RON Paul in 2016? Thoughts?

[S.Shorland]

I'd like some sort of nice monument for him.Something visible from a transcontinental rail line on the side of a hill.I don't think it has to be too expensive but just something big enough to suit his service.His face with 'LIBERTY' under it.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Reading this thread makes me sad.

You guys just don't get it. We have to move past him.

In 60 years I will know who Ron Paul was. And I will not forget what he stood for.

Don't pump the well dry guys. Let him go.

Exactly. RAND Paul 2016.

 

[Origanalist]

Exactly. RAND Paul 2016.

Doesn't that put you at odds with AF? Or are you able to agree to disagree? ( we could use a whole lot more of that)

 

[Yieu]

Reading this thread makes me sad.

You guys just don't get it. We have to move past him.

In 60 years I will know who Ron Paul was. And I will not forget what he stood for.

Don't pump the well dry guys. Let him go.

It's true, I'd love for Ron to run again, but we all know that is very unlikely.

The problem is, we don't know who we will be able to get behind now once 2016 comes along, and we have no one for 2012 anymore.

Hopefully someone will come to the spotlight before 2016, but it better be soon because 4 years isn't a long time.

3. What is the best tactic for promoting liberty (assuming Ron Paul does not become the Republican nominee)?

Many people have concluded from this likely eventuality that politics is a fool’s game in terms of bringing about a libertarian society.

I already thought this from the start, but decided to play along to see just how far it is possible to get. I am now less naive.

 

[blamx8]

If RP decided to run again, I can say right now with no hesitation, that I would once again support him with my time, money, voice, and vote.
Some of you talk like 4 more years is going to kill the man. I say it just makes him an even greater sage than he is now. Think of the growth we saw in his delivery from '08 to today.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Doesn't that put you at odds with AF? Or are you able to agree to disagree? ( we could use a whole lot more of that)

I guess we agree to disagree. Lol.

 

[bultza]

Let us make a money-bomb to finance the cloning of Ron Paul

 

[matt0611]

Let us make a money-bomb to finance the cloning of Ron Paul

We have his son, who is as close as we're gonna get.

I honestly wouldn't want Ron to run again even if he did (which he won't), I love the guy but the republicans just won't nominate him.

Rand Paul 2016 for me. I don't think there's anyone else I'd trust more besides Ron Paul and Judge Napolitano to be President than Rand.

 

[TrishW]

Ron Paul has already given so much. The role of presidency would be so draining. I would rather think of him spending his time with his wife, relaxing and enjoying his grandkids. All I would hope, is that Ron Paul give us a push in the right direction. I know if he says Rand, it is for a far better reason than just relationship.

I thought I was alone in my hopes for a better America. Ron Paul has brought me here, and introduced me to a world of people .... that I can actually agree with! lol

 

[V3n]

I'd love to see him take a little break to be with his family for a few months after his Congressional term is over.

After that, an RV tour - rock-star style! Travel across the country filling Stadiums for two years continuing to educate America and say everything he's always wanted to without 'the next Congressional run' hanging over his head (not that he's ever really held back!)

He can leave the campaigning aside for the next generation (other than campaigning for them) - and be a great leader and educator outside the system.

 

[sailingaway]

We have his son, who is as close as we're gonna get.

I honestly wouldn't want Ron to run again even if he did (which he won't), I love the guy but the republicans just won't nominate him.

Rand Paul 2016 for me. I don't think there's anyone else I'd trust more besides Ron Paul and Judge Napolitano to be President than Rand.

I think the entire point of this thread was that people are shaken about Rand and trying to keep committed by putting Ron out there again. 2016 will take care of itself and should have been left to do so, not intruded over 2012, imho.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

I'd love to see him take a little break to be with his family for a few months after his Congressional term is over.

After that, an RV tour - rock-star style! Travel across the country filling Stadiums for two years continuing to educate America and say everything he's always wanted to without 'the next Congressional run' hanging over his head (not that he's ever really held back!)

