Ron needs to call a press conference and say...

Curlz31 is an Australian, what the holy heck are we listening to him for? Letting him get involved in the Internal Affairs of America? Sounds about as constitutional as the Fed to me.

Go worry about your own country kid, you got a lot to be worried about from what I hear.

P4J
 
Constipublican party ;)

(sounds a bit too much like constipated party tho lol)

yeah, it does lead me to want to take some ExLax....actually, today makes me feel like I need some 'stimulus'. *ahem* but I digress....

I do kind of like the idea of a "new party", however, should a legitimitate option arise for a new party, how can we make sure we don't end up w/ poor support ala all other 3rd parties? The current laws still work against them. How do we prevent that from happening?
 
Ron Paul already has a pro-liberty third party waiting for him, and he knows it. He's not going to forsake a long and close relationship with the Libertarian Party.

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You're basically admitting you have no idea what you are talking about. A 3rd party has zero chance of accomplishing change at the rate of fascist shift in my lifetime, let alone in Ron Pauls.

Do you people actually live on planet earth, and understand what we are up against? It's not internet or media censorship. It's the most powerful and rich people in the world, for the last several hundred years.

They have a massive head start, and folks like you are proposing starting over and shooting everyone the finger on the way.

You show ZERO respect for Republicans who support Ron Paul and the traditional party position.

Which frankly, is a lot more support than the so-called internet supporters who can't even be bothered to find out where to vote, let alone volunteer to be a delegate.

You know what? Fuck the Republican party and fuck saving the Republican party.

An independent run could do one critical thing: insure that the GOP suffers a defeat of historic proportions in 2008.

Taking 3-7% of the Republican vote in each state and bailing with it would teach these motherfuckers a lesson once and for all.

I would rather the open and admitted big government party win than a party full of liars who spout BS about small government and then support Bushite candidates.
 
You know what? Fuck the Republican party and fuck saving the Republican party.

An independent run could do one critical thing: insure that the GOP suffers a defeat of historic proportions in 2008.

Taking 3-7% of the Republican vote in each state and bailing with it would teach these motherfuckers a lesson once and for all.

I would rather the open and admitted big government party win than a party full of liars who spout BS about small government and then support Bushite candidates.

i agree man. fuck the GOP, a bunch of god-damn liars and crooks
 
Curlz31 is an Australian, what the holy heck are we listening to him for? Letting him get involved in the Internal Affairs of America? Sounds about as constitutional as the Fed to me.

Go worry about your own country kid, you got a lot to be worried about from what I hear.

P4J

How dare you sir.

- I have donated at least a thousand dollars to grassroots efforts.
- I have been finding American citizens in Australia to vote for him.
- The New World Order won't confine itself to the US and Europe.
- I spend 8 hours a day doing work for Dr Paul online.
- There are Australian troops fighting with Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq.
- I care about others.
- I had an American soldier email me via my website (australians4ronpaul.com) and say he felt a special connection with the Australian troops he served with and that he was eternally grateful for my help.

If you think this cause is confined to the US, you are wrong.
 
i agree man. fuck the GOP, a bunch of god-damn liars and crooks

Ah, wisdom.

Yes fuck the GOP :mad:, and fuck the democrats too. :mad:

BOTH are liberal socialist communist fabian trotsky scum....:mad::mad::mad:

I don't care if side show Bob is on the libertarian ticket, that is who has my vote.

Come on Ron, fight this one til November, we've spent a fortune on this campaign....as for minutes to talk radio, you wouldn't believe me if I told you...
 
You know what? Fuck the Republican party and fuck saving the Republican party.

An independent run could do one critical thing: insure that the GOP suffers a defeat of historic proportions in 2008.

Taking 3-7% of the Republican vote in each state and bailing with it would teach these motherfuckers a lesson once and for all.

I would rather the open and admitted big government party win than a party full of liars who spout BS about small government and then support Bushite candidates.

Exactly. You screw up their false paradigm with the independent run.

Plus we have the excitement of keeping the movement going.
 
Now that would thrill me.

"The Republican Party no longer stands for fiscal conservatism, small government and individual liberty. Therefore I am announcing the formation of a new party that is going to destroy the big government socialist Republican party. A party that will NEVER move away from the constitution and true conservatism. Thank You. Now go f*ck yourself media."

hehe

But really, he should.

we can only wish.:cool:
 
If we could get the constitution party to take out all of their theocrocy junk, we could possibly use their name.
 
You're basically admitting you have no idea what you are talking about. A 3rd party has zero chance of accomplishing change at the rate of fascist shift in my lifetime, let alone in Ron Pauls.

An alternative candidate inside one of the two parties has the same exact main obstacle facing him/her as does one running 3rd party---namely, a mass media that will blackout all coverage of them on a dime, whenever they feel like it. It has NOTHING to do with existing party organization vs starting from scratch, it has everything to do with the establishment's structural suppression of alternative candidates, whether inside or outside the 2 party system.

It is THAT obstacle that has killed third party runs for decades, not lack of organization. No coverage = no visibility = no fundraising = few votes. The internet has provided a viable and efficient means of putting together a coalition, a communication hub and (this cycle) a serious fundraising vehicle, to workaround the media shutout. But the silicon ceiling is still there, and is hard to burst through, be the person a Republican, Democrat or independent candidate.

Historically, party change happens when one major party IMPLODES and goes out of existence, as with the Whigs in the 1850's. The old wineskin was NOT transformed from within, it was scrapped and replaced with a new wineskin. God speed those trying to transform the GOP, but I'm not holding my breath, and think the going is just as hard as going 3rd party. This cycle is so far showing battling the elite is about as difficult either way.
 
Third-party run is necessary at this point, to keep our foot-soldiers working. We need to be getting more precinct captains, meetups, etc. Constantly building, so that we can win next time.
 
If we could get the constitution party to take out all of their theocrocy junk, we could possibly use their name.

Why? The Libertarians have been running the actual Constitutionalist like Paul, Badnarik, and Browne for decades. Which is why Paul has always maintained close ties with the LP, including endorsing and speaking for their candidates.
 
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