Ron Paul Attracts Over 1,800 Voters at King County Rally (Picture)

[KingNothing]

Certain members of this board and the campaign itself are completely incapable of leaving "liberty education mode" and moving into "national election winning mode". Liberty education mode is will not balance the budgets, release shackles from the economy or receive implementation from a new President with different policy.

Instead of saying other people are the problem, I'd suggest you look in a mirror.

I do not endorse this post, and I'm not really sure what you're driving at.

Educating is THE most important thing we can do and it does not imply a lack of motivation to win now. Suggesting that anyone involved in the campaign does not want to win this election is just silly, and implying that they cannot do so while preaching the tenants of Liberty is not true. We have to educate to win, and to educate we have to be better versed in economics, history, and philosophy than everyone else. We have to be more courteous than everyone else. We have to be more optimistic than everyone else, we have to be more presentable than everyone else, and we have to be more empathetic than everyone else. And we also have to politic better than everyone else. That means we have to reach new minds while staying true to our principles. Has the campaign not done that as well as, or better than, anyone could expect? If there is blame to be shared, it is only that Paul and the rest of us are not eloquent enough to win support immediately after relaying our message to new listeners. And that just isn't feasible. It takes time to convince each individual of the value of the paradigm shift that we are proposing, and a lot of people are doing their best, and we've made AMAZING advances for our cause. In April, did you ever imagine that we'd be here? This is tremendous stuff! Appreciate everything that Paul, you, me, all of us, have accomplished so far! We haven't won a battle yet, but we are winning the war.

 

[bobburn]

Whine, whine, bitch, bitch, repeat.

 

[LibertyEagle]

What a fantastic crowd.

What can we do to help GOTV?

 

[seawolf]

I hope someone is going to be able to do a professional type filming tomorrow at the Century Line Arena in Boise, Idaho that seats 6,000. Check out the Arena on the Events Portion of the Official Website.

I believe that event may rival the Rally for the Republic Event in Minnesota. If so, it would be great for commercials, you tube etc.

 

[Orgoonian]

Based on what I saw volunteering there tonight a good majority are people who will vote. They were passionate and were taking signs and signing up to be precinct leaders. They were also largely older, not young people.

^^^
This.
I was sitting next to an elderly couple,who claimed they supported Hillary last election.
They came because they wanted to see why people liked him so much.
When Dr.Paul started talking about private property,and how you are responsible for your property(liability)but must get permission from the government to do what you wish with it,they started nodding at what he was saying.
When Dr.Paul started talking about the war on drugs,and stating that if the fed gov can tell you what you can,and cannot put into your body,then you don't even own your own body,the woman said,i never thought of it that way.

Long story short,by the end of the speech,they were both sporting Ron Paul buttons,and i made two new friends.

 

[nasaal]

Voters is such a strong word. They could all be voters. But history tells us that most of them aren't. When it comes time to vote, they do other things. Glad to see a crowd that size though.

 

[ctiger2]

history is watching a hero

Yep and I predict a Ron Paul movie within 10yrs.

 

[roversaurus]

Certain members of this board and the campaign itself are completely incapable of leaving "liberty education mode" and moving into "national election winning mode". Liberty education mode will not balance the budgets, release shackles from the economy or receive implementation from a new President with different policy.

Instead of saying other people are the problem, I'd suggest you look in a mirror.

Calling those people "voters" IS campaign mode.

 

[The Free Hornet]

The burden of proof is on the campaign. Call them attendees, people, fans, whatever you like but to blanket call them voters is inaccurate - some are also under 18, those people aren't voters. If you want the media to take the campaign seriously, I'm just encouraging the use of accurate nouns to describe the situation.

What a pedantic ass you are. The term "voters" is both a generalization and accurate. All of those people will either vote or be eligible vote for something. Even the young ones likely get a vote for who wins 'Father of the Year' or something. It would be like calling concert attendees "fans", nobody believes everyone is a fan as some are likely just there with a friend. It's not unlike describing the home crowd as supporting the home team or being a fan of the game. Some are neither.

Voters is such a strong word. They could all be voters. But history tells us that most of them aren't. When it comes time to vote, they do other things. Glad to see a crowd that size though.

You're clueless. Do you not expect Ron Paul to get at least 1800 votes in WA? Will 100% make it to the polls? That is a near impossibility and only a troll like Walt would interpret the campaign as implying such. This is what I predict about the crowd:

1) they are far more likely to vote in the Republican primary than the average King County resident
2) they are far more likely to vote for Ron Paul

Where is the evidence of people attending a rally and not voting? You must have some great info your witholding that shows people who go to a candidate's rally don't actually vote ("history tells us that most"). That was a specific and quantifiable statement you made. "Most" is more than 50% and "history" implies you actually have some source for this.

That would be gold! Can you share it or are you just talking trash?

 

[Barrex]

You are all wrong and you are all right.

It is awesome that so many people showed up.
Ron packs events but there is a problem transferring those numbers in votes.

Both sides are right and both sides are wrong ...So stop name calling and fighting or I will start flaming you because I am only one who is right here ...pih some people...


How many votes were cast last time in Washington?

 

[sailingaway]

Ron got something like 21% last time in the caucuses, the primary was held after Super Tuesday when Ron didn't do well, and media falsely said he had dropped out. He got 8% then. Huckabee and McCain, not Romney, beat Ron last time.

