Ron Paul hit a home run on foreign policy in debate!

[abstrusezincate]

Yeah, his foreign policy answer was very good, but the bin Laden attack question undid all the good work.

 

[bpitas]

You are exactly right - this is an Achilles heel for Dr. Paul and he needs to NAIL this. In fact I think he might want to put out an official statement on it this week before the vote on Saturday. He should say exactly what you said above, although I think he might want to harp on the fact that if we *caught* OBL instead of killing him, we could have gotten intelligence that could stop future 9/11s, plus publicly hang OBL to discourage them like they did with Saddam.

I'm sorry, he explains the Bin Laden raid thing horribly, always has.

It's better to say concisely:

"There are two ways in the Constitution to handle enemies: Declaration of War and Letters of Marque and Reprisal"...at this point the crowd cannot boo, unless they boo the Constitution and he can say "Why are you boo-ing our Constitution?".

He can go on to say "We used neither method to go after Bin Laden. Also it's clear that we were lied to by the Obama Administration, and there was NEVER an assasination mission deployed. If we intended to kill him we would have launched a missle, logically. The mission was misrepresented by Obama to include a shootout that largely didn't happen and to say the entry point was not where it was...not to mention that there weren't any 'helmet-cams' ".

Lastly, if he had time, he could of said "So the mission was to, if possible, capture Bin Laden, according to the anonymous members of SEAL Team Six interveiwed in a book by a former SEAL. I was for that mission. I was not for the fabricated mission the Obama Administration LIED ABOUT which was to assasinate Bin Laden. That fabricated mission would of put SEALs lives in danger unnecessarily when a drone could of handled the mission just as well. I am for killing our enemies on battlefields and capturing them for intelligence reasons where able."

Ron Paul absolutely needs to answer that question about Bin Laden in a mirror a hundred times until he gets a satisfactory result...because as much I only support Paul and will NEVER vote for another Republican, he FAILS on that question because he never mentions the Constitution, the lie Obama and the other Repubs tell that it was an assasination mission to begin with, and that international law was violated, but IS NOT the reason he's against it. He's against it because international law mirrors the Constitution in that case!

 

[J_White]

this answer seemed good ! neocons may not have understood it, but hopefully some day they will !

 

[pacu44]

Yeah, his foreign policy answer was very good, but the bin Laden attack question undid all the good work.

They ask it every debate too...

 

[ProIndividual]

You are exactly right - this is an Achilles heel for Dr. Paul and he needs to NAIL this. In fact I think he might want to put out an official statement on it this week before the vote on Saturday. He should say exactly what you said above, although I think he might want to harp on the fact that if we *caught* OBL instead of killing him, we could have gotten intelligence that could stop future 9/11s, plus publicly hang OBL to discourage them like they did with Saddam.

I agree, except Ron Paul is against the federal death penalty...so he definately wouldn't of done a public execution (which I'm totally against even if they did execute him). But it's not about me...that being said, Ron wouldn't have executed him. In a way this may of been better anyhow..."I would not make a martyr out of him, I'd of let him rot in a cell as to not fulfill his non-sense prophecy for he and his followers"...that might of been the way Ron would of handled it (I'm wording it badly, but you know what I'm saying).

EDIT: and why not put him in Riker's Island in New York while we're at it? LOL. Joking...but it'd be nice for those in jail related to the victims to get a crack at OBL. They'd love to put him an pretty pink dress and do bad things to him...lol.

 

[XNavyNuke]

It was awful ... He really did flub that one up big time :/

Sometimes it pays to do three running plays and punt rather than lose the battle of field position. Its always ugly and pisses off the home crowd. That doesn't mean it wasn't the smart thing to do.

 

[XxNeXuSxX]

 

[cheeseman]

The important thing is that he got to explain the difference between military spending and defense spending. Also that he'd build more bases at home which negates the less jobs in SC.

Forgot if it was this part of the debate or not but he struck a chord with overseas spending by making the Baghdad embassy/Vatican comparison.

 

[pauliticalfan]

Ron Paul needs to know when to switch from "professor mode" to "red meat mode". Unfortunately, he doesn't know how. And that's why we're in trouble.

 

[idiom]

I can't believe the moderator was stupid enough to argue with him?!?

 

[CUnknown]

Come on guys, his OBL answer could have been better I suppose, but it was just fine. It sounded like they were going to boo regardless of what he said unless it was "KILL KILL BOMB DESTROY."

 

[doctorfunk]

Rand Paul 2016 lol. I love Ron Paul's message, demeanor, and honestly. But ultimately he's running to be the most influential politician in the world, and sometimes he needs to know when to be a little more political. Don't flip flop, don't compromise, and don't pander but he should know who his audience is and how to best convey his message.

 

[affa]

the polls will go up and the ridiculous negativity from some of you will once again be washed away like the santorum it is.

things that will be remembered:

1) solid answer on military vs. defense. solid rebuttal that it will actually add bases at home, not take them away.
2) zero income tax. zero inflation tax.
3) the 'boo' heard round the world. booing the Golden Rule will face backlash.

we're winning.

 

[libertythor]

3) the 'boo' heard round the world. booing the Golden Rule will face backlash.

Yes. I agree that the boo didn't hurt him at all.

 

[SonofThunder]

Disagree. I think he rambled, confused people, and didn't make a clear and concise point. He blew it, in my opinion. His tax answer was great: got across the principle, and was clear, concise, and motivating. The FP stuff was a train wreck.

 

[puppetmaster]

Fox News knows exactly where to go. He's gotta rehearse and answer for that, just like he's done for his foreign policy more generally. Something pity like "If I was president, he would've been dead ten years ago -- that's all I'll say."

yep......he needs to keep it a sound byte because he gets too caught up in the intellectual part of the response. loses all focus and the viewers, Faux knows this...so should Dr. Paul

Also, having lived in SC for some time I see they crowd was a stacked deck of SC folks that are the same ones that stay out Saturday nights at bars ( and private clubs ) get wasted, then are the first in line to vote for the blue laws.....

SC is a hotbed for simpletons IMHO

 

[pacelli]

Sic 'em Ron! This Thursday- sic 'em !!!!!

 

[singe22]

amazes me how peeople are ready to throw in the towel after just 2 primaries.