"Ron Paul Excluded in Iowa"

[lucky]

I was wondering why Failor's being McCains man in Iowa would even matter as McCain is skipping the state completely and not even in the forum?

Strange.

 

[jj111]

I was wondering why Failor's being McCains man in Iowa would even matter as McCain is skipping the state completely and not even in the forum?

Strange.

The only candidate who has a record and message which would makes McCain's record and message pale in comparison would be Ron Paul.

 

[lucky]

Seems that the one who said that Steve Scheffler is trying to be a king maker was right.

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/romney/romneyorgia.html

Look at Joe Earle and Keith Hunter. Scheffler is forbidden to endorse anyone himself or the Organization actually but of course there are ways around this stuff. Also read where Mitt Romney is buddying up to the Slimeball. I am sure if there is a way to see who has "Donated" to this fine non profit organization it would be no surprise.

Also a couple of the other names seem familar but I am too tired to dig any deeper. Night.

 

[heiwa]

bumping...

Just wanted to bump Bryan's most excellent and comprehensive list of "who you gonna call?" list...

For those not wanting to read the first 25 pages here, here is a summary of interest:


Edward Failor
Iowans for Tax Relief
2610 Park Avenue
Muscatine, Iowa 52761
Phone: 563-288-3600 or 877-913-3600
Fax: 563-264-2413
E-mail: [email protected]

Steve Sheffler, President
Iowa Christian Alliance
939 Office Park Road, Suite 115
West Des Moines, Iowa 50265
Phone: 515-225-1515
Fax: 515-225-1826
E-mail: [email protected]


Chairman of Iowans for Tax Relief is Mr. David M. Stanley. He can be contacted via... 563-263-7203





not sure that Coldwell Banker link is gonna work

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Here's a list of Officers at Tax Relief, but still working on getting more email addys:

Dean Kleckner
Honorary Chairman

David M. Stanley
Chairman

Robert H. Solt
Vice Chairman

Cloyd E. Robinson
Vice Chairman

Jeffrey R. Boeyink
President

Edward D. Failor, Jr.
Executive Vice President

Edward D. Failor, Sr.
Senior Counsel

Peter E. Voorhees
Finance Chairman

Christopher W. Nichols
Information Services Director

Daniel G. Steele
Creative Services Director

Jamie D. Hopkins
Development Director

Kathleen M. Koberg
Public Relations Director

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Here are more emails for the Christian group:

President - Steve Scheffler
Treasurer/President of the Board - Morris Hurd [email protected]
State Finance Chairman - Gopal Krishna 515-975-8771 [email protected]
Director of Church and Community Development - Jessica Anderson [email protected]
Lobbyist - Norm Pawlewski [email protected]
Webmaster [email protected]

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PRESIDENTIAL FORUM SPONSORS #'S

Coldwell Banker Mid America Group (Des Moines, IA office) (800)225-7683
American's for Fair Taxation (and they're freaking based in Texas) 1-800-FAIRTAX




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The Steve Scheffler is away from his desk this week and will not be able to respond to your email. It is my understanding that these decisions are being made by Iowans for Tax Relief. Please direct your concerns to Katie Koberg at 515-875-4936 or [email protected]
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Since their e-mail server is tanked, I recommend sending faxes too.
Limit 2 faxes per person, but free.
http://faxzero.com/
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Hey folks, this might be an alternate contact # for Katie Koberg - I'm not sure. Report back if success. Thanks. 563-284-6796
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More info... Chairman of Iowans for Tax Relief is Mr. David M. Stanley. He can be contacted via...
563-263-7203
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Here are more emails for the Christian group:

President - Steve Scheffler

Treasurer/President of the Board - Morris Hurd [email protected]

State Finance Chairman - Gopal Krishna 515-975-8771 [email protected]

Director of Church and Community Development - Jessica Anderson [email protected]

Lobbyist - Norm Pawlewski [email protected]

Webmaster [email protected]

PRESIDENTIAL FORUM SPONSORS #'S

Coldwell Banker Mid America Group (Des Moines, IA office) (800)225-7683
American's for Fair Taxation (and they're freaking based in Texas) 1-800-FAIRTAX

The Steve Scheffler is away from his desk this week and will not be able to respond to your email. It is my understanding that these decisions are being made by Iowans for Tax Relief. Please direct your concerns to Katie Koberg at 515-875-4936 or [email protected]
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More info... Chairman of Iowans for Tax Relief is Mr. David M. Stanley. He can be contacted via...

