Ron Paul Campaign Rejects Trump Iowa Debate

[milo10]

I'll add something else that I don't think anyone else has mentioned: most pundits will love that Ron is doing this.

Do you think that Palin, Savage, Limbaugh, et al want another kingmaker in the Republican party? No way!!

No matter what they might say about Trump in public, they are grateful that someone stood up to him. Ron won some serious points with a few individuals doing this. This might tip the scale towards some endorsements. If it doesn't go that far, at least I think it will lead to some kind words, a little more restraint on criticism, some friendlier interviews, etc..

The more I think about what the campaign did here, the more it makes sense.

 

[ghengis86]

They're good for watching reruns of CBS shows.

Criminal Minds
Without a Trace
Ghost Whisperer
.....


I think that's the gist of their programming. I get ION, but I have an antenna and only get over the air broadcast TV and don't watch too much. Whenever I go past ION, it's one of those three shows 90% of the time.

For the 67 people that watch ION regularly, this will be HUGE that RP skipped; to the rest of the world, eh, not so much.

 

[seeknshare]

That does it, Perry won't have someone to ask for help now...

Ha ha...good one!

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Donal Trump you're FIRED, by Ron Paul

 

[nc4rp]

Look how Trump screwed the Iowa GOP:

last spring he was invited to keynote the Republican Party of Iowa’s annual Reagan Dinner, yet at the last minute he left RPI holding the bag by canceling. In turn, RPI canceled its biggest fundraising gala of the year and suffered embarrassment and in addition RPI was required to engage in refunding measures

Trump is a douchebag

 

[flightlesskiwi]

I'll add something else that I don't think anyone else has mentioned: most pundits will love that Ron is doing this.

Do you think that Palin, Savage, Limbaugh, et al want another kingmaker in the Republican party? No way!!

No matter what they might say about Trump in public, they are grateful that someone stood up to him. Ron won some serious points with a few individuals doing this. This might tip the scale towards some endorsements. If it doesn't go that far, at least I think it will lead to some kind words, a little more restraint on criticism, some friendlier interviews, etc..

The more I think about what the campaign did here, the more it makes sense.

 

[febo]

Ron Paul has more hair than Trump

 

[tuggy24g]

Here is the best thing for him to do. Go to a location were he can get 3-5 thousand people together. When someone asks a question during the debate he mutes the TV and answers the question like he was there. That goes on throughout the debate as he talks. That way he will still be answering questions and getting his message/campaign out there. That is another suggestion.

Maybe we can all pray for snow and or heavy rain

 

[Ball]

Just saw on Fox News: Romney says that he's not sure if he'll be able to make the Trump debate. YUSS!!

Romney isn't sure on anything.

He's quantum Romney. You only know Romney's 'spin' when he's observed by a defined audience.

 

[Perry]

This could be the *Lucky* media tipping point that Ron Paul needs just prior to Iowa. If Romney drops this so-called "debate" other candidates might have the courage to drop out and you'd BETTER BELIEVE that the blowhard Trump would be all over the news blowing his horn and the media would follow in turn. I can envision where all the pundits conversation could come back to Paul for having the courage to do what nobody else would.
Ron Paul is correct about due diligence and hard work but I have always believed that we need some classic moment that is, if you will, the opposite of the "Howard Dean scream".

 

[ONUV]

Declining to attend is a HUGE mistake. This will be the last debate before the caucuses. Ron Paul should attend, and stick it to Trump. "Mr. Trump, you called me unelectable, yet I'm among the front-runners here in Iowa. I'm the only candidate with a serious plan to address the nation's spending and debt crisis, and the only one calling for a balanced budget in my first term".... etc.

Ron Paul has principles and won't abandon them for a single vote.

 

[RonPaulMall]

Here is the best thing for him to do. Go to a location were he can get 3-5 thousand people together. When someone asks a question during the debate he mutes the TV and answers the question like he was there. That goes on throughout the debate as he talks. That way he will still be answering questions and getting his message/campaign out there. That is another suggestion.

Maybe we can all pray for snow and or heavy rain

I think that might come off as a little tacky, no matter how reasonable it seems in theory. A better idea I think would be too team up with Huntsman and have an alternative to the debate. Maybe like an hour and a half or two hour discussion at a table moderated by somebody like Brian Lamb or Charlie Rose. Try to get it broadcast on CSPAN or the local Iowa PBS station or something. Doesn't matter if anybody watches it live. The symbolism and public relations aspect of it would be the point. On one side you have Donald Trump and his clown like debate with 30 second soundbites and on the other side you have Ron Paul and Huntsman having a serious, in depth discussion of the issues. And since Huntsman is an establishment candidate, there is no downside to sharing a forum with him. The MSM fawns over how "serious" and "Presidential" he is so he'll just lend to the atmosphere we are trying to create, and if he actually gains some support because of the stunt all the better as the more fractured the Establishment field is the better for us!

 

[Ekrub]

love this move. It's a smack in the face to Trump and Gingrich. Trump for being a "joke" and Gingrich for entertaining said joke. If Romney declines, perhaps Huntsman Paul and Romney might have an alternate debate.

 

[AggieforPaul]

I think that might come off as a little tacky, no matter how reasonable it seems in theory. A better idea I think would be too team up with Huntsman and have an alternative to the debate. Maybe like an hour and a half or two hour discussion at a table moderated by somebody like Brian Lamb or Charlie Rose. Try to get it broadcast on CSPAN or the local Iowa PBS station or something. Doesn't matter if anybody watches it live. The symbolism and public relations aspect of it would be the point. On one side you have Donald Trump and his clown like debate with 30 second soundbites and on the other side you have Ron Paul and Huntsman having a serious, in depth discussion of the issues. And since Huntsman is an establishment candidate, there is no downside to sharing a forum with him. The MSM fawns over how "serious" and "Presidential" he is so he'll just lend to the atmosphere we are trying to create, and if he actually gains some support because of the stunt all the better as the more fractured the Establishment field is the better for us!

I thought about suggesting this too, but my problem with it is Huntsman. Im afraid this would be punching down.

 

[Tinnuhana]

From NewsMax (obvious response to Ron's refusal):

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/...a/2011/12/04/id/419909?s=al&promo_code=DA4A-1

A prestigious team of some of the top producers in network and cable television news -- including the former head of CNN's news division -- has been assembled to produce The Newsmax ION Television 2012 Presidential Debate to be moderated by businessman Donald J. Trump.

Newsmax Media and ION Television announced the production team, which collectively has more than a century of experience in managing major network coverage of U.S. presidential debates and elections, on Sunday.

"ION, Newsmax and Mr. Trump are committed to host a serious presidential forum which will include some of the most reputable journalists and media people in the nation," Brandon Burgess, CEO and Chairman of ION Television, said.

 

[freefromchains]

When Ron Paul wins the GOP Nomination, the Donald will surely run as an Independent.

 

[libertybrewcity]

When Ron Paul wins the GOP Nomination, the Donald will surely run as an Independent.

this is what I'm afraid of. Trump has the time and money to do it too.

 

[Mordan]

He did the right thing.

i was surprised by all the praises Ron Paul got. Many people who disagree about his ideas wrote in Huttington comments that he was 100% right about Trump.

 

[bluesc]

When Ron Paul wins the GOP Nomination, the Donald will surely run as an Independent.

Of course he will. He was going to do it anyway, this decision didn't change anything.

 

[freefromchains]

Of course he will. He was going to do it anyway, this decision didn't change anything.

I don't think so. I think if Newt or Mitt wins, he stays. He hates Ron Paul.