Mckarnin
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Ron Paul Blimp Questions??? I have answers.
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I think they should take some input and consider. Yes it is there project but they changed alot of things quickly without the back and forth thats usual in this forum. People want to donate they just want concerns addressed. And for starting another project this was the only company that would do short term contracts/ open for RP at least for that type of blimp.
My concern, their wasting money by not utilizing the grassroots
I think they should take some input and consider. Yes it is there project but they changed alot of things quickly without the back and forth thats usual in this forum. People want to donate they just want concerns addressed. And for starting another project this was the only company that would do short term contracts/ open for RP at least for that type of blimp.
My concern, their wasting money by not utilizing the grassroots
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We are a business now but there was no business on the page where pledges were taken and that page just represented what we anticipated doing. Thus, those who pledged are under no legal obligation to sponsor advertising and we are under no legal obligation to make good on the original website's promises. That said insofar as is humanly possible we have been working to make good on every statement we can from the initial site. We consider it a duty of honor to get as close as possible to what the pledge sitestated and hope that those who are happy with the blimp as it now proceeding will consider themselves to have a duty of honor to make good on their pledges by purchasing sponsorship of the Ron Paul Blimp Tour.
Its not about spearheading projects thats were you all have it wrong its about handling the projects properly and these last two have NOT been. Even though Nov. 30th raised 500k it was a failure because Trevor decided to make press releases about how much money we were going to raise from HIS idea (which we didnt meet the goal) instead of waiting until the day was over and send a press release about how much money we raised... And the Blimp has become a money making project for him and a few select staff members. I can reccomend two website developers that will manage the site for free not 1,000 bucks a week....
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My complaint isn't with anyone asking legitimate questions of the organizers of this project. That's why they started the thread, after all.
My concern is with those who think this is a socialist haven and they can take over other people's efforts by shouting, throwing temper tantrums, and insisting on having their own way. It's not hard to tell from reading the posts which are which.
Ok, listen up all you whiny bitches [Admin - remove name calling ] et's prove it), then I'm going to make you an offer. Not because you deserve it - I can't legally give you what you deserve. But because this project is too important to too many thousands of people (yes, thousands, based on the pledges) to let a handful of you ruin it.
For every $10 you donate, I will donate $1 to cover the 8% of overhead that offends you. That way you get to have it your way - just a blimp, with no administrative overhead.
Who wants in?
For every $10 you donate, I will donate $1 to cover the 8% of overhead that offends you. That way you get to have it your way - just a blimp, with no administrative overhead.
Who wants in?
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You have a lot of criticisms about the blimp. If you indeed have a business plan, I would appreciate it (and as well as others) if you can post it up so everybody can evaluate it.
Let's hear your business plan, drawings, funding, and other ideas that you speak of.
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion about the 30th. You're also welcome, according to the organizers, to send information about any employees you recommend to the blimp organizers.
If you're not happy about the way this project is organized, you're welcome to start your own. You're also free to withhold your funds and energies for projects you choose to support. Beyond that, I don't believe you have any right to insist on anything. This is a free market, not a democracy or a socialist organization.
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These salaries are killing the project. Just listen to the people and drop these salaries.
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Where can I go to contribute to the blimp project that you're organizing, that will be staffed entirely by volunteers?
Ofernave
To get that number did you leave out expenses (hotel, food, travel, flights) and legal fees
Or did you estimate ?
Just wondering because they can add up quick. Ever hired a lawyer, billable hours at 100 for first amendment lawsuits. 500 for Past Fec chairman. I know their needed just did you count that in overhead.
Where can I go to contribute to the blimp project that you're organizing, that will be staffed entirely by volunteers?
Nope only one available December on short term contract they have. At least that size
To get that number did you leave out expenses (hotel, food, travel, flights) and legal fees
Or did you estimate ?Just wondering because they can add up quick. Ever hired a lawyer, billable hours at 100 for first amendment lawsuits. 500 for Past Fec chairman. I know their needed just did you count that in overhead.
Where can I go to contribute to the blimp project that you're organizing, that will be staffed entirely by volunteers?
