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http://www.imperialjets.com/What-Ron-Paul-is-Missing.html
wow. lol. I hope they're not too busy at HQ to miss this offer!
wow. lol. I hope they're not too busy at HQ to miss this offer!
Ron Paul getting his own private jets
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American Assassination
Please read this book:
American Assassination
Book Description
Senator Paul Wellstone was, "the first 1960s radical elected to the U.S. Senate." In Senate Race 2002, the White House made defeating Wellstone priority #1. Karl Rove hand-picked arch Republican Norm Coleman to run against him. Despite massive funding, Coleman was trailing the popular Wellstone two weeks before election day.
Then, tragedy struck. On the morning of October 25th, 2002, Wellstone was killed after a mysterious communication cut-out and crash of his small aircraft. He died alongside his wife Sheila, their daughter Marcia, three staff members, and two pilots, while trying to land at Minnesota’s Eveleth airfield. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer insisted to his reporter at the scene that foul weather was the lethal factor in the crash, despite the statements to the contrary from the CNN correspondent. To this day, the public tends to blame the weather.
Ph.D. Professors James Fetzer and Don "Four Arrows" Jacobs present the harrowing truth. The plane was exceptionally airworthy. The weather didn’t bring down Senator Wellstone. Nor were the two pilots incompetent, as the report of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) would eventually claim.
The facts point elsewhere. The FBI arrived at the remote rural crash scene less than two hours after the crash. Could they have known about it in advance? The FBI forbade the ambulance and fire teams to take photos. Even the AP photographer on hand was intimidated, delayed and then highly monitored. For some reason, a member of the U.S. Capitol Police Dignitary Protection Division was also present.
Why did the FBI state that they were treating the site as a "crime scene" although there were "no indications of any criminal activity"? How could the FBI so very swiftly conclude and state publicly, before NTSB arrived, that there was "no evidence of terrorism" involved? Why did the NTSB search for a "black box" for a day and a half and then conclude that there hadn't been one, after all?
AMERICAN ASSASSINATION confirms the worst fears of a nation. Senator Paul Wellstone was murdered.
Both authors are decorated university professors. A Native American, Four Arrows (a.k.a. Dr. Don Jacobs) teaches educational leadership and is a staunch critic of US foreign policy. Dr. Jim Fetzer is a published expert on U.S. political assassinations and the logic of science.
Although no one can prove exactly what happened in the events leading to Wellstone’s death, these two Ph.D.s point out the official story’s inconsistencies and deliberate omissions. With a methodical argument, they present evidence of an official cover-up, a compelling motive for Wellstone’s assassination and advance a more likely explanation for how Senator Wellstone's plane was taken down. Their findings include new evidence and alternative hypotheses that were never considered by the NTSB:
• There was never any distress call from the pilots. Communication was somehow cut off shortly before the crash.
• NTSB’s Carol Carmody handled the Wellstone case. A former CIA official, Carmody is a damage-control expert who handled the NTSB’s investigation of the suspicious aircraft crash of Democratic Senatorial candidate Mel Carnahan, exactly two years earlier.
• NTSB is legally mandated to take jurisdiction over a crash scene, yet it allowed the FBI to control the scene--and then neglected to cite the FBI’s involvement in presence in the NTSB's final report.
• Some witnesses heard the engines cutting out, a phenomenon not consistent with a stall.
• Others reported odd cell-phone and garage-door phenomena that were taking place about the same time the plane lost both communications and control.
• The NTSB's own simulations, which replicated properties like those of King Air A-100s under similar conditions, were unable to bring the plane down—even when conducted under abnormally slow speeds!
• One of the members who actually signed the report, Richard Healing, admitted that they really had no idea what had caused the plane to crash.
Since becoming active in this issue, local residents have contacted Professor Fetzer and related strange electronic interference in the area at the time of the crash. One experienced an odd cell-phone phenomenon with a form of static he had never heard before. Its auditory pattern appears to be similar to that of "electro-magnetic pulse" (EMP) weapons recently developed by the Pentagon to jam the computer-assisted controls of enemy aircraft.
