Ron Paul Blimp Questions??? I have answers.

[RP4Pres2008]

RP4Pres2008.

Stop playing the fool.

Explain this...

 

[RP4Pres2008]

Possibly because the answer has already been provided a number of times.

And that answer is?

 

[OferNave]

It's more than just updates...they are planning live GPS feeds, streaming video through load-balanced EVDO connections, etc. In all seriousness, if you started today, how long would it take you to get that developed, QA'd, load tested and stabilized on production systems? How much babysitting would a system like that take, and what do you do when suddenly the hosting provider opens the trap door on you? Remember all the venom in the TeaParty threads when GoDaddy was going limp on Trevor? Think how bad it would be here? Full time webmaster is an insurance policy against embarrassing outages, and i don't know many capable ones that would earn much less than $50K in a commercial setting.

Exactly.

Everyone bitching about the number of employees, or the salary, or why do we need a full time this or that, why can't volunteers do it - doesn't know the first damn thing about starting a company. I've been a software engineer for eleven years, almost entirely at internet startups, technology and entrepreneurship is my passion. I completely understand this situation, and the ignorance being displayed by those who don't would be perfectly excusable if not for the fact that it is so frikkin VEHEMENT.

Can I get some shout outs from folks who have been involved in creating businesses and know what I'm talking about?

 

[orion846]

It's more than just updates...they are planning live GPS feeds, streaming video through load-balanced EVDO connections, etc. In all seriousness, if you started today, how long would it take you to get that developed, QA'd, load tested and stabilized on production systems? How much babysitting would a system like that take, and what do you do when suddenly the hosting provider opens the trap door on you? Remember all the venom in the TeaParty threads when GoDaddy was going limp on Trevor? Think how bad it would be here? Full time webmaster is an insurance policy against embarrassing outages, and i don't know many capable ones that would earn much less than $50K in a commercial setting.

If a competent webmaster offered to do the work for the Blimp project for less money, i'm sure they wouldn't force the full salary upon them.

I have the skills and portfolio to prove I can do all of this. My current job requires I develop .NET/SQL2k5 along with content management systems and social networking components for hundreds of sites. I also am responsible (a team of 3) for keeping these 200-something sites online 24/7 - I would do this site for $500/week EASILY (even that's too much, I'd probably go lower if someone gave me a cool speech about Ron Paul and freedom) - PM me if this seriously about getting paul elected, and not about abusing the enthusiasm of the grassroots.

 

[Ozwest]

RP4Pres2008.

I'm 49, and have been a hands - on worker with my mostly younger employees my whole life.

I have experience, and respect.

 

[Mark]

Can I get some shout outs from folks who have been involved in creating businesses and know what I'm talking about?

Never like this one where the rules completely changed as soon as real money came in.

I believe the answer to the question about the reason for the business was answered
when an article or something was posted that Trevor had the idea for a company
after the Nov 5th event, maybe before, or after.

I'm not sure on the exact time, but, I think the Blimp just happened to work
in league with his planned company.

He was going to start a political ad company, and a great vehicle for an ad is a Blimp.

Thus, The Ron Paul Blimp.

I think the idea for a company was first, the blimp second,

and the LLC when it was deemed capable to work that way.

 

[BlueGecko]

Exactly.

Everyone bitching about the number of employees, or the salary, or why do we need a full time this or that, why can't volunteers do it - doesn't know the first damn thing about starting a company. I've been a software engineer for eleven years, almost entirely at internet startups, technology and entrepreneurship is my passion. I completely understand this situation, and the ignorance being displayed by those who don't would be perfectly excusable if not for the fact that it is so frikkin VEHEMENT.


I've been involved in a technology startup actually and in order for the company to succeed we needed to not take salaries for a few months, for some of us that meant moving into friends/ back home/ sleeping at office/ eating ramen. But thats beside the point...

It's not the amount of employees it the fact their not asking for grassroots (aka free/ survival expenses) help. If the company is unable to find said positions then yes hire people but FIRST see if you can recruit qualified volunteers.

I mean we are grassroots funding no 2 mil starting venture capital with a few mil cash injections


Nothing personal about this guy but I need an example from the website

Joe Amidon
Retired Attorney
Assistant Manager of Company


Joe is an attorney who practiced for 25 years in Wisconsin before
retiring to Asheville, NC. He managed the legal division of holding
company operating a dozen subsidiary businesses in the real estate
investment, construction, demolition and waste disposal fields,
supervising in house counsel and outside litigation. He also conducted
federal and state environmental, and other business related litigation
as trial counsel. Since coming to Asheville, he has done some legal
consulting work and built spec homes as a contractor.

