to be ceremonial? He can veto bills and appoint SC judges, both of which can be overridden by Congress. Sounds ceremonial to me.

 

[jcannon98188]

Is Amash old enough (in 2016) to run? If so I would gladly support him. He is like a freaking rockstar. What about Judge Nap? I would SO jump behind a Judge Nap presidency. And of course, if Ron Paul makes the run in 2016 I would totally support him. I think he deserves some rest, but if he still has it in him, then why the hell not?

 

[Richie]

No, not Ron Paul in 2016. Folks, I love Ron. However, he has a weakness for his family. IMO, 2008 and 2012 have been absolute disasters. If Ron ran again in 2016, we'd have Jesse Benton screwing things up again. I HOPE and PRAY that Rand is smarter in his future campaigns.

 

[trey4sports]

Judge nap is not going to run, he doesn't want the spotlight. He even said he wouldn't really want the VP position.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

we need to dutifully be outside the good doctor's front porch in 2015 for auld lang syne's sake becuz rand is a tad young, yet

Rand is a tad young, and you want his 80 year old dad to run? That is so funny.