Ron Paul backers tangle with state GOP over caucus reports
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i called missouri GoP today and the guy answered the phone all intimidating.
i politely inquired if there is a list of counties that have not turned in their results, and he gruffly replied "they are still processing the results"; they dont know which counties have or have not turned in their results, nor will they until they are done processing the results.
The last day to challenge the results will be soon. It appears they are doin the ole "drag it out until its too late" scam and plan to just "get away with it"
we all know they will be fudging the results and will attempt to "stealth certify" them before they can be challeneged by the Paul campain.
the whole thing stinks to high heaven of corruption
my question is does the GoP KNOW that they have been infiltrated by cheating neocons, or are they walking around all blind and dumb to the fact that their party was hijacked.
have you seen the look in the eyes of the N.H. sec of state in Bev Harris' video?
he reminds me of cheney and the whole "fuck the people" attitude. these are the hijackers, the neo-cons, the thieves of liberty and of america, hiding in the shadows in top-level positions in the GoP and government. jeesh that red pill is lookin better all the time. too bad im allergic.
i politely inquired if there is a list of counties that have not turned in their results, and he gruffly replied "they are still processing the results"; they dont know which counties have or have not turned in their results, nor will they until they are done processing the results.
The last day to challenge the results will be soon. It appears they are doin the ole "drag it out until its too late" scam and plan to just "get away with it"
we all know they will be fudging the results and will attempt to "stealth certify" them before they can be challeneged by the Paul campain.
the whole thing stinks to high heaven of corruption
my question is does the GoP KNOW that they have been infiltrated by cheating neocons, or are they walking around all blind and dumb to the fact that their party was hijacked.
have you seen the look in the eyes of the N.H. sec of state in Bev Harris' video?
he reminds me of cheney and the whole "fuck the people" attitude. these are the hijackers, the neo-cons, the thieves of liberty and of america, hiding in the shadows in top-level positions in the GoP and government. jeesh that red pill is lookin better all the time. too bad im allergic.
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Good God! (sorry for the blasphemy to those who don't like the expression...)
Whatever happens...don't give up! That is what they want you to do. Keep it up.
A lot is at stake, and if you think about it....it will affect the whole world. Keep up the activism. Read the thread with the Spanish title. LOL I placed it to piss a few off so that they would open it and read it. Stay optimistic.
¡Nunca seremos derrotados!
Whatever happens...don't give up! That is what they want you to do. Keep it up.
A lot is at stake, and if you think about it....it will affect the whole world. Keep up the activism. Read the thread with the Spanish title. LOL I placed it to piss a few off so that they would open it and read it. Stay optimistic.¡Nunca seremos derrotados!
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they dont give a shit thats why.
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Arent they practically forcing us to challenge the results if we cant review them?
Maybe phrase it to that way, and that we need to see them early Monday or we will protest the results by the end of the day Monday or Tuesday.
Maybe phrase it to that way, and that we need to see them early Monday or we will protest the results by the end of the day Monday or Tuesday.
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+1, do this.
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While researching this I found that if a person is found to have brought frivalous charges they can be fined and/or jailed. I wouldn't bring any charges at this time.
It would be cool to walk in with an attorney to ask to see the results and infer that charges would be brought if the reports are not made available to see. Sometimes this will work.
It would be cool to walk in with an attorney to ask to see the results and infer that charges would be brought if the reports are not made available to see. Sometimes this will work.
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Each county chairman according to:
http://www.mogop.org/convention/caucuses.html is instructed to keep a copy of the results, etc.
I know there are something like 117 counties, but if a person were to call each chairman they would be able to get the results also.
That way one would know if the results were altered or not.
http://www.mogop.org/convention/caucuses.html is instructed to keep a copy of the results, etc.
I know there are something like 117 counties, but if a person were to call each chairman they would be able to get the results also.
That way one would know if the results were altered or not.
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I am part of the Kansas City (Jackson County) Ron Paul group, and we are deciding whether or not we need to file an injunction to have the deadline for contesting the results extended until at least a few days after the results are released. I have a vested interest since I am one of the delegates submitted to the Missouri GOP. Any help with the wording of this injunction would be appreciated since we are not all lawyers here.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Election law
As per Missouri election laws:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C100-199/1150000631.HTM
States that the punishment is not more than 5 years imprisonment and a $2,500.00 fine.
These election officials have not really been brought to task regarding their flagrant disregard of the laws. They are not the "little gods" that they think they are. They really need to take their positions and duties more seriously.
As per Missouri election laws:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C100-199/1150000631.HTM
States that the punishment is not more than 5 years imprisonment and a $2,500.00 fine.
These election officials have not really been brought to task regarding their flagrant disregard of the laws. They are not the "little gods" that they think they are. They really need to take their positions and duties more seriously.
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RNC vs DNC
Sandra, if you are referring to the delegates that MI AND FL were penalized by the DNC, the RNC also penalized them with a removal of 50% of their delegates. It is not as harsh as the DNC, I admit, but the RNC did institute a penalty.
I feel that the individual party member who whether through misguided "loyalty" just does whatever they feel is necessary to obtain the end result they are looking for in a caucus, primary, etc., should be called on for their breaking the rules and the law. That is what it is going to take, and maybe more than once.
When I googled election rules and ethics for MO, the hits that came up show that MO may have just as much finangling of the rules and laws as Louisiana. I am sure if we did a search for every state there would be problems there also. How did it get to be so bad?
Voters like myself who wear rose colored glasses and believed that no one would do such a thing, were/are unaware. Now how to make it a national news issue?
Coming from Ron Paul supporters it will just appear to be a bunch of sour grapes.
I guess we just start at the local level and work from there. (As if a media black out wasn't enough!)
Sandra, if you are referring to the delegates that MI AND FL were penalized by the DNC, the RNC also penalized them with a removal of 50% of their delegates. It is not as harsh as the DNC, I admit, but the RNC did institute a penalty.
I feel that the individual party member who whether through misguided "loyalty" just does whatever they feel is necessary to obtain the end result they are looking for in a caucus, primary, etc., should be called on for their breaking the rules and the law. That is what it is going to take, and maybe more than once.
When I googled election rules and ethics for MO, the hits that came up show that MO may have just as much finangling of the rules and laws as Louisiana. I am sure if we did a search for every state there would be problems there also. How did it get to be so bad?
Voters like myself who wear rose colored glasses and believed that no one would do such a thing, were/are unaware. Now how to make it a national news issue?
Coming from Ron Paul supporters it will just appear to be a bunch of sour grapes.
I guess we just start at the local level and work from there. (As if a media black out wasn't enough!)
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