Ron Paul being cautiously optimistic

I know for a fact you're older than this. If you were like 24 years old and still believed every fairy tale politics tells you, that would be one thing, but you've been around here for this entire time and there's not much excuse for it.

If you can tell me when we've had someone who is going to head a "Department of Government Efficiency" which is designed to drastically reduce government and government spending, the head of that department requesting Ron Paul, and ONLY Ron Paul's help, and then nothing happened, let me know.

If you can't, then you're full of shit.

But I'm glad you're voting anyway. It's the only way we will be able to see what happens.
 
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If you can tell me when we've had someone who is going to head a "Department of Government Efficiency" which is designed to drastically reduce government and government spending, the head of that department requesting Ron Paul, and ONLY Ron Paul's help, and then nothing happened, let me know.

If you can't, then you're full of shit.

But I'm glad you're voting anyway. It's the only way we will be able to see what happens.

Barack Obama couldn't get this "you're stupid and that's why you need to do what I say" approach to work and he's a lot prettier and smoother than either of us.
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I love that Dr. Paul has been trending recently. I'm hopeful his voice is allowed to be heard if this election goes well. Also, i have not logged in 11 years from looking at my account. I hope everyone is doing well. Life is crazy, but here i am as remembering the man who lit the spark of freedom in me in 2007.

He's the father of the modern day liberty movement, no question.

You gotta stick around, there's all kinds of fun to be had.
 
If you can tell me when we've had someone who is going to head a "Department of Government Efficiency" which is designed to drastically reduce government and government spending, the head of that department requesting Ron Paul, and ONLY Ron Paul's help, and then nothing happened, let me know.

Has Donald Trump said that he wants to drastically reduce government and government spending?
 
...the mere chance of Paul whispering in Trumps ear and it taking is a huge opportunity...
I think the whispering has been going on, very quietly, for many years. Watch what happens.
 
I refrained from voting but it would be pretty neat to see this giant 17 year circle/cycle completed with Dr. Paul being a prominent figure again in his late years, having a hand in reforming some of the things that the R3volution was founded upon.




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That's as close as I'll ever get to an endorsement of Donnie lol
 
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This is getting nuts. Check this out:



 
I know for a fact you're older than this. If you were like 24 years old and still believed every fairy tale politics tells you, that would be one thing, but you've been around here for this entire time and there's not much excuse for it.



Ok, the thing is, I'm going, and I've talked as much $#@! about voting in the last month as anyone but PAF. I'm not going to convince you, but I'll tell you why.

I 100% do not believe Dr Paul is going to have much voice in what happens. Mostly because Dr Paul himself said he doesn't want an official position in one of the vids above. But we'll get to him.

I'm going in and voting for a few reasons.

1) We've gotten to the point where we can instantly tell whether someone is pandering or honestly believes what they're saying. Trump definitely spends a lot of time pandering, but he has surrounded himself with people who don't. Trump is also impressionable (he's been repeatedly blaming that impressionability on why he did certain things last time). If he wins, the people who are going to be surrounding him in the aftermath and taking advantage of that impressionability are all people who honestly believe what they're saying.

2) All of the people in his current orbit are against the war in Ukraine. And the one thing I've heard Trump say that I actually believe is that he wants to wind that whole chapter down. I think this is a given: if Trump wins, Ukraine ends. If Harris wins, Ukraine turns into Afghanistan. That is a certainty.

3) It's not insignificant that RFKjr is in his orbit now. Have you tried to get healthcare for anything that isn't a physical injury recently? The US healthcare system is great if you have a broken arm or need a knee replacement - magical even. But if you have literally any other problem, it is worse than useless. Am I convinced something will happen with it? No - but this is the first of many "there's a chance" things going on right now. The worst outcome for all of these is that there will be a half-hearted fight about it that gets lost in the short term but has a Goldwater/Paul effect where maybe 16 years later people will be thinking about it more. That's worth an hour of my time.

4) Vivek is in his orbit. Before I was thinking I'd vote for RFK I was excited about the idea of voting for Vivek. I have more overlap with Vivek's position than I have had with anyone since Ron Paul (not even Rand!) and he's going to be right there influencing Trump. Same category - is it a guarantee? Hell no. But it's a start, and the best start we've had since 2012.

5) Tulsi Gabbard is in his orbit. This is more of a stretch - but she's going to continue to get national attention and I think any attention paid to people who are authentic and aren't dirty slimy rotten Democrats is attention well spent. Her transition is important because it's a shift away from dirty politics as usual and toward supporting people who are actual human beings. We are being shown that we don't have to just accept the status quo. No, I don't have much overlap with her on policies. But if we can work toward a future where we as a society can have legitimate differences that we're able to discuss rationally, that's a win. Her joining the team represents a rejection of the lies, strawmanning, gaslighting, and everything else that went into our decisions not to vote for the last 12 years.

6) Joe Rogan is in his orbit. This is what pushed me over the edge. Joe Rogan is a normal dude who talks to normal dudes. He also introduces normal dudes to advanced concepts. He's objectively one of the best communicators in the world right now. And he's the current kingmaker.
As Dave Smith pointed out - if Trump wins, then the legacy media will be irreparably crippled forever. The narrative writes itself: If you do new media you win, if you rely on old media, you lose. That's pretty damned important.
"You don't hate media enough. You think you do, but you don't."
If you want to hate media enough, this is your chance.

7) Last of all there's the miniscule chance that the Elon Musk effort will bear fruit. I'm the least hopeful about this and everyone should not expect much. But you know what? It's the first time anyone has said anything this drastic since Ron Paul called for immediately axing 5 whole departments. If Elon does talk to Ron, then we may actually get close to getting something Ron was promising.
Moreover, there's already a path to follow. Argentina did it - and yes, Argentina did it half-assed according to us. But they still did it. And the world has been watching... and ignoring it. They have to, because it's working. It's objectively working.
This may - just may - be a time for that to happen in America. Again, not hopeful. But it's at least possible.


Once again as always, under Republicans, we will lose more ground, and are headed for a more and accelerated Technocratic Society and global [regional] governance. I can go through each one of your list and talk about them but Whitney Webb has already addressed them so I won't reinvent the wheel. Much of what I have posted on this forum concerning the World Economic Forum and other areas will be coming to fruition under Trump and his Agenda 47, Elon Musk, Javier Milei and others.

From my perspective, the psyop worked better than planned and the WEF/U.N. won this election.

I know it's a long podcast but it is so worth the listen.



Selection 2024 with James Corbett and Whitney Webb

https://odysee.com/@UnlimitedHangout:a/58-corbett:c
 
If you can tell me when we've had someone who is going to head a "Department of Government Efficiency" which is designed to drastically reduce government and government spending, the head of that department requesting Ron Paul, and ONLY Ron Paul's help, and then nothing happened, let me know.

If you can't, then you're full of shit.

But I'm glad you're voting anyway. It's the only way we will be able to see what happens.

Let's create another Federal Department to Reduce the Federal Departments. :rolleyes:


You don't need to make anything permanent of that magnitude...
 
Let's create another Federal Department to Reduce the Federal Departments. :rolleyes:


You don't need to make anything permanent of that magnitude...

I'm all for it. Even suggested it here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?567175-Proposal-New-Govt-Agency-WFAA

The caveat is that this department should have no budget except a portion of what they can cut from other departments. Then, the only permanency would be based on how much is left to cut. If they can't find any more WFA, then their budget dwindles naturally (although, that should only take about a thousand years).
 
I am happy there there will be at least some push back on the health "care" system and that there seems to be at least some effort to make the machine smaller. So I do have a level of optimism. Not gonna hold my breath though.
 
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