Ron Paul Campaign Rejects Trump Iowa Debate

[ZanZibar]

Just saw on Fox News: Romney says that he's not sure if he'll be able to make the Trump debate. YUSS!!

Called it: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-Iowa-Debate&p=3801729&viewfull=1#post3801729

 

[Mckarnin]

I'm very glad Dr. Paul is not attending. He is classy and earnest and would be too polite to get rude and interrupt Trump if he is being an ass. Chances are high if he had attended Trump would gave tried to turn it into a stand up comedy with Ron Paul as the butt of the joke. Have any of you seen Trump's response to the release about RP not attending? He pretty much said that Ron Paul has zero chance of winning and is a clown...that would not have translated into a good debate for our man.

 

[Lmata]

I see several positives to this.

Ron shows support to the active republicans in Iowa. They know about the fundraiser that Trump ditched and left them holding the bag. And, these are the republicans that vote in EVERY election. Any of them who have been on the fence have probably made their decision now

Ron could go door to door canvasing for the 5 hrs he would spend on this debate and gain more votes that sitting on a show where the host doesn't even like him and is more than willing to make him look kooky. This debate will not be watched by the "masses". It's a waste of time in the final week before caucus.

Great move imo.

 

[Paul or not at all]

Trump is furious because his little circus show will loose half it's potential viewers.

 

[Muttley]

Ron Paul should run a simultaneous webcast answering questions from call in's or from respectable commentators. I think this is a brilliant move and will attract more attention than 89 seconds from Trump. Well played RP!!

THIS! Send this to the suggestion box!

 

[Dianne]

The more I think about it, I bet Ron personally put his foot down and refused to stand there and listen to 2 hours of Trumps crap. I would have refused to.

I personally wondered how I could sit through that debate, watching that marsupial crawling around on Trump's head.

 

[Muttley]

I personally wondered how I could sit through that debate, watching that marsupial crawling around on Trump's head.

Haha...I always threw him into the reptile category with that nasty looking skin and that shit he always does with his hands when he speaks. Having all of his fingers spread nasty looking. It's disturbingly similar to John McCain. I'm a body language person..

 

[Dianne]

A landfill with millions and millions of people who are about to vote in a few days watching. The media is going to make this the biggest debate event of the campaign, and we won't be there.

It's almost like Ron is trying to make sure this becomes a newt/mitt race. He's declining to even compete a week before the vote!

I disagree with you totally. Trump will do one of two things.... completely ignore Ron Paul or ask him things that are totally out of context. Being timed that close to the vote, with no time for explanations; it is better for Ron Paul to be on the offensive rather than defensive.

 

[specsaregood]

looks like we're in an educational campaign here people.

If it was an educational campaign, don't you think they would use the national stage to educate? Think about it. It was a calculated move.

Indeed it was. Teacherone, you are way off the mark. Read the closing part of Dr. Paul's statement. He makes it about how Trump HURT the Iowa GOP. He hurt their fundraising, he embarrassed the party. This is calculated as the media is constantly trying to paint Dr. Paul as the one that hurts the party. And always scaring GOP voters by asking about an independent run. This firmly states that Dr. Paul is on the GOP's side and Trump is not.

From may in IA:
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/05/19/donald-trump-ditches-iowa-republicans/

Donald Trump Ditches Iowa Republicans

Just in from the Iowa GOP, Donald Trump has decided now that he isn’t a candidate he will not speak at the Iowa GOP Reagan Dinner that has been scheduled on June 10th. The Republican Party of Iowa has decided to cancel event due to “Mr. Trump’s unique appeal and the close proximity to the event.”

Party chairman Matt Strawn blasts Trump, “In Iowa, your word is your bond. We are disappointed that Mr. Trump has chosen not to honor his commitment to Iowa Republicans.”

I understand why they invited him (sort of), but this is another indication that Donald Trump was never Presidential material.

This is a good tactical move to get more GOP establishment in IA on Paul's side.

 

[affa]

For the faithful among us, God doesn't expect Ron to try and control outcomes. God expects Ron to do the next right thing. Outcomes are in God's hands, not in Ron's and not in the Donald's. Ron not only calls us to a higher political realm, but a higher moral one as well. God bless him.

As an atheist, you can subtract God from that sentence... I believe the exact same thing. We can never predict outcomes - we must just strive to do the right thing at all times.

 

[teacherone]

Indeed it was. Teacherone, you are way off the mark. Read the closing part of Dr. Paul's statement. He makes it about how Trump HURT the Iowa GOP. He hurt their fundraising, he embarrassed the party. This is calculated is the media is constantly trying to paint Dr. Paul as the one that hurts the party. And always scaring GOP voters by asking about an independent run. This firmly states that Dr. Paul is on the GOP's side and Trump is not.

From may in IA:
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/05/19/donald-trump-ditches-iowa-republicans/


This is a good tactical move to get more GOP establishment in IA on Paul's side.

alright specs i'll take your word for it.

to be honest, i hadn't read ron's press brief.

if Romney does drop it then it was a great call.

if he doesn't, it's terrible - the two-way horse race meme will be solidified.

 

[bbartlog]

I think this is a brilliant move. *Especially* the statement of reasons. Right now, Paul is getting enough media attention that he doesn't have to worry that this will be completely buried, and high enough in the polls that it's pretty hard for people to say 'well, so what'. Showing some awareness of Iowa politics just has to help.
Sounds like Romney is trying to hedge his bets, but on balance I think it makes sense for him to skip it. If it's him versus Newt, he probably doesn't win. Plus Trump is probably leaning towards Newt anyway. He should just commit to skipping it, but vacillation is his style .

 

[Arklatex]

Seems like mostly a positive. Paul is trying to win over the Iowa Republican Party leadership while also trying to get more publicity than he would normally get at some retarded Trump debate anyway.

Yep!

 

[TC95]

Do you guys really think Paul would get serious and substantial questions if he went to this debate?

It doesn't matter. If he gets 2 seconds of air-time, it's worth it.



Just kidding.

 

[Tod]

Huntsman's out too....

 

[gls]

Nobody outside of political junkies watches these "debates" anyway. The campaign will probably get more coverage over his denial than it would have if he participated.

 

[wgadget]

+Rep... On principles Ron Paul should reject this debate, but sadly this is the kind of crap, a lot of moronic Americans like to watch... I don't remember in American History, where after the debate, a month before the primaries, the moderator announces his pick, this is such MADE FOR TV BS!

Yeah, and to top it all off...After the "moderator" chooses the "winner," he just might decide to enter the election himself "if the right person" isn't nominated.

Crazy.

 

[kuckfeynes]

Thank God. There is no way that debate will not devolve into a mockery of itself.

And it's already making national headlines!

 

[xFiFtyOnE]

That does it, Perry won't have someone to ask for help now...

"5...you gotta have 5!"

 

[jkob]

If Romney is really out then it's a good move by Ron. I was really worried that this would play right into the media's hands by excluding Ron to hype up their two "frontrunners" Romney and Gingrich. Maybe Romney, Huntsman, Paul, and whoever else pulls out of the Trump debate could have their own Iowa debate together.