Ron Paul and Marijuana

[UKLooney]

Please Digg Up, more votes for RP???

I'm gonna plug this video again hoping for a couple extra diggs, most peeps missed it last time. This message is important to lots of us ill folk.

RP's message at the end. Great video to boot!

http://digg.com/health/Medical_Cannabis_Time_Lapse_Video

Cheers guys

 

[ryanmkeisling]

Dr. Paul doesn't want to divert FEDERAL resources (DEA, etc.) from FEDERAL responsibilities such as national security and the nexus of drugs and terrorism to arrest chemo patients, et al.

Not only that but per his talk at google, all drugs should be allowed to be sold in all pharmacies without federal limitations. This means that if the state and the pharmacies policies were in line, all drugs could be bought over the counter: heroin, cocaine, lsd, extacy, pcp, morning after pill, marijuana, etc. Can you imagine this? There was a time, in the early sixties that one could walk into a pharmacy and buy LSD over the counter, my grandfather still has some, although he would never let me have it! This is how it should be as the War on Drugs is more about hysteria and keeping black markets afloat. The US economy needs black markets and so does the CIA. We all know that the CIA has used drugs to fund terrorism for decades the world over, this is no longer a secret or a "conspiracy theory", but no one wants to believe it, or face the TRUTH.

 

[zzxf]

I HATE the war on drugs -- every part of it makes me seething angry -- so Ron Paul's stance on this is probably my 3rd or 4th top reason for supporting him. But I've come to the conclusion that unless I know my audience feels the same way, I can't mention it among the reasons I give for voting for him. I think I may have unfortunately turned people off to Ron Paul by mentioning this issue, so it's just not worth it. There are plenty of other good issues that can be emphasized.

 

[Lance C Roseman]

RPF members,

I am trying to recruit Medical Marijuana Patients to vote for Ron Paul!

Weedtracker.com is the biggest medical marijuana forum in the country, with thousands of voters visiting every day--

There is already a thread there called "who are the MMJ-friendly candidates?" -- I'm trying my best in that thread to battle against the misinformation being spread by Clinton and Obama supporters, as well as general Ron Paul Haters.

I'm trying my best, but I'm not nearly as skilled in debate as many of the great posters here -- I could use some backup!

http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/sh...dly-55003.html

Thanks to anyone that can help

My website cannabis-world.org has only one banner...a Ron Paul banner! The group of us whom run and moderate the site were the first medical cannabis growers to be licensed by the Canadian fedgov. Word is out on all the larger cannabis forums.

 

[UnitedWeStand]

Remind people who are concerned about the legalization of drugs that our system of checks and balances prevents any President from implementing any law without elected congressional approval.

Marijuana isnt the biggest issue for most older voters, but I think a lot of people read about this and immiediately imagine a bunch of crackheads released from prison and robbing their houses.

 

[UKLooney]

http://digg.com/health/Medical_Cannabis_Time_Lapse_Video

My website cannabis-world.org has only one banner...a Ron Paul banner! The group of us whom run and moderate the site were the first medical cannabis growers to be licensed by the Canadian fedgov. Word is out on all the larger cannabis forums.

Can you post the link to the above digg on you site. It would help lots. Cheers...

 

[phree]

I believe drugs should be banned, just like killing yourself is, the government has to have a say in certain parts of what you do. but ill still support paul

Hamedeh, I don't know if anyone addressed your post yet, but here's my take.

Drugs are generally bad for people, but prohibition is an ineffective way to deal with it. The government's attempt to ban alcohol is a classic example.

Drugs being illegal doesn't stop people from using them, it only makes the quality of the drugs lower and more dangerous, creates the black market for drugs which encourages violent crime, and finally, the war on drugs imprisons people who haven't necessarily hurt anyone but themselves. Add to that the fact that some people are capable of using drugs without ruining their lives.

That's my quick thoughts about the subject. If you're interested here's a link to an speech given by Gary Johnson when he was the governor of New Mexico. He is an outspoken advocate of legalizing drugs and he had endorsed RP.

http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/drugreform.html

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Ask them if they want to outlaw beer. Alcohol is far more dangerous than weed, so ask them to explain why alcohol should be legal, and marijuana illegal.

 

[Greenskin]

Hamedeh, I don't know if anyone addressed your post yet, but here's my take.

Drugs are generally bad for people, but prohibition is an ineffective way to deal with it. The government's attempt to ban alcohol is a classic example.

Drugs being illegal doesn't stop people from using them, it only makes the quality of the drugs lower and more dangerous, creates the black market for drugs which encourages violent crime, and finally, the war on drugs imprisons people who haven't necessarily hurt anyone but themselves. Add to that the fact that some people are capable of using drugs without ruining their lives.

That's my quick thoughts about the subject. If you're interested here's a link to an speech given by Gary Johnson when he was the governor of New Mexico. He is an outspoken advocate of legalizing drugs and he had endorsed RP.

http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/drugreform.html

Sorry to be nit picky, but drugs are usually not bad for you, when taken responsibly of course.

 

[Rob]

How many kids in your school are forced to tale ritalin? Are you aware of the numbers taking aderol?

If someone has nervous tension from modern societal conditions, bad workplace, bills always coming in and they smoke a bowl and sit down and read and surf the net and do artwork, get an appetite that wasn't there and go to sleep waking up refreshed fr another day..something alcohol is notoriously bad for.. is this medicinal or recreational? If medicinal should they have to pay a doctors fee so he can simply sign a document stating you are allowed to smoke? Would people be allowed to grow their own if the medical and distributing cartels were in control of the network for distribution? Should a plant that has intimate body connections to the nervous system of ALL animals higher than the fruit fly on the tree of life and intimately tied to man's agricultural and cultural development be outlawed when it is a part of nature? Can you be criminally liable for externaly possessing a substance the body makes internally?

