Ron on CNN earlier this morning

[FreeTraveler]

I think they want people to leave the Republican party because they're afraid we're take it back. Think even bigger then Ron Paul, the other candidates don't have any real support, its all talking heads and money.

That's the exact truth. They're scared they'll lose the party to the people. There's another thread going on this, and people voted overwhelmingly to take back the party instead of going Libertarian or a new third party.

 

[FreeTraveler]

what is CFR?

Watch this video, and all will become clear. Warning, though, it's definately a red pill. If you watch this, your life will never be the same. I know, I watched it.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=6632255652046262625&hl=en

 

[MusoSpuso]

This is annoying, Ron Paul has said repeatedly that he isn't running third party. As much of a let down as that may be to some of us, I greatly respect Dr. Paul's word on the matter, and if he has said he won't I sincerely hope he doesn't. That would totally marginalize him by staining his word/ political consistency. We shouldn't be looking for a consolation prize here (a 3rd party run), we should be after the republican nomination, and IF we lose preparing for a long haul changing the party from the ground up and fielding "Ron Paul" candidates at each election at multiple levels. This is how change is created.

To be perfectly clear however, Ron Paul has never (to my knowledge) said that he would never run. He always says he has absolutely no PLAN to run and hasn't even considered it. That doesn't mean that at some point he MAY consider it.

 

[someguy200]

He really needs to reference the fact that everybody has already asked him if he's going to go 3rd party and he's already said no. He doesn't need to actually say this, just imply that the anchor obviously hasn't done any sort of research. If he gets somebody that asked him that before that asks it to him again, he can really make them look dumb without being aggressive or impolite.

 

[Talldude1412]

To be perfectly clear however, Ron Paul has never (to my knowledge) said that he would never run. He always says he has absolutely no PLAN to run and hasn't even considered it. That doesn't mean that at some point he MAY consider it.

lol, that sounds like lawyerism, and Ron Paul is a doctor. Above all else, doctors hate lawyers. So by my interpretation he isn't going to do that. Simply lighting the fire under the people should be enough to enact change.

 

[MusoSpuso]

lol, that sounds like lawyerism, and Ron Paul is a doctor. Above all else, doctors hate lawyers. So by my interpretation he isn't going to do that. Simply lighting the fire under the people should be enough to enact change.

Don't get me wrong, I hate when people ask him that question and I absolutely agree that he should be concentrating on winning the gop nomination. The point I wanted to make was that I wouldn't consider Ron Paul going against his word or that he has less integrity. That's all

 

[adpierce]

Here's the deal... YOUTUBE IT OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN

 

[Bergie Bergeron]

Here's the deal... YOUTUBE IT OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN

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[adpierce]

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GRRR!!! That's a bunch of crap. You do that all the time don't you? I've seen you do it before shame on you for fooling people into watching stupid non-Ron Paul related videos.

 

[Talldude1412]

Don't get me wrong, I hate when people ask him that question and I absolutely agree that he should be concentrating on winning the gop nomination. The point I wanted to make was that I wouldn't consider Ron Paul going against his word or that he has less integrity. That's all

But others certainly would think he has less integrity. And what Dr. Paul has started is much bigger than him, he realizes this and references it frequently. IF he loses the nomination, PLEASE DONT, I think in the name of those who wish to carry on his legacy after this election he better not go 3rd party and become an "election spoiler" to the republicans. The majority of us want to start revamping the party after this election, and we don't want to face the anger of a party that blames Ron Paul for losing in 08'. Do you understand? His message is bigger than him, and has grown exponentially over a single year. After this election, regardless of the outcome, there is essentially a very large energized group of people who like Ron Paul's ideals and will be politically involved (hopefully) for many years to come. I think a 3rd party run would create some major hurdles for such a following in the republican party.

 

[Mark]

GRRR!!! That's a bunch of crap. You do that all the time don't you? I've seen you do it before shame on you for fooling people into watching stupid non-Ron Paul related videos.

