Ron is committed to a brokered convention, GOOD OR BAD??

[f16weav]

3rd party is nearly impossible....take a look at Ross Perot's first 3rd party run....nearly 19 million votes....second time he ran both parties excluded him and basically he was little or no impact. Also consider when it comes down to Two Party Debates....each has to approve adding a 3rd or 4th party and since Perot, in their opinion, "stole" 19% votes, I doubt they'll let anyone even close to voice his opinion...it would be a great platform for RP.

 

[PaleoForPaul]

3rd party is nearly impossible....take a look at Ross Perot's first 3rd party run....nearly 19 million votes....

He had 19% of the vote...If he had 13% more, he'd be president.

Think about that, we were 13% of the vote away from having a third party president.

It's not as impossible as you think, especially with the internet being what it is today.

 

[MN Patriot]

He had 19% of the vote...If he had 13% more, he'd be president.

Think about that, we were 13% of the vote away from having a third party president.

It's not as impossible as you think, especially with the internet being what it is today.

The internet might be a big factor in the success of a third party candidate. Then if Bloomberg runs to stoke his ego, and Nader runs to tell us the world is ending, they might attract enough votes so that Ron could take the election.

In Minnesota in 1998, Reform Party candidate Jesse Ventura shocked the world by beating two career politicians for the governor race. It isn't unprecedented for a third party candidate to win a major election.

 

[ValidusCustodiae]

Uh, what about the fact that many states have laws prohibiting 3rd party candidates to get on ballots when they have already lost the nomination of another party? Ron Paul has remarked about this himself as one of the biggest reasons a 3rd party run is not part of his plans.

All of you that keep pushing thinking we could win as 3rd party need to ADDRESS THIS COLD HARD FACT.

 

[bonium]

Someone had mentioned earlier that a third party run would make the other republicans unelectable.

They already are!

I know many republicans including myself and my family who have always voted, good or bad for the republicans.

This time if there is no Ron, there is no vote!

If you disenfranchise me, I disenfranchise you!

 

[RTMC]

If there is no Ron Paul, I will write him in!

 

[MN Patriot]

Uh, what about the fact that many states have laws prohibiting 3rd party candidates to get on ballots when they have already lost the nomination of another party? Ron Paul has remarked about this himself as one of the biggest reasons a 3rd party run is not part of his plans.

All of you that keep pushing thinking we could win as 3rd party need to ADDRESS THIS COLD HARD FACT.

I addressed this earlier in this thread. Not a big issue. Only 4 states have sore loser laws, only Texas and Ohio are of major consequence. With Ron's publicity, it could be turned into a major issue of the corruption of the two old parties.

http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/01/12/sore-loser-laws-dont-generally-apply-to-presidential-candidates/

If Paul fails to win the Republican presidential nomination, he could then seek the Libertarian nomination (which he would be virtually certain to obtain) and run in November as the Libertarian nominee. John Anderson established the precedent in most states that “sore loser” laws do not apply to presidential candidates. John Anderson ran in two-thirds of the 1980 Republican presidential primaries, and he also won a place on the November 1980 ballots as an independent candidate in all 50 states.
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Only four states maintain that their “sore loser” laws apply to president: South Dakota, Mississippi, Ohio and Texas.

 

[Crickett]

Well, the Constitution Party just endorsed Paul, as he is..so if it is big, he already has all of their votes!

 

[PaleoForPaul]

Uh, what about the fact that many states have laws prohibiting 3rd party candidates to get on ballots when they have already lost the nomination of another party? Ron Paul has remarked about this himself as one of the biggest reasons a 3rd party run is not part of his plans.

All of you that keep pushing thinking we could win as 3rd party need to ADDRESS THIS COLD HARD FACT.

1. Only a few states have this law
2. It's been challenged before, and beaten in court.
3. Go google it for yourself for more COLD HARD FACTS.
4. I've been calling for RP to run third party since before the primaries started.

 

[Feelgood]

God damn, I just want to bitch slap every third party talking troll in these forums. I swear to God they make me sick. You wanna talk your third party crap, PLEASE take it elsewhere. It is neither wanted nor appreciated here. It is Republican or nothing, we are in it to win it. If you cant be a part of that, PLEASE do us all a favor, and just go away. Im banking even RP would agree with this.

Thank you.