Got some thinking to do there sonny.

Best Regards
Randy

Are you stoned right now?

 

[Ninja Homer]

RPF members,

I am trying to recruit Medical Marijuana Patients to vote for Ron Paul!

Weedtracker.com is the biggest medical marijuana forum in the country, with thousands of voters visiting every day--

There is already a thread there called "who are the MMJ-friendly candidates?" -- I'm trying my best in that thread to battle against the misinformation being spread by Clinton and Obama supporters, as well as general Ron Paul Haters.

I'm trying my best, but I'm not nearly as skilled in debate as many of the great posters here -- I could use some backup!

http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/sh...dly-55003.html

Thanks to anyone that can help

I guess people didn't realize you dug up a really old post here. Anyway, that link doesn't work. I'm guessing you copied and pasted it from another post rather than pasting the original link.

 

[ValidusCustodiae]

I believe drugs should be banned, just like killing yourself is, the government has to have a say in certain parts of what you do. but ill still support paul

Whoa, awful. The government can't restrict you from ending *your* life, or destroying *your* body, unless it owns them. I don't know about you, but my life and my body do NOT belong to the government and thus are not subject to their discretion. End of story.

 

[sharpsteve2003]

Many people I talk to about Ron are very receptive, until I get to his stance on the "War on Drugs". Several people have accused me of being a pot smoker myself (I'm not), and others are repulsed at the idea of drugs being legal. I find myself unable to omit this part since it's an important issue that I'm passionate about. How should I effectively sell this delicate subject?

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/?tag=War%20On%20Drugs

 

[tomveil]

I just bring up the case of this Florida man:

http://www.painreliefnetwork.org/in-the-spotlight/about-richard-paey/

Cliff's notes: Guy in a terrible accident has a perscription for Vicatin. A LOT of Vicatin. The police thought that there was NO WAY this guy needed so much. So they busted in and arrested him. Mandatory Minimum sentencing required that he get TWENTY-FIVE YEARS, even though they admitted that they had NO evidence that he was selling.

The irony? When he got to prison, they did a medical evaluation AND UPPED HIS DOSAGE!!

Good to see that he FINALLY got pardoned, but how much money was wasted on this BS?

 

[nuklbone]

I'm for legalizing pot but not heroin. No one is going to break into my house and steal my TV so that they can get money for their next "pot fix". They might do it for heroin, though, so I don't want that shit too easy to come by on the street. Heroin ruins people's lives. Everyone knows that. When their lives fall apart, it eventually starts to affect mine and everyone else's. That is one area where I break with RP's stance.

 

[phree]

Sorry to be nit picky, but drugs are usually not bad for you, when taken responsibly of course.

It's a little misleading to say that drugs are usually not bad for you. There are several variables involved, but it's reasonable to say that there is usually a risk at some level of use, and there is often the risk of addiction.

Obviously there is less risk when used in moderation but most drugs including pharmaceuticals have adverse effects. Also a person's tendency to addiction isn't known until they use drugs, so there is an element of risk in even trying them.

I would be a hypocrite to say that no one should ever use recreational drugs, but it's not reasonable to contend that regular use doesn't involve some cost in terms of health.

 

[BenjFranklin]

I believe drugs should be banned, just like killing yourself is, the government has to have a say in certain parts of what you do. but ill still support paul

As the good doctor has said, to advocate freedom doesn't mean to advocate what people do with that freedom.

 

[tomveil]

I'm for legalizing pot but not heroin. No one is going to break into my house and steal my TV so that they can get money for their next "pot fix". They might do it for heroin, though, so I don't want that shit too easy to come by on the street. Heroin ruins people's lives. Everyone knows that. When their lives fall apart, it eventually starts to affect mine and everyone else's. That is one area where I break with RP's stance.

You don't, really disagree with his stance though. Your state would be in charge of deciding what is legal and what isn't. That's a role for state government to play, not federal. Us pot-smoking-hippie-hackey-sackers up here in Washington don't want Florida to tell us what we can and can't do.......

The reality is, in a majority of states nothing would change. In a handful of states, pot would become legal. (And I imagine that when the bottom doesn't drop out of society, more would follow suit)

The federal war on drugs is a waste of time and money, while further expanding government control. States should be able to decide this for themselves, so you don't get federal agents busting into the homes of bed-ridden cancer patients to throw them in prison.

 

[kisstheclowns]

Tell them that since the 70's the rate of drug use has more than doubled. 20% of our jails are filled with none-violent, victimless drug criminals. This is why we have more people in jail then all of the world's jails combined. What the "war" on drugs has done is divided low-income homes by putting fathers and mothers in prison. All that Paul want's to do is put the power in the state's hands. This way, if a grandma in CA has a prescription for Pot to stop her nausea from chemo, the Feds can't come in and raid here home......like they have already done in the past.

Let people live their own lives. If you are an adult, you have the right to decide what you want to do with your time and money. We know the war on drugs doesn't work. It is a waist of money, and resources that has done nothing but make the problem worse. Drugs should not be illegal, not if you don't hurt anyone.

 

[topaz420]

I guess people didn't realize you dug up a really old post here. Anyway, that link doesn't work. I'm guessing you copied and pasted it from another post rather than pasting the original link.

I apologize for not testing out the link:

Fixed Link

I could use some backup in fighting the spread of misinformation!

Thanks