Ron Paul didn't get above 2nd place in even ONE STATE today.

You make a good point and I would say they are equally evil and I will vote for neither. I will write in Ron Paul if I have to!

Amen, brother!! I'm going to take a giant sharpie marking pen with me to the poll and write RON PAUL in ON the electronic voting machine's screen.:D
 
People really are stupid. I dont know why we ecourage EVERYONE to go out and vote. What we should encourage is for everyone to be informed. I think it would be FINE to ENCOURAGE people to stay at home on voting days unless they can name a two bills "their" candidate has authored.

We should form a PAC to braodcast commericials urging people to stay at home on voting day if any part of their decision is based on watching commericals...

Sorry, but after this election... I will never encourage random people to go vote again.

Heres an example of one good reason why:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-mccain-the-favorite-of-anti-war-republicans/
February 5, 2008
Schneider: ***McCain the favorite of anti-war Republicans***
Posted: 08:39 PM ET


McCain appears to be winning among anti-war Republican voters.
(CNN) — Another surprising finding in the national exit polls: John McCain — who has made the war in Iraq and the need for continued U.S. involvement there a centerpiece of his campaign — is actually winning among Republicans who are against the war. Among those Republicans who disapprove of the war, nearly half voted for McCain, while only a quarter voted for Mitt Romney — even though McCain spent the past few weeks trying to portray Romney as more liberal on the war.

Moderates — those most likely to disapprove of Iraq – seem to simply prefer McCain, even when they don't square on the issues.

– CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

This is absolutely impossible. Either it's been rigged somewhat or the people really ARE stupid.

If it's the latter, maybe we deserve Hillary as our next President.
 
I know it sounds crazy, but what came to my mind today was that it feels like the whole thing is rigged.

I rarely ever encounter a McCain supporter. I don't know anyone who likes him.... and not only that, but on freerepublic, which has been the biggest conservative/Republican (now neocon) site for years, McCain is probably the LEAST popular candidate there. The overwhelming majority hate him.

How can it be that one of the biggest Republican sites on the web, there are very few McCain supporters, yet he is winning majorly among Republicans???

Is the disconnect between the internet and the real world that big? I thought more than 80% of people are online, so it seems unlikely that there could be such a big disconnect.

All I know is that McCain is VERY unpopular among conservatives, and most Republicans (at least on some big websites) so his big lead is very weird.

I get the feeling that our next president has been pre-selected, and the powers-that-be want McCain to get the GOP nomination, because he would be easy for Hillary to beat.

just my 2 cents. :(
 
Obama is a racialist nightmare, If you've ever read his books, you'll know that he is for two things... Black people, and Zionism. That "church" he goes to is more of a "hate on whitey temple" than anything else.

P4J

I read Obama's book.

I'm white, libertarian-conservative, and Republican.

I didn't see ANY of that.

Obama is a liberal, but I don't see him as evil.

You might want to take your hood off and reread the book...
 
my dad said he'd donate another 500 to Paul (IF he announces 3rd party) (he donated 200 on Dec. 16th--but that was when it seemed like he REALLY could maybe, possibly win the Nom. I would donate 500 the day he declares (even though it will hurt financially), whereas I can't afford to give anymore (I gave just over a 1,100 in Q4 to the cause--so shut up) for his Republican run; and gramps would probably wager another 1776.00

The 2nd and 3rd tier, broader-base of supporters aren't (many or most of them) going to donate MORE--if they already have once--because TO THEM it is obvious or at least nearly certain that he's not going to get the Nom from the Republican party (I'm not saying I believe that--but they DO). However, they would be very willing and enthusiastic about supporting him in an iNDEPENDENT run.

200,000 precinct captains, infomercials, and a 25 million dollar Independence Day money bomb!

Nobody is going to stop canvassing--no matter what. But almost everyone is hoping that if it becomes clear that he obviously can't get the Nom., he will go iNDY.

All I hear is yelling, and all I see is willful blindness, from the anti-iNDY folks.

Keep yelling. We however are hopeful for a Ron Paul whitehouse. We don't care if it is w/ out the GOP.

I know a few GREEN party folks (the nonsocialist subset) who have told me specifically they'd support Paul if he announced a third party run. I also have Democratic relatives who have told me they would vote for Paul if Obama was the Dem nominee. If Paul announced he was seeking a 3rd party line in addition to the GOP line, it would certainly help the canvassers and meetup members maintain their enthusiasm to keep persuading voters in their district to vote for Paul. Otherwise prolonged exposure to losing nights like this one will put people into "wind down operations mode."
 
i think obama will be fine, just because he's a democrat doesn't mean he's the antichrist ffs.