Nope only one available December on short term contract they have. At least that size
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The salary thing violates the spirit of everything that has happened with Ron so far. And obviously, if you did not notice, people are pissed off and are crying foul.
There are plenty of people who will do all of this for free.
The way to solve this problem is to eliminate the salaries for now, and if the blimp works out over a month or two, then ask for salaries. If the thing is a success, people will be glad to do it.
There are plenty of people who will do all of this for free.
The way to solve this problem is to eliminate the salaries for now, and if the blimp works out over a month or two, then ask for salaries. If the thing is a success, people will be glad to do it.
The salary thing violates the spirit of everything that has happened with Ron so far. And obviously, if you did not notice, people are pissed off and are crying foul.
There are plenty of people who will do all of this for free.
The way to solve this problem is to eliminate the salaries for now, and if the blimp works out over a month or two, then ask for salaries. If the thing is a success, people will be glad to do it.
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One month run without salaries ?
Anyway just get the creators on here to justify costs like hiring webmasters when people will do it for free and cameramen that make more in NH than California
There are plenty of people who will do all of this for free.
The way to solve this problem is to eliminate the salaries for now, and if the blimp works out over a month or two, then ask for salaries. If the thing is a success, people will be glad to do it.
Reply With Quote
One month run without salaries ?
Anyway just get the creators on here to justify costs like hiring webmasters when people will do it for free and cameramen that make more in NH than California
You guys and quoting your democracy or socialist crap it simple -- just proper planning. You can go back and look at the forums I was expressing no to set a goal for the 30th we had 2200 people registerd and Trevor sends a press release that we are going to raise 2.5 mill? does that math add up yeah if everyone gives 10x what they pledged $1,000.00 a person. I am saying COMMON SENSE. The structure of the blimp paying the unecessary sallaries is crazy. I dont ming paying a couple but lets get real some of those jobs are not needed like the web developer for 1,000k a week!
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A-Freakin-Men.
This is not a Trevor hate thread. This is not a thread for your new idea for a different or better blimp venture.
This is a thread for questions to be answered by a rep of Liberty Advertising.
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twdahm,
please post your plan. You have my attention as well as others. We would like to see what you have to say.
Preferably on another post.
please post your plan. You have my attention as well as others. We would like to see what you have to say.
Preferably on another post.
I hesitate to jump in because
OferNave already emailed me calling me names and such, but,
I did ask a question a long time ago and it was overlooked.
twdahm did say that he would handle the project at no cost.
Sounds like a perfect solution to me.
Is Trevor cool with that? (again)
OferNave already emailed me calling me names and such, but,
I did ask a question a long time ago and it was overlooked.
twdahm did say that he would handle the project at no cost.
Sounds like a perfect solution to me.
Is Trevor cool with that? (again)
This project already has people running it and the organizational structure is working. Bringing in a new leader, briefing him on everything that is going on, etc. would take craploads of time that they do not have. If there's going to be any chance to get it in time for the 16th, you can't be kicking Trevor out now. Some of the other positions, maybe, but that's already been talked about over and over again.
Since this project was first proposed over six months ago, could you explain why we are now in a position of only having 48 hours to raise $200k?
Who is responsible for putting the blimp project in such a position? Have they been replaced?
How much capital (money) did the President and Vice President use of their own money to start this company?
So that we may have a feel for the competence of this new company, what were the last two employement postions held by the President and Vice President of the Blimp company?
Thank you
Who is responsible for putting the blimp project in such a position? Have they been replaced?
How much capital (money) did the President and Vice President use of their own money to start this company?
So that we may have a feel for the competence of this new company, what were the last two employement postions held by the President and Vice President of the Blimp company?
Thank you
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Just to clear things up because this seems to be coming up over and over.
Money gets spent in this order as I currently understand it:
1. Lawyers. Yuck but unavoidable.
2. Paying that first month to get it off the ground.
3. salaries. (retroactive?)
4. Additional flight time.
Am I wrong?
Just to clear things up because this seems to be coming up over and over.
Money gets spent in this order as I currently understand it:
1. Lawyers. Yuck but unavoidable.
2. Paying that first month to get it off the ground.
3. salaries. (retroactive?)
4. Additional flight time.
Am I wrong?
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