Not the first time huh? Then maybe that poster needs to be banned for that junk. I reported the post. I hope the poster gets the message.

 

[Paulitician]

You guys are idiots if you're actually considering a 3rd party/independent run for Ron Paul. Ron Paul has said no one can win in a party outside R and D. I'm sure the media would love him to run 3rd/indie because a) they no longer have to really deal with him, b) they can further marginalize and ridicule him, and c) they could blame him for being a spoiler, ensuring the Dem nominee wins. I mean, sheesh, there is nothing appealing about a 3rd party/independent run to me. It's complete stupidity. Even people right now outside the campaign believe the media's spiel that Ron Paul is going to run in independent/third party and their mad at him for that. I mean seriously people, wake the heck up. I can't believe even fellow Ron Paul supporters are falling for their propaganda.

 

[kylejack]

You guys are idiots if you're actually considering a 3rd party/independent run for Ron Paul. Ron Paul has said no one can win in a party outside R and D. I'm sure the media would love him to run 3rd/indie because a) they no longer have to really deal with him, b) they can further marginalize and ridicule him, and c) they could blame him for being a spoiler, ensuring the Dem nominee wins. I mean, sheesh, there is nothing appealing about a 3rd party/independent run to me. It's complete stupidity. Even people right now outside the campaign believe the media's spiel that Ron Paul is going to run in independent/third party and their mad at him for that. I mean seriously people, wake the heck up. I can't believe even fellow Ron Paul supporters are falling for their propaganda.

If he fails to get the Republican nomination, I sure hope you change your position, because Ron will run, and he'll need your support.

 

[Spirit of '76]

I mean seriously people, wake the heck up. I can't believe even fellow Ron Paul supporters are falling for their propaganda.

I'm starting to think we should encourage the thought that he might, and then ask them, "You don't want Hillary to win do you? Then you'd better nominate Ron."

 

[mordechai]

I really want them to ask Gulianni "If you don't get the republican nomination will you consider running as a liberal?"

I swear, I was so pissed during this debate, I wanted to throw something. What will it take for these fools to realize Paul is serious? He raised 4,000,000 in one day. He's gonna do it again on Dec 16th.

What do we have to do, literally throw a ton of Lipton into the Boston harbour? March on Washington dressed in three corner caps or bonnets, with muskets and pitchforks? What???

McCain isn't even in this race anymore. Guiliani can't and won't win. Huckabee and Romney are the only serious comp Paul faces at this time, and soon, Romney won't be a factor.

AHHHHH!!!

(Okay, rant off)

 

[Talldude1412]

If he fails to get the Republican nomination, I sure hope you change your position, because Ron will run, and he'll need your support.

He will not run 3rd party. If he does he will create major hurdles for his ideals, and may just end up marginalizing his supporters. His stances will go nowhere. If he remains true to what he has been saying we will not be facing an inherently pissed off republican party that blames him for losing in 08'. If our cause is to continue beyond this election he needs to not run 3rd party. So his newfound politically energized followers can start creating change from the ground up. Another 3rd party will be just as politically meaningless as Libertarians and green party. Face it, they have little to no effect on politics in this country. Our best bet to effect change in our nation is by revamping a current political party.

 

[scrosnoe]

simple really

Republicans will nominate Ron Paul in order to win in November 2008

is now part of my tag line . . .

 

[runderwo]

If he fails to get the Republican nomination, I sure hope you change your position, because Ron will run, and he'll need your support.

That "IF" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, if we allow the notion of a third party run to impede our efforts to spread the message to people who will vote in the Republican primary.

 

[Paulitician]

That "IF" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, if we allow the notion of a third party run to impede our efforts to spread the message to people who will vote in the Republican primary.

I agree. Shove that kind of talk until after 3 months or so like Ron Paul said yesterday, if you must. But it serves absolutely no purpose right now.

 

[JimDude]

I'm starting to think we should encourage the thought that he might, and then ask them, "You don't want Hillary to win do you? Then you'd better nominate Ron."

hillary scares the pants off me dude, and no, im not a pervert.