Ron Paul Gets 3 National Delegates from WV

I can't believe people are complaining. We bumped Huckabee to first which spreads the GOP further apart, and in addition we got 3 delegates. That's a lot better then McCain winning and us getting 0 delegates...

FFS people.
 
Okay, good job.

It is a shame to have to do the politics thing like this, but until you get the power to be at the top, you have to play the stupid game. At the top, changes can then be made.
 
Right! Originally Ron Paul only had 1.7 or 1.3 (around 10%) delegates, but he was in last place. He had to make a deal with someone and had to vote for someone else since he was in last palce. They chose Huck over Romney and got 3 delegates in return for 17% of the delegates.

Huckabee 15 delegates
Paul 3 delegates 17%
Romney 0 delegates
McCain 0 delegates

Is that close to being correct?
 
All 18 has to vote for Huckabee in the first round, then all deals after the first round. But the worst is that Huckabee is just in as McCains man to split up the votes. The only hope for a broken convention was that Romney got enough deegates to keep fighting, the "Ron Paul supporters" stopped that and McCain will probably secure the nomination tonight. Well done!
 
All 18 has to vote for Huckabee in the first round, then all deals after the first round. But the worst is that Huckabee is just in as McCains man to split up the votes. The only hope for a broken convention was that Romney got enough deegates to keep fighting, the "Ron Paul supporters" stopped that and McCain will probably secure the nomination tonight. Well done!

You are right I think about the delegate voting but I think you misinterpret the rest.

The delegates keep both Romney and McCain from getting the needed delegates for a "lock". As far as how Romney will do everywhere else, do you have a crystal ball that you aren't sharing?
 
You are right I think about the delegate voting but I think you misinterpret the rest.

The delegates keep both Romney and McCain from getting the needed delegates for a "lock". As far as how Romney will do everywhere else, do you have a crystal ball that you aren't sharing?

Don't need it. Romney will need all delegates to stay in the race, and when we give the delegates to McCain/Huckabee ticket you don't need a crystal ball to understand what will happend.
 
looks like we gave some to huck and some to romney. maybe in another caucus state we'll give romney a win over huckabee. we have to play this one very carefully for any chance as a repub. I think we despise all of these folks equally in a political sense and must play one off of the other perfectly to win (very thin margins of error).
 
This is the first example of the Ron Paul bloc being "king maker". It will be harder to argue that Ron Paul does not affect the race, or does not matter, etc.

I'm just glad McInsane didn't win.
 
The AP is quoting Huck's spokesman as denying a deal. I'm willing to give this a news cycle to settle down, though. There's a lot going on tonight and communication in the campaigns won't be efficient.
 
Were any of you at the convention

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of the deal? Huckabee is denying it.
 
well done dumbasses .....now debate me if the 3 delegates were worth it.....ughh

you dimwits gave huckashmuck the momentum....
 
well done dumbasses .....now debate me if the 3 delegates were worth it.....ughh

you dimwits gave huckashmuck the momentum....

Isn't the end goal here to try and win an election? You can keep being idealistic and pretend the system doesn't exist or you can work within the system for change. That is what I and my fellow WV Ron Paul supporters did today. What did you do beside bitch and moan about us securing 3 national delegates and keeping McRomney from getting any?

Just my opinion. And for the record, it's just as worthless as yours.
 
paul revered,aperatti, shed, Mr zach, bruce for ron, rebel resource.........

just watched schmuckabee saying that none of the ron paul and mcaine supporters gave him the 18 delegates...he won all of them...oh he was soooooo smug....and yes he gained a lot of momentum from WV....so guys wtf do you have to say now.....

obviously you will not reply....
 
paul revered,aperatti, shed, Mr zach, bruce for ron, rebel resource.........

just watched schmuckabee saying that none of the ron paul and mcaine supporters gave him the 18 delegates...he won all of them...oh he was soooooo smug....and yes he gained a lot of momentum from WV....so guys wtf do you have to say now.....

obviously you will not reply....

It doesn't matter what Huckabee says and I personally don't expect the media to cover the intricacies of what happens with the delegates. They haven't in any state yet, and they most definitely won't when it is beneficial to Dr. Paul. Huckabee doesn't have control over the delegates. They are individuals that have been selected. A deal was reached with some of these individuals for them to appoint Ron Paul delegates as alternates. Please, if you don't know what you are talking about, stop wasting peoples' time. If it gave Huckabee momentum, that is still a plus for us. The more divided this race remains, the easier it is to work towards a brokered convention. The media WILL NOT cover Ron Paul in any positive way. We know this much already. As I said before, we need to work within this broken system to change it.
 
Isn't the end goal here to try and win an election? You can keep being idealistic and pretend the system doesn't exist or you can work within the system for change. That is what I and my fellow WV Ron Paul supporters did today. What did you do beside bitch and moan about us securing 3 national delegates and keeping McRomney from getting any?

Just my opinion. And for the record, it's just as worthless as yours.

well it pisses me off when I go out and canvass and tell the difference between huckaboo and Ron ....and come back to see idiots have given their support to the idiot....

I was never in this for a win as even an idiot could tell the avg american joe will not get the message of the economy and nonintervention..... its NOT about winning...don't get me wrong ....its having the message conveyed to the Americans....who would have watched "freedom to fascism' before Ron...who would have questioned the media...I would have been called a kook....its the start of a struggle.....and if the three delegates will make a difference by compromising on priniciple then great...

go believing in the brokered convention...sigh when will you realize that paul himself was not in this for the win(yes that it would be good) but what he wanted was ppl to take their head out of their asses....and I am glad a lot have...
 
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I was there, coordinating the volunteers. The offer was made, Huckabee's WV coordinator told the entire delegation when they upped the offer to 3, he offered to be the third.

It is very possible the Huck camp either doesn't want to admit it since they didn't offer Mccain delegates, or the national didn't know the state people made the offer.

Either way, the offer was made. We didn't trust either one since this is politics, but at least the Huckabee people came and talked to us, Romney guys never came to talk to the actual delegates, just the campaign staff.

The huckabee delegation said the had 2 people registered as national delegates that weren't going to be able to go to MN, and they found a third person.

Campagin staff had nothing to do with the decision, they left it up to us. The vote was unanimous.
 
well it pisses me off when I go out and canvass and tell the difference between huckaboo and Ron ....and come back to see idiots have given their support to the idiot....

I was never in this for a win as even an idiot could tell the avg american joe will not get the message of the economy and nonintervention..... its NOT about winning...don't get me wrong ....its having the message conveyed to the Americans....who would have watched "freedom to fascism' before Ron...who would have questioned the media...I would have been called a kook....its the start of a struggle.....and if the three delegates will make a difference by compromising on priniciple then great

Try to understand, this was a caucus style convention, we voted for Paul. We didn't have enough to win.

We could have all walked out, and shut out every WV GOP activist in the state and it would have ruined our chances at getting votes in the next primary. We have another primary in May for 9 more delegates.

It's not about winning, it's about getting the message out, this was the best path to get some sort of representation at the national convention.

And Huckabee people will be easier to convert than Romney people if he drops out before the nationa convention.
 
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