"Ron Paul Excluded in Iowa"

From Lew Rockwell blog:
(I still have not yet seen an official internet confirmation that these companies are co-sponsors)
Here's what it says:

http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/013627.html#more

June 19, 2007
Iowa Forum Co-Sponsors: Let Them Know
Posted by Eric A. Garris at June 19, 2007 10:11 PM

In case anyone missed it, the Iowa Presidential Candidates Forum is being co-Sponsored by: Coldwell Banker Mid America Group Realtors, FairTax.org, Krishna Engineering Consultants, Inc., and Light Expressions by Shaw.

Remember to be nice when you call. These companies are just co-sponsors of the forum, which means the company probably just forked over some money to have their name show up on the brochure and have some advertising at the debate. The person who answers the phone will likely be a sales clerk or the store manager and likely won't know what the hell this is all about. So be nice. But do call, and politely inform them that their company is a co-sponsor of the event, and the event sponsors have decided to exclude a very important candidate - Ron Paul. We want to put as much pressure on the decision makers as possible - this means putting pressure on them, as well as having the cosponsors put the pressure on them too. But again, be polite.

Click more for contact info.

Thanks to Mike Nystrom at The Daily Paul

Coldwell Banker
515-224-3600

Chairman and CEO.
[email protected]

President and Chief Operating Officer
[email protected]

President
[email protected]

President, Mid-America Commercial Real Estate
[email protected]

Vice President, Strategic Development
[email protected]

Vice President, Property Management
[email protected]

Vice President and Controller
[email protected]

Vice President, Business Development
[email protected]

Director of Strategic Marketing, Mid-America Group
[email protected]

Vice President IT, Coldwell Banker, Mid-America Group
[email protected]

Paul Clowser
Business Analyst
[email protected]


FairTax.org

Phone: 713-963-9023
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Light Expressions by Shaw
[email protected]

Three locations:

930 E. River Drive
Davenport, IA 52803
563-323-3611

1100 5th Street #100
Coralville, IA 52241
319-358-8311

750 Alice's Road
Waukee, IA 50263
515-987-3808

Krishna Engineering Consultants Inc
1454 30th St West Des Moines
IA 50266-1305
515-224-6300
 
Is that stuff about churches may host candidates provided all of them are offered the opportunity to speak JUST the rules for this one group, or...

Is that "the law" in Iowa?

Anyone know?

Because if it's the LAW that every candidate must be offered the SAME opportunity to speak, then....
 
I just called Krishna Engineering Consultants politely asking if they were co-sponsoring the presidential forum, and was told that the person I would have to talk to would be Gopal Krishna, and that Mr. Krishna is not there this morning but is expected to return late this afternoon or tomorrow, and that I should call back then at their number which is 515-224-6300. The person did not give me an email address. I recommend waiting until around 4pm Central time to call them. Whoever calls first, might want to first thing politely ask for their fax number.
 
I poked around at the site and here is a link to what their own website says re: rules for involvment in politics:

http://iowachristian.com/politics.htm

It's applicable to churches, though, and this group certainly isn't a church, so I would imagine that they don't have to follow the same rules.
 
The Iowa Christian Alliance a non-profit organization that seeks to make a difference in the public arena regarding the issues that matter most. We stand for integrity in government, high moral values, constitutional authority, and Christian principles. Our purpose is to educate and influence voters and politicians to keep their commitment to both liberty and law; that America may continue to be one nation under God. We are not tied to any political party. We were formerly the Christian Coalition of Iowa.
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Only in their favor of course.

http://www.iowachristian.com/ica.html
 
Make sure ALL of your correspondences to these people are nice. I have received feedback from one of the co-sponsors that he says he received some "hate calls", and that the two top sponsoring organizations are declaring that they are receiving "hate" calls and "hate" mail.

Don't let this backfire. What would Ron Paul do? Be nice, professional, honest, and straightrforward.

I just spoke with Mr. Steve Shaw, manager of the Coroville Store, of the Waukee Branch of Light Expressions by Shaw. Mr. Shaw did confirm that his company had contributed to be a co-sponsor of the event.

Mr. Shaw displayed the courtesy of spending 5 minutes on the phone listening to me. He told me that he has already received a few calls, some of which he told me were "hateful." I calmly and respectfully explained to him the situation about these debates, about Ron Paul's success in the Internet polls and fundraising and network of volunteers, told him about the fact that only Ron Paul was excluded from this forum, told him the issues around the questionable legality of the tax exempt organization from excluding a candidate, how this appeared to violate the written policy of one of the organizations, how Dr. Paul is the leading proponent of tax relief and spending reduction in harmony of the purported goals of the Tax Relief organization, how there have been campaign contributions to other candidates by one of the sponsors, etc. I told him that there are thousands of Ron Paul supporters all over the country that are concerned that this reeks of political favoritism and shady practices to exclude Ron Paul, and that I suggested that if he issue a public statement saying that he urgest the sponsors to include Ron Paul, he would be doing the right thing and that this would probably be a very good public relations move for him.

Mr. Shaw told me that he appreciated my being respectful and informative to him in my phone call to him, and he told me that he would take my advice "under consideration."

I think that if anybody else wants to express a similar opinion to Mr. Shaw, that they realize that:
1) You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
2) Nice is more effective than mean
3) Assertiveness is more effective than aggression.

