LibertyEagle
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Can someone write an article about Paul winning, so we have something to give to Drudge?
Ron Paul has WON the popular vote of the Virgin Islands (No BS, official GOP results)
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Now if someone wants to suggest we all move to the Virgin Islands and take over there instead of New Hampshire with the Free State Project then I'm down for this!
New Hampshire is too bloody cold for this Southern boy
I'm ok with whatever state except AK and ND. But I sure as hell wouldn't mind the US Virgin Islands
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So when Ron doesn't win the popular vote, he didn't win. And when he wins the popular vote but not the delegates, he also didn't win. Great reasoning, media. Keep up the good work.
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You can forget about the slightest self-sufficiency in the Virgin Islands. 85% of their business is tourism. Therefore, the USA would get mad we refused to bend over for them and destroy the tourism business, leaving the whole country in trouble. In New Hampshire, its very possible for self-sufficiency. Not that I consider self-sufficiency to be that great, but when the US fed hates you and is also in danger of collapsing it comes in handy. Without the threat of violence or outright murder by the US government, it would be a good idea.Now if someone wants to suggest we all move to the Virgin Islands and take over there instead of New Hampshire with the Free State Project then I'm down for this!
New Hampshire is too bloody cold for this Southern boy
Plus, NH already has the momentum, and has the cold weather needed to keep out the authoritarians once our economy is doing 4x better than everywhere else is now after we become a free state. Warm weather plus a good economy would send authoritarian pricks in by the swarmful after the success is had. I like being in a place where our success will be secure.
Edit: Plus, the Virgin Islands have a TINY fraction of their population of 100,000 who actually voted for Paul, whereas New Hampshire was the one and only state that had a statistically significant number of supporters as a percentage of the population.
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Free Territory Project?
I could probably handle the climate of the Virgin islands more so than the climate in New Hampshire.
I could probably handle the climate of the Virgin islands more so than the climate in New Hampshire.
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Curious why the pop vote win hasn't been posted on the official paul 2012 page. sorting through the mess?
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Ron Paul did not win the popular vote:
'130 Uncommitted (34%)" 130 uncommitted voters. A delegate in the Virgin Island represents a total number of votes. You know how members stay after the straw-poll to elect delegates to the convention? Well, only one delegate for Ron Paul won (which is why Ron Paul received 1 delegate). Mitt Romney's delegates were voted in for the convention after the straw poll. After the undecided vote was counted those delegates elected Mitt Romney, giving him one more delegate.
This was not about the popular vote. Yes, we could have won the popular vote–but not enough delegates who supported Paul were selected.
'130 Uncommitted (34%)" 130 uncommitted voters. A delegate in the Virgin Island represents a total number of votes. You know how members stay after the straw-poll to elect delegates to the convention? Well, only one delegate for Ron Paul won (which is why Ron Paul received 1 delegate). Mitt Romney's delegates were voted in for the convention after the straw poll. After the undecided vote was counted those delegates elected Mitt Romney, giving him one more delegate.
This was not about the popular vote. Yes, we could have won the popular vote–but not enough delegates who supported Paul were selected.
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So Paul gets more votes than any other candidate but he doesn't win the popular vote? Whatever.
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Now on off site:
RON PAUL WINS U.S. VIRGIN ISLAND CAUCUS
The media is reporting that Mitt Romney won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus when Ron Paul actually won the popular vote. Explains Business Insider’s Michael Brendan Dougherty in his piece:
“Ron Paul Just Won a Caucus But the Media is Telling you Mitt Romney Did”
Ron Paul won the GOP caucus in the Virgin Islands, or at least he won the most votes*according to the Virgin Islands Republican Party.*
Right now the count stands this way:
384 total cast
112 to Paul (29%) *
101 to Romney (26%)*
23 to Santorum (6%)
18 to Gingrich (5%)*
But as with all caucuses it isn’t that simple.
The*AP and others*reported yesterday that*Mitt Romney*won the Virgin Islands caucus.*
And they aren’t entirely wrong, because of the crazy rules that are around caucuses, Mitt Romney was able to *qualify for more delegates, and win them. One of the “uncommitted” delegates also went to Romney.
So maybe the media isn’t entirely unjustified in saying Romney won it.
But we think they buried the real story…*
It is the first territory where Paul has clearly beaten Romney in a popular vote…
Slate’s Dave Weigel also reports on the confusing/misleading reports that Romney won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus:
How did Paul get 11 more votes than Romney, but lose to him on delegates? It’s complicated. The Virgin Islands doesn’t portion out delegates by popular vote. Voters*literally elect delegates– the six with the most support get to go to Tampa.
Here’s the deal: If the popular vote is what means a candidate has “won” a primary or caucus, then Ron Paul unquestionably won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus, in the same way Santorum “won” Iowa, Romney “won” New Hampshire, Gingrich “won” South Carolina, etc.
But if actual delegate counts as “winning”–as the media is portraying Romney’s “win” in the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus–then this proves what our campaign has been saying all along: That Ron Paul stands to collect more delegates than anyone realizes despite where the other candidates finished in each state’s straw poll.
If the popular vote means you’ve won, then Ron Paul just won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus. If collecting delegates equals victory, then Paul stands to do well there too.
The media is trying to have it both ways with Romney and the Virgin Island Caucus while ignoring Ron Paul’s actual straw poll first place victory.
Not that media duplicity is ever of any surprise to Paul and his supporters.
RON PAUL WINS U.S. VIRGIN ISLAND CAUCUS
The media is reporting that Mitt Romney won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus when Ron Paul actually won the popular vote. Explains Business Insider’s Michael Brendan Dougherty in his piece:
“Ron Paul Just Won a Caucus But the Media is Telling you Mitt Romney Did”
Ron Paul won the GOP caucus in the Virgin Islands, or at least he won the most votes*according to the Virgin Islands Republican Party.*
Right now the count stands this way:
384 total cast
112 to Paul (29%) *
101 to Romney (26%)*
23 to Santorum (6%)
18 to Gingrich (5%)*
But as with all caucuses it isn’t that simple.
The*AP and others*reported yesterday that*Mitt Romney*won the Virgin Islands caucus.*
And they aren’t entirely wrong, because of the crazy rules that are around caucuses, Mitt Romney was able to *qualify for more delegates, and win them. One of the “uncommitted” delegates also went to Romney.
So maybe the media isn’t entirely unjustified in saying Romney won it.
But we think they buried the real story…*
It is the first territory where Paul has clearly beaten Romney in a popular vote…
Slate’s Dave Weigel also reports on the confusing/misleading reports that Romney won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus:
How did Paul get 11 more votes than Romney, but lose to him on delegates? It’s complicated. The Virgin Islands doesn’t portion out delegates by popular vote. Voters*literally elect delegates– the six with the most support get to go to Tampa.
Here’s the deal: If the popular vote is what means a candidate has “won” a primary or caucus, then Ron Paul unquestionably won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus, in the same way Santorum “won” Iowa, Romney “won” New Hampshire, Gingrich “won” South Carolina, etc.
But if actual delegate counts as “winning”–as the media is portraying Romney’s “win” in the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus–then this proves what our campaign has been saying all along: That Ron Paul stands to collect more delegates than anyone realizes despite where the other candidates finished in each state’s straw poll.
If the popular vote means you’ve won, then Ron Paul just won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus. If collecting delegates equals victory, then Paul stands to do well there too.
The media is trying to have it both ways with Romney and the Virgin Island Caucus while ignoring Ron Paul’s actual straw poll first place victory.
Not that media duplicity is ever of any surprise to Paul and his supporters.
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