Ron Paul: I Have Not Decided If I'll vote Romney

[alucard13mmfmj]

the article is still on yahoo front page. i saw it late last night/early morning.

weird.

 

[jolynna]

If Ron Paul believes in what he has been preaching his whole career, voting for Romney shouldn't even be a consideration.

imo

 

[sailingaway]

If Ron Paul believes in what he has been preaching his whole career, voting for Romney shouldn't even be a consideration.

imo

He doesn't speak in absolutes. He never said he wouldn't go third party, either.

 

[parocks]

The object is to draw concessions out of Romney. You don't do that by saying that nothing he could do would ever win over your support.

The same is true with Ron Paul supporters. If Ron Paul supporters say that they won't vote for Romney, then Romney won't give Ron Paul supporters anything.

 

[erowe1]

If Ron Paul believes in what he has been preaching his whole career, voting for Romney shouldn't even be a consideration.

imo

What's the point of something not being a consideration? Even if something would be wrong to do, that doesn't make the mere considering of it wrong.

 

[jclay2]

The same is true with Ron Paul supporters. If Ron Paul supporters say that they won't vote for Romney, then Romney won't give Ron Paul supporters anything.

Why on earth would you want to do a deal with the very people that have brought this country down for the last 100 years? Do you realize, any deal will be broken and make paul supporters look like fools once the smoke clears. If you dance with the devil, don't come crying when you get burned.

I for one am very saddened by the whole compromise line that many in the movement have taken to. No good will come from it.

 

[erowe1]

Why on earth would you want to do a deal with the very people that have brought this country down for the last 100 years? Do you realize, any deal will be broken and make paul supporters look like fools once the smoke clears. If you dance with the devil, don't come crying when you get burned.

I for one am very saddened by the whole compromise line that many in the movement have taken to. No good will come from it.

Who said anything about a deal or compromising anything?

 

[dannno]

The object is to draw concessions out of Romney. You don't do that by saying that nothing he could do would ever win over your support.

+rep

 

[jolynna]

What's the point of something not being a consideration? Even if something would be wrong to do, that doesn't make the mere considering of it wrong.

EVEN "considering" exterminating other human beings without cause is, in my opinion, REALLY, REALLY wrong. What Obama has done & Romney proposes doing are no different than Hitler sending people to the "showers".

Over a million Iraqis and thousands of "our own" were SLAUGHTERED in Iraq. FOR NO REASON. NONE. We are still doing it in Afghanistan to prop up the corrupt and evil Karzai (for strategical position, oil contracts and oil lines and corporate interests). We are doing it in Yemen & Pakistan. American soldiers with missing arms and legs are being evacuated from military "pods" in Africa where "locals" are becoming "collateral damage" because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. All of the PROCEEDING, Romney not only EMBRACES, he has critiqued Obama for being such a SISSY.

Romney also not only STARTED the spy centers that have spread out all over the U.S., he OWNS spy centers. He's made no bones about wanting to turn the U.S. into MORE of a police state...read Romney's White Papers which advocates taking away people's legal right to privacy, their homes, property, trials and gives the government the authority to detain anyone forever.

YES...considering what Ron Paul has been preaching, Ron Paul shouldn't have to give even a SECOND of consideration to whether or not to vote for Mitt Romney. Any more than Ron Paul would consider voting for Obama.

His skin should be crawling and he should be ill over even the thought.

In my opinion.

(P.S. Do a search here under my user name if you doubt any of the accusations I've made against Romney. I've posted links here to Romney's "White Pages", a racist blueprint to how Romney intends for America to dominate the world. And to articles from Romney's own op-eds and to the New York Times and Wall Street Journal and Washington Post verifying Romney's advocacy toward "spying", his eavesdropping & warrantless searches, executive orders and power-grabbing while governor of Massachusetts and Romney's founding and owning "spy centers". )

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

What is there to consider (for Paul and especially his supporters) when we know full well what a Romney administration would do this country?

 

[sailingaway]

What is there to consider (for Paul and especially his supporters) when we know full well what a Romney administration would do this country?

Why should Ron show his hand before it is most strategically optimal to do so?

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Why should Ron show his hand before it is most strategically optimal to do so?

What does he realistically expect to come out of this? I know where you stand on the VP slot (I disagree with your position) but other than that, Romney will not come through on anything that Paul is pushing for (ending the wars, audit the Fed, civil liberties, etc).

 

[sailingaway]

Ron has a bunch of delegates going up before credentials committee.

I don't know that is it, but I also know I don't know everything.

I seriously doubt it would change his vote, but not committing might have him in a better place than committing for all I know.

 

[jolynna]

And NOBODY can say Romney is a fiscal conservative either. He set records for spending grabbing for federal dollars while governor of Massachusetts. And bragged about how he did it while in charge of the Olympics.

Romney ALSO intends to spend a TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR MORE on foreign adventurism and domestic spying than the $1.7 TRILLION, Obama has budgeted for 2013.

Why is there for Ron Paul to "think about" when Romney has SAID the above?

My own opinion.

 

[sailingaway]

And NOBODY can say Romney is a fiscal conservative either. He set records for spending grabbing for federal dollars while governor of Massachusetts. And bragged about how he did it while in charge of the Olympics.

Romney ALSO intends to spend a TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR MORE on foreign adventurism and domestic spying than the $1.7 TRILLION, Obama has budgeted for 2013.

Why is there for Ron Paul to "think about" when Romney has SAID the above?

My own opinion.

There might be consequences to coming out against Romney. He might want to save it for bigger impact at a later date with more media presence. Whatever.

 

[erowe1]

EVEN "considering" exterminating other human beings without cause is, in my opinion, REALLY, REALLY wrong.

Even if the result of your considerations is that you decide not to do it because it would be wrong?

Why do you think that?

 

[erowe1]

What is there to consider (for Paul and especially his supporters) when we know full well what a Romney administration would do this country?

How do you know what a Romney administration would do if you've never given it any consideration?

 

[jolynna]

But, although the TRILLION EXTRA DOLLARS per year, for foreign adventurism and domestic spying is bad, as I have said in post after post after post, it is the part about "exterminating other human beings" for NO CAUSE where anyone and everyone HAS TO draw the line.

I feel like one of the German townspeople watching the Jews being led to the camps. The direction Obama and Romney are taking us is WRONG. It is unacceptable. It is immoral. We should be objecting to what BOTH of these men are proposing with all that we have. NOT talking about which of them is worse.

In my opinion.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

How do you know what a Romney administration would do if you've never given it any consideration?

I can look at his track record and the fact that he is lining up former Bush henchmen to work in his administration.

 

[erowe1]

And NOBODY can say Romney is a fiscal conservative either. He set records for spending grabbing for federal dollars while governor of Massachusetts. And bragged about how he did it while in charge of the Olympics.

Romney ALSO intends to spend a TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR MORE on foreign adventurism and domestic spying than the $1.7 TRILLION, Obama has budgeted for 2013.

Why is there for Ron Paul to "think about" when Romney has SAID the above?

My own opinion.

It's not just about thinking about anything. It's also about putting Romney in the position of having to care what we think.

I plan not to vote for Romney. But I don't see any point in saying 4 months ahead of time that there are no circumstances in which I would and nothing he could do to change my mind.