"Ron Paul has low support with older caucus goers" who don't no he'd FUND Social Security

[airborne373]

If it wasn't short sighted, then it wouldn't get you in trouble.

short·sight·ed   
1. unable to see far; nearsighted; myopic.
2. lacking in foresight: a shortsighted plan.

I do not understand, please elaborate.

 

[JudeJenn]

The question is, how do you attract older voters without alienating your core base, the under 45s? Of course it can be done, and I think the best way is targeted direct mail. I don't say this often, but I trust the campaign on this one.

I agree, and in person whenever possible. Gather ye your facts on strong points of concern, social security, investments, etc. and take it to them in their own homes and communities. Another generalization, but this demographic (in my area of rural MT especially so) happens to be politically active and concerned, they vote!

 

[CaptUSA]

Listen,

You are not going to sway the older group to Ron Paul. That is just the truth. Trust me, when you are above 65, your mind is made. Nothing will ever change it. Forget it. Forget that vote and focus on anyone younger than that. Trust me.

This is just stupid. First off, you are putting people into a bucket based upon their age. Nice collectivist way of viewing the world. Second, I have had huge success exposing older people to Ron Paul. My 80 year old grandmother is on board. I've spoken to her friends at her retirement community and many of them like Ron Paul. They just don't know if he can beat Obama.

Sounds like the same thing I hear from every other age group. Why? Because people are individuals!!!!

 

[Travlyr]

short·sight·ed   
1. unable to see far; nearsighted; myopic.
2. lacking in foresight: a shortsighted plan.

I do not understand, please elaborate.

It's baloney. The simple truth is that as long as the mantra is old vs. young then that division makes it easier to keep the young from uniting with the old. Divide and Conquer.

 

[goldpants]

My dad turns 70, in a few weeks. He will vote Ron Paul just he did 4 years ago. But I will agree a lot of the seniors are MSM sheep.

 

[PastaRocket848]

well, at least the future looks a lot brighter for us than it does for the "old guard".

 

[LibertyEagle]

Listen,

You are not going to sway the older group to Ron Paul. That is just the truth. Trust me, when you are above 65, your mind is made. Nothing will ever change it. Forget it. Forget that vote and focus on anyone younger than that. Trust me.

No, I will NOT trust you. The statement you made is idiotic. Stop insulting the very voters we need to win over.

 

[Travlyr]

welfare/warfare systems profit the TPTB... not your uncle, aunt, granny or grandpappy.

The ROI on social security is horrible for most people.

 

[bobbyw24]

No, I will NOT trust you. The statement you made is idiotic. Stop insulting the very voters we need to win over.

Right--this shows that having a good deal of youth in this movement also means having too much immaturity and too many juvenile statements

 

[LibertyEagle]

My dad turns 70, in a few weeks. He will vote Ron Paul just he did 4 years ago. But I will agree a lot of the seniors are MSM sheep.

 

[airborne373]

It's baloney. The simple truth is that as long as the mantra is old vs. young then that division makes it easier to keep the young from uniting with the old. Divide and Conquer.

So you say it is "baloney" that there is a divide between younger voters and older voters? You say it is "short-sighted" to know the history of the administration of tyrannical governments?

I respectfully dis-agree with you.

 

[Travlyr]

So you say it is "baloney" that there is a divide between younger voters and older voters? You say it is "short-sighted" to know the history of the administration of tyrannical governments?

I respectfully dis-agree with you.

Your claim that the older generation clings to the welfare/warfare state for security is a bogus claim. That is a very weak argument. I don't buy it.

 

[Travlyr]

Perfect. Who are the real sheep?

 

[LawnWake]

Everyone is a sheep and a lot of people here are a sheep of Ron Paul. It doesn't matter.

Can someone get the ball rolling to make a pro-Ron Paul pamphlet about social security and all those entitlements people think he will get rid of specifically for the 55+ crowd? Short and to the point. We'll need to spam NH and Florida with those.

 

[Travlyr]

The point is: Lay to rest the false collective paradigms about people.

It's not: Rich vs. Poor; Old vs. Young; Men vs. Women; Right vs. Left; Conservative vs. Liberal; Red vs. Blue; Republican vs. Democrat

It's Honesty vs. Dishonesty; War vs. Peace; Real vs. Fake; Liberty vs. Tyranny; Truth vs. Lie.

 

[CaptUSA]

The point is: Lay to rest the false collective paradigms about people.

It's not: Rich vs. Poor; Old vs. Young; Men vs. Women; Right vs. Left; Conservative vs. Liberal; Red vs. Blue; Republican vs. Democrat

It's Honesty vs. Dishonesty; War vs. Peace; Real vs. Fake; Liberty vs. Tyranny; Truth vs. Lie.

Exactly! + rep

 

[Shane Harris]

My grandpap likes Romney, grandma likes Newt. They didn't want to talk about it though. dense indeed. My great aunt however is wonderful to talk to about politics. About 2 or 3 months ago she liked Cain (big surprise) but after a long car ride she said I had her leaning Paul

 

[LawnWake]

Naw, the point is to get Ron Paul elected. Why spend time and energy arguing about how to pigeonhole people with a fellow Ron Paul supporter on some thread that, at the end of the day, doesn't really matter, if you could band together and actually elect someone who's mear presence in the white house would do much more to sway the mass opinion on collectivism?

 

[vechorik]

When I saw the new ad: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...owa-and-N.-Hampshire!-quot-Machine-quot/page5

First thing I thought was "Wiah they'd include that he won't slash Medicare/SS etc (government assistance) as he cuts 1 trillion etc."

It has been known for YEARS that Dr. Paul is against these welfare programs. They need to know that HE WON'T CUT THEM IMMEDIATELY -- that he knows people depend on the money and there must be a very gradual change.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Folks, if you think the older voters get more of their news from the MSM, then that is all the more reason for you to be participating in the campaign's PHONE-FROM-HOME program. Are you? Have you also been going around your cities and towns doing lit drops, door-to-door?

If they don't see the truth about Ron Paul, how do you expect them to vote for him?

The answer begins with YOU.