Ron Paul Blimp Email

[steph3n]

One more thing guys.... Giving the name of this thread....

...is the first post in this thread the "Mass E-mail" that was suppose to go out to day??

...because if it was...I didn't get it.

But, I'm not worried for my sake of not getting it because I am on this board.

I was worried about those who do not frequent the board who might have not gotten the E-mail....if it was in fact sent out.

I think maybe it was supposed to go out at midnight, I noticed one date on it was the 3rd

 

[jcims]

November troll. They should get paid nothing. None of us have ever gotten paid and we have worked a hell of a lot harder than ole Trevor here. None of us would ever steal the money of donors to put in our own pockets. This blimp is not worth 100k plus the salaries of all the others and the maintenance for this project.

You're talking past tense Cyclone. None of these guys have been paid for the efforts that they have put into it to date either...your judgment of the value of their efforts notwithstanding. They are trying to think big here. As I've already said, I think the company is padded too deep with people, but I don't have a problem with a few folks getting paid a sustenance salary while they devote every waking hour to the effort.

The blimp will not get noticed unless there is someone hammering relentlessly at the local media along the way. Who is going to coordinate that? Who is going to get the local meetup groups involved? Who is going to handle the legal issues associated with giving rides? Who is going to manage the $350K in cash that is donated? Who is going to monitor the blimp crew to make sure they are keeping their end of the bargain? Who is going to make command decisions on necessary artwork changes, blimp routes, weather issues, interviews, engagements? Who is going to wring every last penny out of this effort? You? From your keyboard? This forum is proof positive that you can't get anything done by committee...to many people whining when things don't go their way. This effort needs someone to shepherd it along for it to be effective...are you going to walk away from your home, your job, your life and everything to do this? And even if you were willing, can you get enough supporters in here to support you in that effort?

If so, go for it...

 

[Primbs]

The Ron Paul campaign has about 100 paid staff. Some make a lot and some don't. Some staffers add to the campaign and some don't. Every campaign will have some projects that create a positive return and some projects won't do so well.

Already the Blimp has been in countless newspaper stories worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Once it is up in the air, television will certainly cover the Blimp.

People can't all work for free. Especially an intensive project such as this needs dedicated full time guidance.

Remember this will be a grassroots facilitator. Rallies can take place around the blimp, there can be contests for where to send the blimp and we will also get media coverage.

There are many campaign staffers on other campaigns that are making 10 K to 20 K a month. Some campaigns dine at the most expensive hotels. Some campaigns charter expensive jets to get around.

The blimp is a frugal operation compared to other operations. And those other operations are not getting any media attention like the blimp will get.

 

[hillertexas]

They don't want us. My email went unanswered.

My ex owns a multimillion media firm (by which I'm also employed) and either or both of us would gladly replace Trevor, Elijah, Joe, and Bryce - for free. No expenses paid or anything. All 4 could step down, that would save the blimp $208k/yr.

I vote for McDermit and company

 

[cien750hp]

I vote for McDermit and company

seconded. professionals for free=fantastic.

however, i think we'd all like to have a look at your company/background before

 

[Primbs]

Trevor has a track record to back up his success. He very likely to do it again.

 

[Cyclone]

1. I have worked tirelessly along side all of you for months. I never asked for anythings.

2. When we have run newspaper ads none of us ever thought or considered paying the salary of the newspaper editor.

And no one ever answered any of these questions:

Since questions are not allowed about this project, I am sure I will be flamed for starting this, but I have asked these questions and it appears the post got buried because I never got an answer, so here goes:

I have a few simple questions:

1. How much money are the folks who are running this project going to make? (All of them)?

2. Where is the money going that is coming in as revenue from the advertising sales that is above and beyond your operating expenses?

3. Why is this a for profit venture, Elijah's post did not explain anything to me?

4. How long does this thing need to be in the air and why?

5. What happens if this project never gets off the ground, do the people that have donated so far get their money back?

6. When you write that there will be no refunds are you talking about for the advertising venture? If so, how can you do that? Don't people who pay for advertising usually get what they paid for? How often do folks agree to such a deal?

