Ron Paul and Marijuana

[ARealConservative]

How do you feel about diet soft drinks? How about MSG? Howzabout Partially hydrogenated vegetable oil. How do you feel about prescription drugs?

Let's see.. I know nobody who died from pot smoking ever.. L:etha;l dose is just not a reality. I have a mother and her brother in early graves from pharmaceuticals. I watched my former Arts Agent slowly kill hmself with diet Coke. Banning drugs has NEVER worked. It just raises the price and gives criminal cabals large sums of money to be criminals wth. The NWO would not have half or one quarter the terrorist operating funds they have if drugs were leagl and dispensed by physicians or State cotrolled boards. For pot it should be the coffee shop Amsterdam model.

Killng yourself is banned? Just how do they enforce that one?

Best
Randy

THC is fat soluble. You could theoretically create a lethal does by taking giant hail bays of the drug and cooking it in butter, then eating a massive quantity of the tainted butter.

 

[Dary]

Common goals

How should I effectively sell this delicate subject?

Drug dealers and prohibitionists have a lot in common.

They both want drugs to be illegal.

 

[hells_unicorn]

Killng yourself is banned? Just how do they enforce that one?

Best
Randy

The same way that they enforce civil lawsuits when the defendant is unable to pay the damages, they'd have to go after the family, it's equally as absurd as the way in certain backward cultures they would execute members of families if one of the children stole something at the market.

 

[maiki]

THC is fat soluble. You could theoretically create a lethal does by taking giant hail bays of the drug and cooking it in butter, then eating a massive quantity of the tainted butter.

I don't think this is actually possible. There was a DEA report on how much THC you'd need to consume and how quickly to die, and it was pretty much physically impossible. You are more likely to die from eating all that butter before you die from the THC. I think it is easier to die from consuming too many potatoes than it is to die from THC according to the report.

 

[Revolution9]

No, of course not, but my question to you would be... are they Republicans?

Here is the rub I like.. They will be Republicans. Then what are the neo-old school going to do when they have to tip toe around us..,heheh We can just tell them if they are for all that control nanny state stuff they should be Democrats..pwned!

Best Regards
Randy

 

[IRO-bot]

I believe drugs should be banned, just like killing yourself is, the government has to have a say in certain parts of what you do. but ill still support paul

ROFL. No offense but, how is killking yourself banned? How does the government prevent this? LOL. It is just funny the way you say it.

 

[Sematary]

Many people I talk to about Ron are very receptive, until I get to his stance on the "War on Drugs". Several people have accused me of being a pot smoker myself (I'm not), and others are repulsed at the idea of drugs being legal. I find myself unable to omit this part since it's an important issue that I'm passionate about. How should I effectively sell this delicate subject?

It's very simple. He believes that it should be up to the states - as per the constitution, to legislate on the issue of drugs. His stance is simply that the federal government has no business being involved with this.

 

[Revolution9]

I don't think this is actually possible. There was a DEA report on how much THC you'd need to consume and how quickly to die, and it was pretty much physically impossible. You are more likely to die from eating all that butter before you die from the THC. I think it is easier to die from consuming too many potatoes than it is to die from THC according to the report.

Houston's Armed Forces Mediacal Center (whatever it is fficially called) uses massive washes of THC on its brain urgery patients to protect the brain and neural functions from oxidization. If it was toxic at all this would send the patient into death throes. As well there is an Anandamine receptor site in all animals down to the fruit fly. This plant and animals have a long history with each other. The anandamine receptor is an exact lock and key fit for the THC molecule.

Best Regards
Randy

 

[LibertyEagle]

Here is the rub I like.. They will be Republicans. Then what are the neo-old school going to do when they have to tip toe around us..,heheh We can just tell them if they are for all that control nanny state stuff they should be Democrats..pwned!

LOL. Well, you might be better at getting this across than I am. I'm having a hard enough time getting them over their brainwashed belief that 1. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 and 2. Us leaving isn't going to increase the likelihood that we will be attacked here. 3. Dr. Paul isn't some kind of wuss; rather he actually wants to go after the people who attacked us. So, once I get past this, if I threw the whole drug legalization thing in, I think I would lose them totally. To me, it's not worth it at this point. But, like I said, maybe you're better at presenting the case than I am.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Dr. Paul doesn't want to divert FEDERAL resources (DEA, etc.) from FEDERAL responsibilities such as national security and the nexus of drugs and terrorism to arrest chemo patients, et al.

 

[jj111]

Know your audience.
In printed materials tailor it to your audience.
To liberal democrats in Bay Area we have a flyer which says RP would not allow federal gov't to interfere with California upholding its medicinal marijuana laws. It doesn't even mention legalizing all drugs.

For a conservative audience, we have different fliers which do not mention medicinal marijuana but mention more traditional conservative issues.

If talking one on one with the person, ask THEM what are the important political issues for THEM.

If they seem to disagree with you, give them a little flyer on RP and say, "if you check this guy out on Google Video you will probably like what you see" and move on.

There are many that are natural targets for our message. For most people, it is still a matter of name recognition. Let people know about RP, let them ask you questions, encourage them to look him up on internet.

It is probably wasting time to spend arguing with people against positions that they have firm opinions about.

If somebody really doesn't like RP at all, move on to the next stranger.

 

[ARealConservative]

I don't think this is actually possible. There was a DEA report on how much THC you'd need to consume and how quickly to die, and it was pretty much physically impossible. You are more likely to die from eating all that butter before you die from the THC. I think it is easier to die from consuming too many potatoes than it is to die from THC according to the report.

I bet the report dealt purely with smoking the drug and not other delivery mechanisms.

 

[0zzy]

I believe drugs should be banned, just like killing yourself is, the government has to have a say in certain parts of what you do. but ill still support paul

ROFL

"He killed himself? Through him in jail!"

 

[constituent]

as a side note... i mentioned this in a hot topics thread:

the best thing the legalize drugs crowd can do is tell their 'friends' about ron paul. place adverts in high times, head shops, and on pay phones (i'm not joking). can you say ron paul blotter (i am joking)?

 

[maiki]

I bet the report dealt purely with smoking the drug and not other delivery mechanisms.

It did, however, but your stomach is only so large, and things are not infinitely soluble. And eating too much butter can be pretty terrible for you.

 

[constituent]

and just for the hell of it...

i saw a study once talking about how people who've smoked for many years do not show deficits in their functioning as compared to non-smokers... however, when high, experienced smokers actually show improved cognitive function.

also, psilocybin is excellent for speech and language development skills, there was a study once that showed its benefits particularly for children under the age of 6 or something like that...

don't have the sources on that right now, but if you look around you'll find 'em.

 

[ARealConservative]

and just for the hell of it...

i saw a study once talking about how people who've smoked for many years do not show deficits in their functioning as compared to non-smokers... however, when high, experienced smokers actually show improved cognitive function.

also, psilocybin is excellent for speech and language development skills, there was a study once that showed its benefits particularly for children under the age of 6 or something like that...

don't have the sources on that right now, but if you look around you'll find 'em.

psilocybin can be extremely lethal for young children.

Stick with Mozart at that age!

 

[constituent]

i'm not advocating giving it to kids... just mentioning that i saw a study, i'll put some effort into finding that source for ya, if you're interested...


and just for chuckles...

what's the difference between regular lethal and extremely lethal?

 

[brumans]

Psilocybin is relatively harmless and is no way lethal.. not sure where you're getting your "facts" from.

 

[Jennifer Reynolds]

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