Reports of garage doors that mysteriously opened in the immediate vicinity are surfacing. And radar images from the time of the plane crashes of Senator Carnahan and of Senator Wellstone are suggestive of EMP imprints. These weapons not only jam a plane's electronics but also disable its radio communications.
In the wake of the crash, 69% of Minnesoteans blamed a "GOP Conspiracy" for Wellstone’s death. This book makes the case that, in this case, at least, the people had it right.
In appendices to AMERICAN ASSASSINATION, Paul Wellstone’s courageous stands against the rich and powerful continue to inspire us. It presents highlights from Wellstone’s platform and includes his important speech, "On Iraq."
His opposition to the Bush administration helps the reader to understand why the Senator was a likely target for assassination. When the reader meets Wellstone in his own words, his vision is kept alive and lives on in each of us.
From the Publisher
A meticulous, objective, and scientific analysis of the available relevant evidence that established beyond a reasonable doubt that this was no accident and explains why the death of Senator Paul Wellstone appears to have resulted from a political conspiracy.
"I'm for the little fellers, not the Rockefellers"
- Senator Paul Wellstone 1944 - 2002
Please read this book:
American Assassination
Book Description
Senator Paul Wellstone was, "the first 1960s radical elected to the U.S. Senate." In Senate Race 2002, the White House made defeating Wellstone priority #1. Karl Rove hand-picked arch Republican Norm Coleman to run against him. Despite massive funding, Coleman was trailing the popular Wellstone two weeks before election day.
Then, tragedy struck. On the morning of October 25th, 2002, Wellstone was killed after a mysterious communication cut-out and crash of his small aircraft. He died alongside his wife Sheila, their daughter Marcia, three staff members, and two pilots, while trying to land at Minnesota’s Eveleth airfield. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer insisted to his reporter at the scene that foul weather was the lethal factor in the crash, despite the statements to the contrary from the CNN correspondent. To this day, the public tends to blame the weather.
Ph.D. Professors James Fetzer and Don "Four Arrows" Jacobs present the harrowing truth. The plane was exceptionally airworthy. The weather didn’t bring down Senator Wellstone. Nor were the two pilots incompetent, as the report of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) would eventually claim.
The facts point elsewhere. The FBI arrived at the remote rural crash scene less than two hours after the crash. Could they have known about it in advance? The FBI forbade the ambulance and fire teams to take photos. Even the AP photographer on hand was intimidated, delayed and then highly monitored. For some reason, a member of the U.S. Capitol Police Dignitary Protection Division was also present.
Why did the FBI state that they were treating the site as a "crime scene" although there were "no indications of any criminal activity"? How could the FBI so very swiftly conclude and state publicly, before NTSB arrived, that there was "no evidence of terrorism" involved? Why did the NTSB search for a "black box" for a day and a half and then conclude that there hadn't been one, after all?
AMERICAN ASSASSINATION confirms the worst fears of a nation. Senator Paul Wellstone was murdered.
Both authors are decorated university professors. A Native American, Four Arrows (a.k.a. Dr. Don Jacobs) teaches educational leadership and is a staunch critic of US foreign policy. Dr. Jim Fetzer is a published expert on U.S. political assassinations and the logic of science.
Although no one can prove exactly what happened in the events leading to Wellstone’s death, these two Ph.D.s point out the official story’s inconsistencies and deliberate omissions. With a methodical argument, they present evidence of an official cover-up, a compelling motive for Wellstone’s assassination and advance a more likely explanation for how Senator Wellstone's plane was taken down. Their findings include new evidence and alternative hypotheses that were never considered by the NTSB:
• There was never any distress call from the pilots. Communication was somehow cut off shortly before the crash.
• NTSB’s Carol Carmody handled the Wellstone case. A former CIA official, Carmody is a damage-control expert who handled the NTSB’s investigation of the suspicious aircraft crash of Democratic Senatorial candidate Mel Carnahan, exactly two years earlier.
• NTSB is legally mandated to take jurisdiction over a crash scene, yet it allowed the FBI to control the scene--and then neglected to cite the FBI’s involvement in presence in the NTSB's final report.
• Some witnesses heard the engines cutting out, a phenomenon not consistent with a stall.