7. You make it clear under the Terms of Purchase that "you are not making a donation to any political candidate or committee. " This implies that you cannot use any excess funds you make from the advertising to help Ron Paul in any way or support other grass roots efforts to support him either, including supporting grass roots efforts for any TV, radio, or newspaper ads.

8. I have a million questions about your terms of service because every other sentence seems to contradict the one before, but these are minor - not of course to those that would be purchasing from you - but they are minor to the people who are outright donating to your project.

Will someone answer these questions please?

 

[rory096]

Will someone answer these questions please?

Why don't you email them directly to the staff? [email protected]

 

[cien750hp]

Trevor has a track record to back up his success. He very likely to do it again.

i don't doubt trevor would do great, but if people will do it for free and are professionals and better than him, i think they are the way to go.

 

[hillertexas]

One more thing guys.... Giving the name of this thread....

...is the first post in this thread the "Mass E-mail" that was suppose to go out to day??

...because if it was...I didn't get it.

But, I'm not worried for my sake of not getting it because I am on this board.

I was worried about those who do not frequent the board who might have not gotten the E-mail....if it was in fact sent out.

I did not receive this email either

 

[fletcher]

Trevor has a track record to back up his success. He very likely to do it again.

No he doesn't. He built a website from some else's idea and the grassroots made it happen. This isn't even grassroots anymore.

 

[Primbs]

i don't doubt trevor would do great, but if people will do it for free and are professionals and better than him, i think they are the way to go.

How can they be better than Trevor. He just set the world record for raising the most money in one day online.

4.2 million dollars.

 

[rory096]

No he doesn't. He built a website from some else's idea and the grassroots made it happen. This isn't even grassroots anymore.

This isn't grassroots in the same way that a ChipIn raising money to hire a company to create and air an ad isn't grassroots. If you don't like it, go work on some other project, like the letter-writing campaign.

 

[Mental Dribble]

Will someone answer these questions please?

mmany of them are already answered. Did you read the disclosure page?

 

[constituent]

to be fair, it isn't technically grassroots anymore. it is some media company now.

i'll keep it off of the personal/psychoanalytical level for right now.

 

[fletcher]

How can they be better than Trevor. He just set the world record for raising the most money in one day online.

4.2 million dollars.

He did no such thing. He built a website. The grassroots made $4.2 million for Paul. If the grassroots doesn't support the blimp it will fail, regardless of the involvement of someone that once built a website.

 

[cien750hp]

How can they be better than Trevor. He just set the world record for raising the most money in one day online.

4.2 million dollars.

because they are professionals. but we do not know. the moneybomb was a success though, but maybe trevor and elijah could do video or something. just eliminate some positions.

also someone on here offered free web hosting, tea party is currently on that. we should use that instead of paying.

 

[RobC]

email received!

I got a message from RonPaulBlimp.com at 9:24 EST

The message looks great and I've already paid my pledged amount.

I suppose everyone else should get theirs shortly.

 

[jcims]

They don't want us. My email went unanswered.

My ex owns a multimillion media firm (by which I'm also employed) and either or both of us would gladly replace Trevor, Elijah, Joe, and Bryce - for free. No expenses paid or anything. All 4 could step down, that would save the blimp $208k/yr.

I'm sorry i missed your offer, McDermit. All i see is people complaining that these guys are asking for a salary. I just don't see how this project is going to be effective without one or two full time employees doing the legwork, and i don't understand why everyone is going nuts over the guys getting paid for that time. It would be one thing if they could keep their day job, but this isn't that kind of effort.

At this point there are so many flaming arrows heading their direction, an olive branch here and there are going to be hard to notice. If this blows up much more, they may start looking for the type of help you're offering.

 

[jcims]

because they are professionals. but we do not know. the moneybomb was a success though, but maybe trevor and elijah could do video or something. just eliminate some positions.

also someone on here offered free web hosting, tea party is currently on that. we should use that instead of paying.

They are looking at doing tons of streaming video and live content, I think that would stretch the generosity of any host.