Ron Paul hints at Indie Run!

[TruthAtLast]

F Yourself cause thats all the good you can possibly do.

Let us all vote for the lesser of evil, we have to push him to run. Go ahead throw your vote away and vote for any of the globalists. Damn this pisses me off. No Ill will but damn, you must not want to change a thing. What other option do we have.

i see your point, but you act as if the entire Movement hinges on the ability to get Ron Paul the presidency. That is the problem. This Movement may span YEARS, in fact maybe SEVERAL election cycles. RP has acknowledged this. But there are many ways to take back a country and influence policy so the answer to "what other option do we have" is that we have many, many, many options.

Of course we should support Ron Paul. If he decided to run as an Independent or 3rd party, then yes he would be the best choice to vote for and even if he couldn't win, it is still one more step forward. However, he has said over and over and over again that he WILL NOT RUN. We aren't making this up, this is coming from HIM. Yet there are these people that seem to think they can force him to run. Heck, I can't even force him to return my emails or fix his LPAC website when I offer to do it for FREE!

We are moving in a hundred different directions and it doesn't really seem like a Movement at all. And this is the biggest criticism I have with Ron Paul's campaign strategy. Bottom up Movements NEVER EVER EVER work. Even when our own country revolted, it was our leaders that launched the Revolutionary War and everyone else followed.

Ron Paul is a brilliant man and a beacon of light for liberty and truth, but he really doesn't know how to run an effective National Campaign. But that is ok, we can't expect him to know everything. The problem is that he never hired the professionals that DO know how to run a National Campaign and win.

We need to organize, gather information, establish a massive Grassroots infrastructure with central leadership that doesn't control but at least provides strategic direction.

So THAT is the other option you have.

 

[jason43]

The short term should be getting candidates into the 30 or so retiring house seats the republicans are going to lose.

The long term should be getting another candidate into the lineup for 2012.

 

[TruthAtLast]

The short term should be getting candidates into the 30 or so retiring house seats the republicans are going to lose.

The long term should be getting another candidate into the lineup for 2012.

amen +1,000,000

 

[mketcher]

The short term should be getting candidates into the 30 or so retiring house seats the republicans are going to lose.

The long term should be getting another candidate into the lineup for 2012.

Yes, but as a presidential candidate, he could have a huge impact, even if he only got 5% of the vote. I think he could get more. If the economy continues to go to hell, he could get a lot more, because neither McCain, Hillary, or Obama are strong on economics.

But I digress. By running Third Party, he threatens to deny McCain (or whatever Republican ends up running) the presidency. The Republican establishment is terrified of Ron Paul. He can't announce his exact strategy right now. He needs to keep them terrified, so they don't know what he's going to do. By running Third party, he would also push the Republicans further towards his position. They would have to adopt more constitutionalist rhetoric and promises and platforms.

 

[Bro.Butch]

Yes, but as a presidential candidate, he could have a huge impact, even if he only got 5% of the vote. I think he could get more. If the economy continues to go to hell, he could get a lot more, because neither McCain, Hillary, or Obama are strong on economics.

But I digress. By running Third Party, he threatens to deny McCain (or whatever Republican ends up running) the presidency. The Republican establishment is terrified of Ron Paul. He can't announce his exact strategy right now. He needs to keep them terrified, so they don't know what he's going to do. By running Third party, he would also push the Republicans further towards his position. They would have to adopt more constitutionalist rhetoric and promises and platforms.

Friend, I beg to differ on the idea he will "deny" McCain the Presidency, John (BobDole2) McCain will never be POTUS. I believe Ron would actually take more votes from Democratic leaning voters. They are still ready to stop the war, preserve civil liberties, end the torture and straighten out our economy.

McCain at this late date has not even received a majority of his own Party's votes in the primaries. If you pay close attention to these televised events of McCain's there is NO enthusiasm what so ever, and Ron is still drawing more people even though he receives no MSM coverage. Notice how they never show a wide shot of McCain's crowds , Obama is drawing over 20.000 and blacked out Ron Paul from 4 to 7,000 enthusiastic FANS. Everyone needs to realize the "FIX" is on and has been from the start.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQCtn2jVwkQ&feature=related
Torture is Terror-Spread The Message

 

[mketcher]

Friend, I beg to differ on the idea he will "deny" McCain the Presidency, John (BobDole2) McCain will never be POTUS. I believe Ron would actually take more votes from Democratic leaning voters. They are still ready to stop the war, preserve civil liberties, end the torture and straighten out our economy.

McCain at this late date has not even received a majority of his own Party's votes in the primaries. If you pay close attention to these televised events of McCain's there is NO enthusiasm what so ever, and Ron is still drawing more people even though he receives no MSM coverage. Notice how they never show a wide shot of McCain's crowds , Obama is drawing over 20.000 and blacked out Ron Paul from 4 to 7,000 enthusiastic FANS. Everyone needs to realize the "FIX" is on and has been from the start.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQCtn2jVwkQ&feature=related
Torture is Terror-Spread The Message

Many conservatives, libertarian Republicans, and evangelical Republicans hate McCain. They have nowhere else to go besides Ron Paul in a Third Party. Dissatisfied Democrats can go to either Nader or Paul -- and some will undoubtedly go to each. At any rate, it doesn't so much matter whether or not Ron Paul has the ability to deny the Republicans the presidency. They're still terrified, because they believe that he has the power to deny them the presidency. Whether he actually does or not is a moot point -- we won't know that for sure until the election is over.