RON Paul in 2016? Thoughts?

rick S brought back the bill mckinley handshake all over iowa by meeting some farmers.

maybe doctor ron paul can think over a warren g. harding era front porch campaign!!!!!
 
Here is another way to look at it...Someone ELSE runs...whether it is Rand or someone else...and Ron Paul might actually get MORE airtime being interviewed and talking about that other person than he did this year or in 2008. That would help more than another year of getting a couple hundred delegates and being ignored.
 
Presuming that Ron Paul is not to be elected, then after 2012, I think it would be much better if either Ron Paul (1) were to serve as head of one of the major national bureaucracies and effect policy changes through administrative regulations, e.g., Treasury, DHS, etc., or (2) were to publicly debate fulltime against the likes of current mainstream pundits and talking-heads, e.g., Cheney, Rove, etc.
 
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He doesn't have to. The idea that is Ron Paul has arrived. Now all that is needed is someone accepted by the establishment who will carry our torch. Someone who will vote almost identically to Ron but compromise on silly things like.. I don't know.. Endorsements.
 
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Absolutely NOT. Why spend another round when it only happens 4 years?

Sorry...but no one is electing an 80 yer old president. They just aren't. So...Ron Paul would only be taking up the space of someone that is the FUTURE of the movement. Like it or not, Ron Paul is mostly the past. (Some may say founder, but still, mostly in the past.)

It would mean not being able to have anyone with a REAL shot even get any experience in trying until 2020.

It is really a moot point. He simply is not going to do it. Again...like it or not, by 2016, Ron Pauls life expectancy...yes, even taking into account his fitness level...will be not much more than 4 years. With a greater than 50% chance of him dying within 4 years. (Especially since a job like that ages people considerably. Look at Obama today compared to 2007, or Bush in 2009 comapred to 2000.) And he doesn't want to be so stressed out for the rest of his life.

IT is simply time to move on and embrace the next leader(s). Honor the past, embrace the future.
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Very true and +rep
 
Somehow I've been living under the assumption that Ron ruled out running in 2016. Has he ever spoke about it?

He would be out of office for (3) years, since the election season, if it is open (Obama gets a 2nd term) would start in 2015.

However, I get the feeling that the system is pushing Romney. When was the last successful dark horse candidate? If you think Ron doesn't get coverage now, there would be nothing at all if it's against incumbent Romney.
 
Isn't Israel's president in his 80's? So I see nothing wrong with Ron Paul campaigning again, if he does! :)

But I respect whatever decision he makes.
 
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And by the way, I'm totally for the idea. Having the leader of the Iowa GOP being a Ron Paul person would help a lot.

And frankly, people who were 14-17 this year being able to vote (for Ron), and a bunch of old ass establishment voters dying off.

Sorry to have to put it that way.
 
Ron is great at educating, I think he would do great giving speeches to elementary, junior high and high school students. Hopefully he can WAKE THEM UP before they get to voting age.

I would vote for him again if he ran though. He is a statesman and everyone else on the stage are politicians through and through.
 
Might as well try. Who cares if he'll be 80? Last time I checked, there wasn't a maximum age requirement to run for president.
 
Personally, I really do not get this whole “scoring points” mantra. I mean, who is Mitt Romney, really? Ron Paul has well-established himself in the federal circuit, thus, is it not Mitt Romney (and for that matter the entire GOP) who should be endorsing Ron Paul and not the other way around?

After all, Ron Paul is not representative of some dopy Barney Frank closet imbecile, he is of both Mises quality intellect and worldly respectability.
 
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I hope some of you are joking. There some extremely delusional comment in this thread. He isn't running in four years. He did his job, he laid the groundwork. That's it he'll never be president. We should focus and try to agree on the next Ron Paul and start planning and donating money today. We need to get our butts in gear now and not cry over spilled milk. It's time to pass the baton to the next Ron Paul. So, who do we support next?
 
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Personally, I really do not get this whole “scoring points” mantra. I mean, who is Mitt Romney, really? Ron Paul has well-established himself in the federal circuit, thus, is it not Mitt Romney (and for that matter the entire GOP) who should be endorsing Ron Paul and not the other way around?

After all, Ron Paul is not representative of some dopy Barney Frank closet imbecile, he is Mises quality intellect.
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But what does any of that have to do with wasting another election season on someone who will not win. Sure..the chances of anyone else similar to Ron PAul winning in 2016 are very slim too..but it would be better to spend 2016 building for the future rather than looking to the past.

The next person other than Ron Paul to run will likely get somewhere between Ron Paul 2008 and Ron Paul 2012 numbers their first time running. I don't care who it is. The gains made by Ron Paul will help, but the fact that he ISN'T Ron Paul will hurt. However that will happen whether Ron Paul runs in 2016 or not. No matter when it is, the next one will have to start almost all over. So...if that new person has to wait until 2020 to start, then the absolute soonest he can make an impact will be 2024.

Think of how far away that is. It is doubtful Ron Paul would be alive to see his predecessor build on his momentum if this were the case.


Karsten said:
However, I get the feeling that the system is pushing Romney. When was the last successful dark horse candidate? If you think Ron doesn't get coverage now, there would be nothing at all if it's against incumbent Romney.
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I think obviously this is only even up for debate (if at all) if Obama wins. I don't think there is ANYONE loopy enough to think that Ron Paul would even CONSIDER trying to beat an incumbent president in his own party Ron Paul is simply not that stupid as to think that he would be taken seriously if he tried.
 
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He's not running in 16. I don't want him to. It will kill him. I don't like seeing his supporters 'rape' him like this. He is not a fucking side show. The man is a human bean.

I will never forget what I learned from him or what he has given me personally but its getting time to move on.

Ron Will not be running for us in 4 years and Its best he doesn't. Its best he live out his life and KNOW we all love him and respect what he has given us and helped us with.

I say Liberty 2016 ... whoever fills that position.
 
Reading this thread makes me sad.

You guys just don't get it. We have to move past him.

In 60 years I will know who Ron Paul was. And I will not forget what he stood for.

Don't pump the well dry guys. Let him go.
 
Carehn said:
Reading this thread makes me sad.

You guys just don't get it. We have to move past him.

In 60 years I will know who Ron Paul was. And I will not forget what he stood for.

Don't pump the well dry guys. Let him go.
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+1

But long before 60 years gets here I'll be taking a dirt nap.
 
If he decides to run we'll back him no matter what, poeple will back him to the death, but it will be something he decides on regardless what we think his chances are, for me I don't think he'll run again simply because of his son. He'll want Rand to take over, I don't like Rand.

Me personally, the market chose gold over the last 5000years and we got that in Ron, he was the gold standard, lets give this Amash guy a go, apperantly he doesn't have a hope in hell against the sitting democrat, this is our kinda project, take on the impossible, lets rally behind this dude and remember he has what money can't buy, the craziest hard core die hard followers that this world has ever seen. I read the one MSM article where they think delusional Ron Paul followers think they in some kind of rag tag rebel army.. hahaha this is true, pick up the flag and face the enemy.
 
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