 

[fmontez]

There will be no third party run, Ron Paul has made it really clear... 99.99% no chance. There will not be a brokered convention... we will have a couple front runners after Super Tuesday.

Ron Paul's Revolution will most likely be his leverage on the GOP nominee... if you guys are serious about this movement I suggest you suck it up and prepare yourself to vote for a Republican, tossing your vote away on a third party candidate or a write-in is a vote to abolish the Constitution.. Obama or Hilary would be using it for toliet paper in the White House.

Now, it is possible that Ron Paul would get the nomination. I may get flamed for this but I don't think he is really interested in getting to the general election anymore... my gut tells me that there is a lot to this Newsletter story, not that he wrote the articles himself, but there is something there and I think it excludes him from winning a general election.

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

Hopefully he will get the nomination of more than one party.

 

[Matt Collins]

if you guys are serious about this movement I suggest you suck it up and prepare yourself to vote for a Republican, tossing your vote away on a third party candidate or a write-in is a vote to abolish the Constitution.. Obama or Hilary would be using it for toliet paper in the White House.

You fail to see what many Republicans also fail to see...


Through the lens of the Ron Paul platform, from the perspective of Constitutionality, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OTHER DEM AND REPUB CANDIDATES!!!!

If one votes for any other other Republican candidates it's a vote for fascism. If you vote for any of the Democrat candidates it's a vote for communism/socialism.

The GOP doesn't "get it" and realize that the majority of RP supporters will sit out, do a write in, or vote 3rd party if RP doesn't get the nomination.

LET ME REPEAT THIS:
If RON PAUL DOESN'T GET THE NOMINATION, THE GOP WILL LOSE!
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[scrosnoe]

We are trying to warn them . . .

LET ME REPEAT THIS:
If RON PAUL DOESN'T GET THE NOMINATION, THE GOP WILL LOSE!
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QFT

My dear GOP friends, we are trying to warn you and bring you a great treasure as well - please heed this warning - the future of the country is at stake!

 

[AircooledVW]

I personally refuse to vote for any other GOP candidate other than RON PAUL. That was a period after that sentence.

 

[MN Patriot]

God damn, I just want to bitch slap every third party talking troll in these forums. I swear to God they make me sick. You wanna talk your third party crap, PLEASE take it elsewhere. It is neither wanted nor appreciated here. It is Republican or nothing, we are in it to win it. If you cant be a part of that, PLEASE do us all a favor, and just go away. Im banking even RP would agree with this.

Thank you.

Freedom of speech is a GOOD thing, and I intend to exercise it. So apparently you have more devotion to the Republican Party than you do to the principles of freedom and limited government? Who is the REAL troll here?

You need to be a realist, Ron has been doing poorly so far. Yes, a distant second in Nevada is encouraging, but the mainstream media and political Establishment, which the Republican Party is part of, DO NOT want Ron involved in any of this. They try to ignore him and smear him if they can't get away with ignoring him.

This revolution is more than the 2008 presidential election, it is about establishing a foundation of a libertarian (/ old school conservative) political organization that can take our republic back. By May, if it is apparent that Ron won't get enough delegates for the Republican nomination, he should switch parties and strongly urge his supporters to follow him. The Republican Party should be well aware that this is a very real possibility, that now is the time to choose Ron as the candidate, or else whoever they pick will not win because Ron's candidacy as a third party candidate will take votes away from them. IF he does get the Republican nomination, GREAT! But I doubt it will happen.

If Ron gets enough precinct captains, and if the Libertarian Party can run congressional candidates in every district to keep spreading the word, Ron COULD win. The biggest challenge is overcoming the MSM. Perhaps this would be the event where people will wake up to how they are being manipulated by the Establishment propaganda machine. The vast majority of millionaires and billionaires don't care about what happends to average Americans, they got theirs and now that they have the power to manipulate government in their favor they've forgotten about the rest of us.

And if the Republican Party gets decimated because of all of this? So what. They had it coming. If Hillary and her band of socialists get in power, it might wake up even more Americans to our cause, so that in 4 years we can get more libertarians in office.

 

[joelfarm]

Ditto

I personally refuse to vote for any other GOP candidate other than RON PAUL. That was a period after that sentence.

I would only re-phrase it to- any OTHER CANDIDATE other than Ron Paul. I refuse to hold my nose and vote for the "lesser of two evils" and challenge all others to do so as well.