Joe joined the company because sponsorship political advertising on blimps
and other ideas the company is floating sounded like to much fun to miss
out on.


What is he doing for the company?, he is retired does he require 4k a month for what he does? Was there NO similarly qualified person who would do this for free/ expenses or a small stipend????? Did you bother to ask ?

Probably get flamed for this but cmon 4k and we have past FEC chairman, and a First Amendment Attorney on retainer, a full time paralegal and now a retired lawyer.

Sure hes a great guy and maybe we need him and he is worth way more than 4k hes going to be paid a month but could we know why

 

[Ozwest]

Too many are over analyzing this, and do not understand the the restrictions involved in running a small business.

These guys are doing all the right things.

 

[Mark]

Too many are over analyzing this, and do not understand the the restrictions involved in running a small business.

These guys are doing all the right things.

Ozwest, maybe you know. Didn't Trevor have the idea of starting a company first, before the Blimp Project?

 

[Ozwest]

This is a small business. It is a risky adventure.

To somehow think this is a scheme to rip-off people is ridiculous.

Lighten up people.

 

[Ozwest]

If Trevor wanted to make big bickies ripping people off, he would not do it in such a manner.

You guys are going to fuck yourselves.

 

[RP4Pres2008]

If Trevor wanted to make big bickies ripping people off, he would not do it in such a manner.

You guys are going to fuck yourselves.

Take it easy man. You're starting to go overboard here. People obviously have questions/doubts, let them be asked.

 

[Mark]

If Trevor wanted to make big bickies ripping people off, he would not do it in such a manner.

You guys are going to fuck yourselves.

You gotta admit though Ozwest, it was brilliant to start his company this way.

 

[OferNave]

Ozwest, maybe you know. Didn't Trevor have the idea of starting a company first, before the Blimp Project?

Please don't waste our time with conspiracy theories. Stick to legit questions about future plans, and stop insinuating. I don't understand how you can pretend to be trying to accomplish anything positive like this, and if that isn't what you're trying to accomplish, you will cease to get responses.

 

[OferNave]

Too many are over analyzing this, and do not understand the the restrictions involved in running a small business.

They think it's possible to manage something this massive and complex by public committee. "I think we should have a discussion about each staff position." The insanity is staggering.

 

[Mark]

Please don't waste our time with conspiracy theories. Stick to legit questions about future plans, and stop insinuating. I don't understand how you can pretend to be trying to accomplish anything positive like this, and if that isn't what you're trying to accomplish, you will cease to get responses.

The term "conspiracy theories" is well known as a COINTELPRO method.

It doesn't work anymore.

Asking if the idea for the Political Advertising Company was conceived
before he "floated" the idea around for a blimp

is a very legitimate one because he didn't tell us that.

In fact, if it is true,

he used the grassroots to start his company with a hugely expensive project.

 

[Ozwest]

Umm, I am an old pro at running a small business, and it ain't easy.

Most people don't understand the phone calls, writing. planning, that goes with early mornings and sleepless nights. I ran my business without any Holidays for 15 years.

Now I'm bullshitting on this forum, chilling and self sustaining.

The overheads proposed by these talented people are miniscule. Stop procrastinating, and get on with it.

The blimp is magical.

 

[FreeTraveler]

Can I get some shout outs from folks who have been involved in creating businesses and know what I'm talking about?

I directed the IS operations for medium-sized companies for 20 years before retiring. Based on salaries I was paying when I retired this summer, $52K for a dedicated webmaster/internet administrator would be very reasonable. We were paying ours about $60K, plus a full benefit package and I felt like I was getting a bit of a bargain.

 

[Ozwest]

These guys are putting their ass on the line not for a year, but at best 2 or 3 months.

These long-term analogies just don't hold up.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

It is absolutely absurd to question the motivations of those running the blimp project.

The consistent complaint here is based on ignorance of campaign finance law. I have years of experience with PACs. Anyone can check the facts I'll recite below at fec.gov

The ignorance of those who seek to belittle the Liberty Advertising people simply is stunning. A PAC CANNOT donate more than 5,000.00 to the Ron Paul campaign. A PAC CANNOT accept more than 2,300.00 per donor, AND, depending on which kind of PAC was formed, the money given could COUNT AGAINST money which otherwise could be donated to Ron Paul's campaign
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PROVE IT! - I WANT LINKS!!!!

-n