563-263-7203

Here are more emails for the Christian group:

President - Steve Scheffler

Treasurer/President of the Board - Morris Hurd [email protected]

State Finance Chairman - Gopal Krishna 515-975-8771 [email protected]

Director of Church and Community Development - Jessica Anderson [email protected]

Lobbyist - Norm Pawlewski [email protected]

Webmaster [email protected]

PRESIDENTIAL FORUM SPONSORS #'S

Coldwell Banker Mid America Group (Des Moines, IA office) (800)225-7683
American's for Fair Taxation (and they're freaking based in Texas) 1-800-FAIRTAX

The Steve Scheffler is away from his desk this week and will not be able to respond to your email. It is my understanding that these decisions are being made by Iowans for Tax Relief. Please direct your concerns to Katie Koberg at 515-875-4936 or [email protected]
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http://www.petitiononline.com/rpwi2008/petition.html


http://www.digg.com/2008_us_electio...ns_for_Tax_Relief_and_Iowa_Christian_Alliance

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Reserve your Seat here for the IoWA debate which excludes Ron Paul..
go ahead make the reservation.
http://www.taxrelief.org/presidential_forum.htm
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This link may explain why Dr. Paul was not invited:
http://www.iowachristian.com/060107.htm
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Oh, this is priceless:
http://www.iowachristian.com/candidatestatements .htm

 

[LibertyEagle]

This link may explain why Dr. Paul was not invited:
http://www.iowachristian.com/060107.htm

I can't believe he's quoting Napolean, of all people.

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

5) If you are nearby and plan to come to the event please get your tickets to the event. http://www.taxrelief.org/presidential_forum.htm
Let's show'em the force of our numbers.

Great idea. If they take questions from the audience and half the questions are about why Ron Paul was excluded, that will entirely screw them up.

So if we can get a hundred Ron Paul supporters there, half of them can wear RP tshirts and carry signs, and the other half can pretend they're unbiased and ask questions in the forum. (They wouldn't take questions from anyone wearing a RP tshirt.)

 

[dspectre]

Guys,

I think there are some people in digg who are needlessly labeling RP stories as spam. I think that we may have to label other stories as spam to equalize the situation.

 

[Starks]

Mr. Failure, meet the angry army of teh intarwebz...

 

[heiwa]

Let's not forget that the ultimate goal is not to show these groups who's the boss (although it is almost sinfully delicious to do so) but rather to woo the Iowa voters to our cause.

Overrunning the event may not send the signal we're after. Should Dr. Paul not be included, I propose a different approach. If a lot of you are going, why not have some kind of party after the event. You don't have to tell the audience what it's for if you don't want to, but as they walk in, offer them a coupon for a free gift that they have to pick up after the event - a drink, dinner, and maybe have a raffle and the winner gets a free country!

My guess is that the people who attend the event will be 99% pre-chosen. I'm not sure what that means - perhaps they're community leaders that these groups are trying to woo. Perhaps they're already bought and paid for. But why not give them an alternative to the slick political types they're used to. You all would be so refreshing after the stale, hot air of this event.

Just my 2 cents.

Jen

 

[Starks]

Believe me, they'll cave eventually... They'll realize that excluding Ron Paul is not worth the inconvenience of having your email inbox crashed and every conceivable phone line jammed.

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Below is the About Us page from the Iowans site. Obviously they are not really about lowering taxes; none of the candidates they have included possess a track record for lowering taxes. Therefore this constitutes a fraud on the electorate of Iowa. The group has an IRS number and is clearly engaging in a fraud. Therefore they would lose their status as a PAC since provably none of the candidates they present can deliver the benefits they specify in their mission statement. Success in getting big government candidates elected conflicts with the expectations raised by their own words. This is fraud.

Ben Olson in Iowa is willing to file a law suit against Iowans for Tax Relief for fraud. Ben and his wife, Sylvia, live in Pocahantas and are old time Libertarians.

We are planning a news conference in front of their offices, service of the law suit, letters to the papers, state and national, and news releases.

Ben's contact information is:

Ben Olson [email protected]

712-335-4049




NEEDS

Who can write the complaint for Ben? We should send a pre-release copy of the letter to them, giving them a chance to change their minds, say 24 hours.

Who can run the news event in front of the offices? Ben is 250 miles away. He is calling around now to look for someone but if you know anyone get them in touch with him or me.




Thanks, Melinda Pillsbury-Foster "

I just emailed a lawyer in Chicago who is a Ron Paul supporter and a member of this forum.

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

“ICA is currently extending invitations to all potential 2008 Presidential hopefuls”.