• Others reported odd cell-phone and garage-door phenomena that were taking place about the same time the plane lost both communications and control.
• The NTSB's own simulations, which replicated properties like those of King Air A-100s under similar conditions, were unable to bring the plane down—even when conducted under abnormally slow speeds!
• One of the members who actually signed the report, Richard Healing, admitted that they really had no idea what had caused the plane to crash.
Since becoming active in this issue, local residents have contacted Professor Fetzer and related strange electronic interference in the area at the time of the crash. One experienced an odd cell-phone phenomenon with a form of static he had never heard before. Its auditory pattern appears to be similar to that of "electro-magnetic pulse" (EMP) weapons recently developed by the Pentagon to jam the computer-assisted controls of enemy aircraft.
Reports of garage doors that mysteriously opened in the immediate vicinity are surfacing. And radar images from the time of the plane crashes of Senator Carnahan and of Senator Wellstone are suggestive of EMP imprints. These weapons not only jam a plane's electronics but also disable its radio communications.
In the wake of the crash, 69% of Minnesoteans blamed a "GOP Conspiracy" for Wellstone’s death. This book makes the case that, in this case, at least, the people had it right.
In appendices to AMERICAN ASSASSINATION, Paul Wellstone’s courageous stands against the rich and powerful continue to inspire us. It presents highlights from Wellstone’s platform and includes his important speech, "On Iraq."
His opposition to the Bush administration helps the reader to understand why the Senator was a likely target for assassination. When the reader meets Wellstone in his own words, his vision is kept alive and lives on in each of us.
From the Publisher
A meticulous, objective, and scientific analysis of the available relevant evidence that established beyond a reasonable doubt that this was no accident and explains why the death of Senator Paul Wellstone appears to have resulted from a political conspiracy.
"I'm for the little fellers, not the Rockefellers"
- Senator Paul Wellstone 1944 - 2002
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This made my day. Here's hopin' Ron accepts, and at the same time,
-Remember Paul Wellstone
-Remember Paul Wellstone
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Ron Paul is one of the few presidential candidates that does not fly by private jet because the campaign can't afford it yet, according to his campaign chairman, Kent Snyder. Congressman Paul's FEC April Quarterly Report reads that Ron Paul has raised about $640,000 so far. Once they have raised enough to get Paul's message across at lightning speed on a private jet, Snyder replied, "I hope we have that option." How about we help make that option a reality?
The Associated Press reported that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton disclosed $450,000 in private jet charter costs. Barack Obama, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and John Edwards have reported paying almost $910,000 in private jet charters. Ron Paul being uncensored on www.ImperialJets.com regardless of whether he uses our services: PRICELESS.
Aside from voting against regulating the internet - Like They Really Have the Power to do that Anyway - Ron Paul opposes FAA user fee increases on general aviation that propose to increase the cost of private jet travel. Congressman Paul's Chief of Staff stated, "He always votes and speaks out against taking money out of trust funds when they are supposed to go for one purpose and using them for general government or purposes other than that for which they are collected."
FAA Administrator, Marion C. Blakey, stated that commercial airline travel accounts for "about 73 percent of the cost of the air traffic system." As I wrote on my prior syndication pertinent to this issue, the FAA admits that "Most general aviation flights - private jet charter flights - arrive and depart at fixed based operators with low air traffic activity that don't require or use FAA or FAA contracted air traffic control services."
Then why exclusively charge general aviation an additional 56.4 cent common fuel tax rate due to projected industry growth in the commercial airline sector too?
The FAA states: "Unlike a discrete user fee, which can easily be set at different levels based on the type of facility used, it would be administratively burdensome to charge different fuel tax rates based on the facilities used." So charge us just because you don't want to put another clerk on the payroll? What happened to job creation?
The FAA further refutes opposition to their proposal citing that a 5% increase in operation costs of private jet flights will not ruin general aviation. On a FAA fact sheet structured to explain their proposal the FAA states that a general aviation flight from Teterboro, New Jersey to Tampa, Florida will cost an additional $600 commensurate to an estimated $13,000 in flight operation.