He can leave the campaigning aside for the next generation (other than campaigning for them) - and be a great leader and educator outside the system.

Now you're getting it, albeit incompletely. Paul is NOT retiring from politics, he's retiring from CONGRESS. This gives him a chance to hold stadium-filling youth rallies and headline liberty candidate fundraisers for the next 2-3 years, thereby building up the liberty movement outside of the GOP (having turned over the within-party structure to Rand). He doesn't have to run an energy-intensive REPUBLICAN campaign again, but can elect to run an educational 'Plan B' 3rd party candidacy if Rand fails in '16, where WE supply the missing energy.

Ron's 'retirement' opens up the possibility of a last run in 2016 on the LP line (if he wants to), after Rand runs for the 2016 Republican nomination and (as expected) gets hosed by the establishment, the same way they did Ron. Then all that infrastructure, built up for Rand's candidacy both inside and outside the GOP, can get swiftly transferred over to Ron, and we finally get to vote for Paul on Election day in 2016. Even if he still doesn't win, he will have completed the journey of being the Moses of the growing rEVOLution, even if he himself was ultimately unable to cross the Jordan into the White House.

 

[joshnorris14]

I think the entire point of this thread was that people are shaken about Rand and trying to keep committed by putting Ron out there again. 2016 will take care of itself and should have been left to do so, not intruded over 2012, imho.

These people don't get it. "Let him live out his life in peace"

This IS his life. If someone less than capable steps in to fill the void, he will not be at peace.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

Heard a lot of the "He'll be way too old in 2012" talk 4 years ago too. And Ron was freaking FANTASTIC on the campaign trail this time around.

Maybe after 3 years of relaxing and just giving a few speeches Ron will get the itch again.

Also, what if inflation really gets out of control? Or Obama attacks Iran and it goes poorly? Ron has by far the most credibility on those issues and Rand would have to give up his senate seat (and I personally wouldn't be nearly as excited about him) and Amash will probably still need more seasoning before he's ready.

No doubt it's a long ways off, but I'm not ruling it out.

 

[The Dude]

The only thing I would like to see from Ron after this campaign is over is TV appearances here and there and maybe some speeches at universities. Even if he ran in 2016, I wouldn't support him. He would just be too old, it's delusional to think he would be fit at age 80 to be President. We need to look elsewhere (and not at Rand) for a liberty candidate in 2016.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Maybe, just maybe, this is already his plan. Running for President takes time. Ron is so conscientious about his Congressional duties; he's not comfortable just writing it off and missing all the votes. Being a Congressman is a full-time job. Running for President is a full-time job. Ron is quitting one full-time job. Could it be so that he can focus on the other?



In any case, it is certainly not impossible that Ron would run in 2016. Most everyone said that he'd be too old in 2012. They said "time to pass the torch," "don't be delusional," "he'll never run," etc., etc. But he diii-iid....

 

[No Free Beer]

And next time, no one from the current campaign staff carries over. It needs to be a totally different team. Hire professionals who can be trusted.

Okay, AJ

 

[trey4sports]

Ron got the movement off the ground. We now need someone who can take us to the next level and that is not Ron. It might not even be Rand. Maybe Massie or Amash runs instead? Ron will continue to be active but he doesn't need to be running for president.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Okay, AJ

It's not me. I don't know any of these people and haven't followed all this drama stuff. But it's clear that there's too much bad feelings and distrust and so for the sake of team spirit and good feelings, it needs to be a new team. Too many people in the grassroots hate the campaign staff too bad for it to be an ideal productive situation. Plus, definitely there are many things which could have been done much better, of course. Not to say the team necessarily did a horrible job -- I don't know, I'm not qualified to judge.

 

[jmdrake]

It's obvious to anyone rationally looking at recent events that Ron brought his campaign in for a soft landing to pave the way for Rand to protect his own viability for 2016 by endorsing Romney. Ron's not running for office again.