Further, the “politics” page of their website links to your Guidelines for Churches & Pastors memorandum which includes the following…


(7) A church may allow political candidates to speak on church premises;
however, all candidates should be invited and given equal opportunity to
speak…

Ohhh, that's damning.

 

[mport1]

Keep their phone lines ringing!

 

[Dave]

Mid-America Group connection to Romney

The founder and CEO of the Mid-America Group, one of the sponsors of the June 30 forum, is Marvin Pomerantz.

Mr. Pomerantz is also the Iowa Co-Chair of the Romney campaign!

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

The founder and CEO of the Mid-America Group, one of the sponsors of the June 30 forum, is Marvin Pomerantz.

Mr. Pomerantz is also the Iowa Co-Chair of the Romney campaign!

Someone on the Yahoo Group -- Gloria someone -- included in her emails that Romney had raised $5 Million in "fees" (another word for taxes) in Taxachussetts. Maybe it was more. Unfortunately I deleted her email. Let's get this word out, that the forum sponsors are supporting a proven tax-raiser.

 

[Nickel]

Hello,

I'm new here, but thought I would share my emails to Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance:

Hello Mr. Edward Failor,

I am excited at the opportunity Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance are presenting the people of Iowa. The Presidential Candidates Forum on 06/30/07 could be a great venue for Iowans and all Americans to find out where the candidates stand on issues such as tax relief - which, I imagine, is close to your heart.

However, I am greatly disappointed at the exclusion of Dr. Paul. It seems antithetical for your organization to have played a part in excluding him. How could you not be interested in someone who has has never voted to raise taxes, never voted for an unbalanced budget, never voted to raise congressional pay, does not participate in the congressional pension program, returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year. Obviously, his actions positively impact reducing the taxes of Iowans and all Americans.

If your organization, Iowans for Tax Relief, is at all serious about the issue of taxes, Dr. Paul needs to be deemed credible and included.


Thank you for your time,
(name included)

and

Hello Mr. Steve Sheffler,

I am excited at the opportunity Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance are presenting the people of Iowa. The Presidential Candidates Forum on 06/30/07 could be a great venue for Iowans and all Americans to find out where the candidates stand on issues such as tax relief and faith - which, I imagine, is close to your heart.

However, I am greatly disappointed at the exclusion of Dr. Paul. It seems antithetical for your organization to have played a part in excluding him. How could you not be interested in someone who is Protestant, pro-life and has delivered over 4000 babies?

If your organization, the Iowa Christian Alliance, is at all serious about the issue of faith, Dr. Paul needs to be deemed credible and included.

Thank you for your time,
(name included)

Good luck Dr. Paul,
Nickel
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Democrats for Ron Paul

 

[AdamT]

Great letters!

 

[angrydragon]

HOWEVER, CHURCHES MAY:

Host candidate or issue forums where all viable candidates are invited and allowed to speak.

http://www.iowachristian.com/politics.htm

 

[jj111]

The founder and CEO of the Mid-America Group, one of the sponsors of the June 30 forum, is Marvin Pomerantz.

Mr. Pomerantz is also the Iowa Co-Chair of the Romney campaign!

Please please please, if it has not been done already by the end of this thread, could someone please
1) Post a full list of all the Corporate co-sponsors
2) Post some sort of link if possible as EVIDENCE that they in fact ARE the corporate co-sponsors of this event.

Once I see this confirmed, I will call them, and I imagine others might to, to find out their official position about co-sponsoring this event given that Dr. Paul is excluded, and find out if they knew about this, support it, and/or are planning to withdraw their support of this event if Dr. Paul is not invited. Also we might want them to issue a written statement regarding these questions.

But first, please does anybody have a link SHOWING that these companies are in fact co-sponsoring the event?

 

[Dave]

Please please please, if it has not been done already by the end of this thread, could someone please
1) Post a full list of all the Corporate co-sponsors
2) Post some sort of link if possible as EVIDENCE that they in fact ARE the corporate co-sponsors of this event.

Once I see this confirmed, I will call them, and I imagine others might to, to find out their official position about co-sponsoring this event given that Dr. Paul is excluded, and find out if they knew about this, support it, and/or are planning to withdraw their support of this event if Dr. Paul is not invited. Also we might want them to issue a written statement regarding these questions.

But first, please does anybody have a link SHOWING that these companies are in fact co-sponsoring the event?

It's right here on the homepage of Iowans for Tax Relief:

http://www.taxrelief.org/Default.htm