I swear some of you people have no clue what you are fighting for. You're no better than those people that voted for McCain. Have you no idea what socialism is all about??????
 
This clip will confirm your (and my) suspicions about the PAID campaign staff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2QSX5WrtI

No longer in good faith can I take away money from my family's savings, college fund etc. to donate to the campaign when the above clip indicates that those of us in the Grassroots are totally NOT appreciated.
And I was so close to "maxing out" my contributions too.
 
Why are there so many morons saying that the elections are rigged?

For crying out loud. why do you believe this when Ron paul was never above 5% in nationwide polls? Why do you seem to think that secretly there is a huge voting base which is being shut out, despite that fact that most of the voters you speak to have still never heard of Ron Paul?
 
So what? Hundreds of thousands of people had the courage to take a stand. These people aren't going to drop away over night. They have demonstrated they have the integrity to vote on principles, and they have demonstrated they get it. They are going to evangelize.

Christianity started from just a few hundred people under intense persecution. Now, it is one of the largest and most influential religious in the world. Even Islam spawned out of Christianity... Nevermind what you think about the religion itself - it flourished in the face of persecution. So will we.

QFT
 
I know it sounds crazy, but what came to my mind today was that it feels like the whole thing is rigged.

I rarely ever encounter a McCain supporter. I don't know anyone who likes him.... and not only that, but on freerepublic, which has been the biggest conservative/Republican (now neocon) site for years, McCain is probably the LEAST popular candidate there. The overwhelming majority hate him.

How can it be that one of the biggest Republican sites on the web, there are very few McCain supporters, yet he is winning majorly among Republicans???

Is the disconnect between the internet and the real world that big? I thought more than 80% of people are online, so it seems unlikely that there could be such a big disconnect.

All I know is that McCain is VERY unpopular among conservatives, and most Republicans (at least on some big websites) so his big lead is very weird.

I get the feeling that our next president has been pre-selected, and the powers-that-be want McCain to get the GOP nomination, because he would be easy for Hillary to beat.

just my 2 cents. :(

My conspiratorial side says the same thing to me!
My state (Florida) only had 30,000+ voters for Ron Paul?
Out of all the registered Republican voters in my state
only 30,00 voted for Ron Paul. There are that many in
Meetup groups around the state I would bet.


Something smells rotten I'm tellin ya!
 
Why are there so many morons saying that the elections are rigged?

For crying out loud. why do you believe this when Ron paul was never above 5% in nationwide polls? Why do you seem to think that secretly there is a huge voting base which is being shut out, despite that fact that most of the voters you speak to have still never heard of Ron Paul?

If you truly believe that Bill Clinton could go from polling 1% to winning the white house without 'rigging', then it's you who are the moron.

McCain was broke, firing staff like the white house during watergate and polling in the basement and lost every debate and poll ever conducted. He burned through $30 million by the end of the 3rd quarter with nothing to show for it. He sang "bomb, bomb Iran" and told America he will stay in Iraq for 100 years or more.

Now, please explain how the man who has supported the war more than any other candidate, supports the 'surge' and exclaims that we'll be in Iraq for 100 years gets the anti-war vote? I'm all ears.

In fact, don't stop there. Please explain how McCain gets all of the issues ass backward and wins the nomination? And don't give me the shit that 'the public are morons'.

Amnesty for illegals.
War in Iraq for 100 years.
Bomb Iran.
McCain/Feingold
McCai/ Lieberman
McCain/Kennedy

Yeah. Sounds like the perfect Republican candidate, eh? If powerful people didn't want McCain at the top, the press would chew him up and spit him out...period.

Explain how Bush, who couldn't say a single coherent sentence, got elected...twice? Explain how 70% of Americans want out of Iraq, but Dems and Repubs both vote for more funding and more troops? Explain how Congress has the lowest rating in history, but the incumbents remain in office?

You think polls are relevant. How sad. You think the Arms Dealers, Exxon, Wall Street and the Bankers will leave the Presidency open to chance, or what Americans really want? How sad, indeed.

Get your head out of the sand.

Bosso
 
what did you expect

This is absolutely impossible. Either it's been rigged somewhat or the people really ARE stupid.

If it's the latter, maybe we deserve Hillary as our next President.

George Bush has twice been elected president and you are surprised to learn that most voters are idiots?
 
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