So I hope nobody calls with "hate", but I think that if anybody else wants to try to persuade this store that I am not the only person that feels this way, they might want to consider calling him, but I suggest a very "nice" phone call....

My goal with them is for them to issue a written statement that they urge the sponsors to invite Ron Paul to this forum.
 
Again the contact for Steve Shaw, manager of Light Expressions by Shaw is:
Coralville, IA Branch
319-358-8311
Steve Shaw, Manager

In addition, I obtained an email address for this business. This would be to the owner, I believe the owner is related to Steve Shaw, and has a last name of Shaw.
Owner: Mr. Shaw - Email – [email protected]
 
I don't know if this info was already posted, but:

One of the business co-sponsors, Krishna Engineering Consultants, with questions being directed to Gopal Krishna:
This same person, Gopal Krishna, was reported on this thread to be listed as the State Finance Chairman for the Iowa Christian Alliance.

Mr. Krishna's contact info at Iowa Christian Alliance was reported to be
Iowa Christian Alliance - State Finance Chairman -
Gopal Krishna
515-975-8771
[email protected]

At his place of business, his contact information is:
Krishna engineering –
Krishna Engineering Consultants Inc
1454 30th St
West Des Moines IA 50266-1305
Phone: 515-224-6300
At the business phone number, the person who answered told me that Mr. Gopal Krishna is expected to be in the office either later this afternnon or tomorrow.
 
The 'hate' stuff is just rhetoric coming from our enemies to try and discredit us. Let's smother them with love.
 
jj111 said:
Make sure ALL of your correspondences to these people are nice. I have received feedback from one of the co-sponsors that he says he received some "hate calls", and that the two top sponsoring organizations are declaring that they are receiving "hate" calls and "hate" mail.

Don't let this backfire. What would Ron Paul do? Be nice, professional, honest, and straightrforward.

I just spoke with Mr. Steve Shaw, manager of the Coroville Store, of the Waukee Branch of Light Expressions by Shaw. Mr. Shaw did confirm that his company had contributed to be a co-sponsor of the event.

Mr. Shaw displayed the courtesy of spending 5 minutes on the phone listening to me. He told me that he has already received a few calls, some of which he told me were "hateful." I calmly and respectfully explained to him the situation about these debates, about Ron Paul's success in the Internet polls and fundraising and network of volunteers, told him about the fact that only Ron Paul was excluded from this forum, told him the issues around the questionable legality of the tax exempt organization from excluding a candidate, how this appeared to violate the written policy of one of the organizations, how Dr. Paul is the leading proponent of tax relief and spending reduction in harmony of the purported goals of the Tax Relief organization, how there have been campaign contributions to other candidates by one of the sponsors, etc. I told him that there are thousands of Ron Paul supporters all over the country that are concerned that this reeks of political favoritism and shady practices to exclude Ron Paul, and that I suggested that if he issue a public statement saying that he urgest the sponsors to include Ron Paul, he would be doing the right thing and that this would probably be a very good public relations move for him.

Mr. Shaw told me that he appreciated my being respectful and informative to him in my phone call to him, and he told me that he would take my advice "under consideration."

I think that if anybody else wants to express a similar opinion to Mr. Shaw, that they realize that:
1) You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
2) Nice is more effective than mean
3) Assertiveness is more effective than aggression.

So I hope nobody calls with "hate", but I think that if anybody else wants to try to persuade this store that I am not the only person that feels this way, they might want to consider calling him, but I suggest a very "nice" phone call....

My goal with them is for them to issue a written statement that they urge the sponsors to invite Ron Paul to this forum.
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under consideration = gets you to hang up =/

i would like to think he actually means it...but thats what you would normally say when you just want to stop talking to someone.
 
I just found out the business phone number for Mr. David Stanley, a name which appears to be the Chairman of the Iowans for Tax Relief on their webpage
http://www.taxrelief.org/directors.htm

The business phone number is 563-264-8080, and then you ask for Mr. David Stanley. Then Mr. Stanley's receptionist answered the phone, and I was put onto Mr. Stanley's voiceline, at which point I gave my name and phone number and told him that I wanted to write a story on the Presidential Forum and wanted to ask him a question and asked him to call me back. It appears that Ron Paul supporters have not yet inundated this phone number or his voicemail, which was very refreshing, as I was able to get my message in with no problem.
 
Hard for me to stay nice and all so I will leave the actuall phone calling to people with more self control.
 
It's not hard to be civil. I just say "My name is ####, and I am calling to express my displeasure that Ron Paul is not being invited to the June 30th debate. Is there any way that you might be convinced to reconsider this decision?"

If they say no, then just say that you are very sorry to hear that, because Ron Paul stands for <enter platform plank of your choice here> and you think that the taxpeyers in Iowa would be very interested to hear his plan.

Then say thank you, and goodbye.
 
angeltac, that's pretty much what I've been doing. I've made about 15 phone calls since I got the initial email about RP's exclusion, and by being polite, almost all of them have carried their message to at least partially willing ears.

Then "honey vs vinegar" analogy is very true here.
 
A good strategy is to ask them questions:
Do you know this...?
Are you aware of this.....?
Do you know why....?
Have you done this.......?
Would you consider doing this.......?
If done professioinally and politely it is a good way to communicate and get your points across.
 
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