Mike Dever, who sponsors a social-network movement to oppose general aviation user fees on www.youchoose.net, states that the FAA just wants to have small increases approved so they can charge general aviation more in the future. Dever argued that instead of being charged $20 for using airspace surrounding commercial airports, the FAA will have more leverage to increase that fee to $200 in the future. Dever concluded, "I just see it as a terrible precedent that gets set."
Lets help his campaign take flight - by private jet charter of course - gathering support for Congressman Ron Paul in 2008. Once a few million get an email coming from us, he'll get the news coverage that'll raise the funds to level out the playing field.
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I am Neal Rodriguez, with Imperial Jets, out of New York City. We have some private aircraft at our disposal, and I wanted to know if Congressman Ron Paul would be interested in being flown by private jet on our dime. We can arrange private jet travel to a destination on the campaign trail if he finds it appropriate.
We are most supportive of Ron Paul’s stand on limited government; particularly his opposition to FAA User Fees which surprisingly gathered considerable positive feedback and has helped spread the word on Ron Paul’s bid for the presidency
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Commercial airline travel accounts for 73%.. this guy runs a private jet company... he pays more for fuel then the commercial airlines... he supports ron paul for ending the legislation. makes sense to me.
The Associated Press reported that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton disclosed $450,000 in private jet charter costs. Barack Obama, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and John Edwards have reported paying almost $910,000 in private jet charters. Ron Paul being uncensored on www.ImperialJets.com regardless of whether he uses our services: PRICELESS.
Aside from voting against regulating the internet - Like They Really Have the Power to do that Anyway - Ron Paul opposes FAA user fee increases on general aviation that propose to increase the cost of private jet travel. Congressman Paul's Chief of Staff stated, "He always votes and speaks out against taking money out of trust funds when they are supposed to go for one purpose and using them for general government or purposes other than that for which they are collected."
FAA Administrator, Marion C. Blakey, stated that commercial airline travel accounts for "about 73 percent of the cost of the air traffic system." As I wrote on my prior syndication pertinent to this issue, the FAA admits that "Most general aviation flights - private jet charter flights - arrive and depart at fixed based operators with low air traffic activity that don't require or use FAA or FAA contracted air traffic control services."
Then why exclusively charge general aviation an additional 56.4 cent common fuel tax rate due to projected industry growth in the commercial airline sector too?
The FAA states: "Unlike a discrete user fee, which can easily be set at different levels based on the type of facility used, it would be administratively burdensome to charge different fuel tax rates based on the facilities used." So charge us just because you don't want to put another clerk on the payroll? What happened to job creation?
The FAA further refutes opposition to their proposal citing that a 5% increase in operation costs of private jet flights will not ruin general aviation. On a FAA fact sheet structured to explain their proposal the FAA states that a general aviation flight from Teterboro, New Jersey to Tampa, Florida will cost an additional $600 commensurate to an estimated $13,000 in flight operation.
Mike Dever, who sponsors a social-network movement to oppose general aviation user fees on www.youchoose.net, states that the FAA just wants to have small increases approved so they can charge general aviation more in the future. Dever argued that instead of being charged $20 for using airspace surrounding commercial airports, the FAA will have more leverage to increase that fee to $200 in the future. Dever concluded, "I just see it as a terrible precedent that gets set."
Lets help his campaign take flight - by private jet charter of course - gathering support for Congressman Ron Paul in 2008. Once a few million get an email coming from us, he'll get the news coverage that'll raise the funds to level out the playing field.
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I am Neal Rodriguez, with Imperial Jets, out of New York City. We have some private aircraft at our disposal, and I wanted to know if Congressman Ron Paul would be interested in being flown by private jet on our dime. We can arrange private jet travel to a destination on the campaign trail if he finds it appropriate.
We are most supportive of Ron Paul’s stand on limited government; particularly his opposition to FAA User Fees which surprisingly gathered considerable positive feedback and has helped spread the word on Ron Paul’s bid for the presidency
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Commercial airline travel accounts for 73%.. this guy runs a private jet company... he pays more for fuel then the commercial airlines... he supports ron paul for ending the legislation. makes sense to me.