 

[JK/SEA]

Here's the introduction:

i think i saw walt...

 

[Barrex]

Ron got something like 21% last time in the caucuses, the primary was held after Super Tuesday when Ron didn't do well, and media falsely said he had dropped out. He got 8% then. Huckabee and McCain, not Romney, beat Ron last time.

I dont mean percentage I mean number of all voters that voted. Was it 1000 or 10000 or closer to 100000?

 

[WD-NY]

Let's call it what it is, ok? Obama is very practiced at using teleprompters to read speeches that someone else wrote for him.

Great orator? Not so much. Have you ever heard him when the teleprompters go out? It ain't pretty.

First, Obama writes the drafts of his speeches (he's not a total idiot/empty suit like Bush) - second, even if he didn't write his speeches and was just really good at reading from a teleprompter, so what? How does that make any of what he says less persuasive, well constructed, and/or eloquently composed? There's a reason why ~99.9% of all 'historic' speeches were written down before being delivered... serious words demand serious thought/effort to compose. And third, have you seen Obama deliver a stump speech (which, btw change depending upon what issue he wants to 'push' to the voters/local-media of whatever state he's speaking to)? Obama = 100x better at off the cuff stumping than Ron. To claim otherwise is silly...

But that's not my point. My point is simply that if Ron speaking off-the-cuff does a disservice to us all. History doesn't remember off-the-cuff stump speeches. History remembers speeches like this:
[video=youtube;2pbp0hur9RU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2pbp0hur9RU[/video]

Has Ron given a formal speech yet this entire campaign? The answer is no. Doesn't this bother you a little? Don't you want Ron to make the most of this final opportunity and present his message in the best light possible?

Personally, I think it's absolute folly given how great a writer/thinker Ron is... I mean, the man has books of previously written speeches to draw from.

Bull, he came out with a BUNCH of in depth stuff yesterday on NDAA etc and the AP story was that he 'decried the drug war', one sensationalistic 'nutty' (or spinnable) comment out of 45 minutes of speech without notes.

Youtube? I'll be very surprised if what he said about the NDAA yesterday surpassed the eloquence of his 5 min speech on the floor of congress a few weeks back.

 

[sailingaway]

First, Obama writes the drafts of his speeches (he's not a total idiot/empty suit like Bush) - second, even if he didn't write his speeches and was just really good at reading from a teleprompter, so what? How does that make any of what he says less persuasive, well constructed, and/or eloquently composed? There's a reason why ~99.9% of all 'historic' speeches were written down before being delivered... serious words demand serious thought/effort to compose. And third, have you seen Obama deliver a stump speech (which, btw change depending upon what issue he wants to 'push' to the voters/local-media of whatever state he's speaking to)? Obama = 100x better at off the cuff stumping than Ron. To claim otherwise is silly...

But that's not my point. My point is simply that if Ron speaking off-the-cuff does a disservice to us all. History doesn't remember off-the-cuff stump speeches. History remembers speeches like this:


Has Ron given a formal speech yet this entire campaign? The answer is no. Doesn't this bother you a little? Don't you want Ron to make the most of this final opportunity and present his message in the best light possible?

Personally, I think it's absolute folly given how great a writer/thinker Ron is... I mean, the man has books of previously written speeches to draw from.



Youtube? I'll be very surprised if what he said about the NDAA yesterday surpassed the eloquence of his 5 min speech on the floor of congress a few weeks back.

You completely made that up about Obama writing the drafts of his speeches. Until he died JFK's old speechwriter was one of the ones writing his soaring rhetoric, and ind debates with Clinton he couldn't find arguments.

And about NDAA, it isn't new about NDAA it is new material in his speeches that the reporters who did NOT cover his floor speech hadn't heard whereas the drug war stuff is NOT new, so if you are right and they will write about new material, they sure didn't show that yesterday.

and no, it doesn't bother me that Ron doesn't give staged preachy speaches I would never go to hear and don't watch on TV. They are fake. His 'genuineness' and actual information is what draws me to him.

Beyond that, it isn't what he does well. Obama speaks well. He may do nothing else at all, so he uses what he has. Ron has principles, philosophy, integrity, understanding of economics, and is genuinely on the side of the people, but doesn't deliver canned speeches as Reagan did. I really like Reagan, as a speaker, but Ron has different strengths I would choose over Reagan's any day of the week. Except during an election week, if I could still have Paul at the end of it. But you go with your strenghts. That isn't his.

 

[surf]

for what it's worth, i didn't attend last night and nor did any of the dozen or more delegates i have lined up primarily because i thought it'd be better to allow others to see him. it is not unfair, imo, to assume that the vast majority of those in attendance last night will show up Saturday morning and do their thing.

 

[Drex]

He's a superstar!

 

[socal]

Videos of event,

(part 1)


(part 2)


(part 3)

 

[jcannon98188]

Based on what I saw volunteering there tonight a good majority are people who will vote. They were passionate and were taking signs and signing up to be precinct leaders. They were also largely older, not young people.

I was there last night. It was INSANE! I was looking around inside the room and thought "WOW! There are TONS of people here!" But ended up having to leave early (I had to get up at 4am for work today) and stepped out and there was EVEN MORE OUTSIDE!

 

[USAFCapt]

No cheesy music for his intro? Does not compute...