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Chartering private jets, is one of the things that broke McCain's campaign. It doesn't seem like a smart way to spend the small amount of money RP's campaign has.
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They said they'd pay for (most of) it.
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My thoughts as before easier to cover up private than commercial. But both can be done though. JFK Jr. a thought. Commercial makes Ron look part of the people. Could make it all first class.
But none the less a noble offer.
But none the less a noble offer.
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Too good to be true. Don't accept. Ron Paul is going up against some big beasts who'd love to see him wiped off the face of the earth in some "accident" if it means they get to keep their dirty money and power. Sometimes a little paranoia is necessary.
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I can't believe you guys are so scared. Maybe we should have had 4 metal detectors and 10 police at Ron's rally in Iowa, like the original forum had. I think we all know there was 1 and 1.
I don't see why people don't understand that a Ron Paul presidency greatly helps this man and his business as well, just like all of us. What if it was me with a private jet company? Would you be saying it's a death trap still?
I dunno.. w/e... for anyone not so scared on the idea, it's a cool idea.
I don't see why people don't understand that a Ron Paul presidency greatly helps this man and his business as well, just like all of us. What if it was me with a private jet company? Would you be saying it's a death trap still?
I dunno.. w/e... for anyone not so scared on the idea, it's a cool idea.
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Makes him appear as more of an elite than one of us.
It's not the jet company I'm worried about. It's the fact it's easier to cover up a private plane "accident" than a commercial. It's not being scared, it's being careful, just think about how many accidents there are on private jets compared to commercial.
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What if it was me with a private jet company? Would you be saying it's a death trap still?
I dunno.. w/e... for anyone not so scared on the idea, it's a cool idea.
I don't think the posters here are scared because of the OWNER. They are just pointing out that theoretically it would be easier to cause an accident/cover-up of a private jet vs. a commercial jet with hundreds of passengers/victims.
I like the offer and it shows that "small" businesses would have a LOT to gain from a Ron Paul presidency. Moreso than the huge corporations that can just buy off support at the federal level and not have to deal with buying-out state legislatures.
If Ron Paul accepted the offer, I would hope his campaign would put out a press release announcing it and explaining how it was not an example of him selling out. It would be a hell of a press release though..... I dont see any similar offers for other "2nd tier" candidates.
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I believe it is illegal for the owner of the aircraft to donate the use of it to a candidate. I think that the candidate must pay the aircraft owner the price of what the fare would be on a commercial craft. Obviously the owner would still be donating a considerable amount.
With that said, I too think it would be a bad idea for Ron Paul to accept. I am not a trusting person. I do not mean to disparage the owner of the aircraft or his offer. The owner of the aircraft will not be able to monitor it 24/7 to guarantee no one has tampered with it.
I just feel that Ron Paul is safer flying with hundreds of other people on a commercial flight.
With that said, I too think it would be a bad idea for Ron Paul to accept. I am not a trusting person. I do not mean to disparage the owner of the aircraft or his offer. The owner of the aircraft will not be able to monitor it 24/7 to guarantee no one has tampered with it.
I just feel that Ron Paul is safer flying with hundreds of other people on a commercial flight.
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Yes, I realize that, but I thought someone also mentioned that we should keep donating so that he could use private planes in the future. I agree that we should keep donating, but I don't agree that using private planes is a good move. They are way too expensive, with exception of this ONE flight, in which the owner is offering ONE TRIP for free.
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whoa....
Definitely NO to the private jet.
Riding in a commercial airline is not only cost-efficient, but gives him an opportunity to talk to whoever is on the plane at the time, and will keep him safer for the long term. If the govt wanted to off the doctor, they'd have to find a better way of doing it or take a whole plane of american citizens down with them.
NO NO NO to the private jet. Thanks for the offer, but NO.
Definitely NO to the private jet.
Riding in a commercial airline is not only cost-efficient, but gives him an opportunity to talk to whoever is on the plane at the time, and will keep him safer for the long term. If the govt wanted to off the doctor, they'd have to find a better way of doing it or take a whole plane of american citizens down with them.
NO NO NO to the private jet. Thanks for the offer, but NO.
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Unfortunately, tampering isn't even necessary when you're talkin scalar waves
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