Romney’s Worst Nightmare: Palin and Paul

[CPUd]

Romney’s Worst Nightmare: Palin and Paul

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Several colleagues and I recently had a forty-five-minute meeting with Ron Paul, and it was more than just a bit revealing. Although I am not at liberty to share much of what was discussed, let it suffice to say that Paul will not be speaking at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, nor can you expect to find any of his immensely popular ideas incorporated into the party platform.

MittMan and his wave-averse team of advisors apparently are intent on sticking to their game plan of putting out lots of gobbledygook, sidestepping controversy, and silencing would-be wave-makers. Anyone who knows anything about politics realizes that controversy is anathema to an unprincipled politician who is obsessed with winning an election at any cost.

Awhile back, Grover Norquist wrote that “Ron Paul is the only candidate for the Republican nomination whose endorsement will matter to Mitt Romney. It is the only endorsement that will bring votes and the only endorsement, if withheld, that could cost Romney the general election.”

Norquist was right then, and he’s even more right today. Bad news for Romney: Paul will not be giving him an endorsement, and, as a result, many Paulists will either be voting for Gary Johnson or sitting out the election entirely.
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http://robertringer.com/2012/07/romneys-worst-nightmare-palin-and-paul/

 

[tbone717]

From the article: "Bad news for Romney: Paul will not be giving him an endorsement, and, as a result, many Paulists will either be voting for Gary Johnson or sitting out the election entirely."

I really do not think there are that many people basing their voting decision on Paul's endorsement. Personally, I think if Ron did endorse Romney there would be a group that calls Ron a sellout and votes for Johnson or sits out the election. When you read through forums like this and other related sites do you really think that some of these people will suddenly vote for Romney because Ron endorsed him? I don't. So the people that are voting for Johnson and/or sitting out are pretty much the same either way. How many votes those people actually amount to has yet to be seen.

I'd be curious to see if there are many on this site that would say, "At the present time I am not voting for Romney, but if Ron Paul endorsed Romney I would vote for him."

 

[Sola_Fide]

Although I am not at liberty to share much of what was discussed, let it suffice to say that Paul will not be speaking at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, nor can you expect to find any of his immensely popular ideas incorporated into the party platform.

This has been my prediction all along.

 

[CPUd]

I think they are getting ready to unseat delegates (which is also what I thought would eventually happen when I started following this election cycle a year ago). They know they are not going to be able to do it quietly, so I would expect when the uproar begins, they will announce a running mate to keep everything else off the MSM.

 

[truthspeaker]

I distinctly remember that those who participated in the Washington Tea Party protest were polled. I think it was back in 2010. 50% of them liked Ron Paul. Guess who the other 50% of them liked--Sarah Palin.

This means that Romney could very well not only lose our vote, but the real Tea Partiers as well.

 

[A_Silent_Majority_Member]

Several colleagues and I recently had a 1 hour meeting with Ron Paul, and it was more than just a bit revealing. Not only does he believe that if we keep pushing we will rock the convention in tampa but we will be fighting for more than just a candidate and more than just a political party... but that we will be fighting and have the power to change the country!

See how it works?

Ron Paul NOT Gary Johnson 2012!

 

[cajuncocoa]

But it’s even worse than that for Romney. To the great annoyance of the Republican establishment, Tea Party favorite Sarah Palin has never officially endorsed him. Worse, on numerous occasions she has warned the Romney people that they had better pay attention to Ron Paul’s message.

When has Sarah Palin said this? Is there a link to that?

 

[cajuncocoa]

I think they are getting ready to unseat delegates

I expect to hear this as well.

 

[Origanalist]

I expect to hear this as well.

It would be in character.

 

[TrishW]

Sarah Palin's comment was, You Had Better Not Marginalize Ron Paul!”

Just do a search on Sarah Palin comments on Ron Paul. You will see that she also agrees with his foreign and economic policies of a smaller government.

Alternate Republican Party .... Ron Paul with VP Sarah Palin!

Now that would be a nightmare for both the Democrats and the regular Republican Parties.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Sarah Palin's comment was, You Had Better Not Marginalize Ron Paul!”

Just do a search on Sarah Palin comments on Ron Paul. You will see that she also agrees with his foreign and economic policies of a smaller government.

Alternate Republican Party .... Ron Paul with VP Sarah Palin!

Now that would be a nightmare for both the Democrats and the regular Republican Parties.

She doesn't agree with RP on foreign policy. That is where they diverge. Most everything else, yes.

The whole Israel deal with the belief that they are God's chosen people, is really hard for a lot of people to get past. I hope our movement figures out a constructive way to combat that they have to support foreign interventionism for them to support Israel's existence or adhere to God's word. Insulting them, or Israel, is not the way though. In fact, it does the opposite.

Trish, Bill Kristol advised Sarah Palin early on. I would imagine her foreign policy came a lot from him.

 

[CPUd]

Some of her lines on RP, either she got from Gingrich, or vice versa. I think Newt was the one she really wanted to win.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Some of her lines on RP, either she got from Gingrich, or vice versa. I think Newt was the one she really wanted to win.

Yes. That is who she seemed to endorse. I would like to believe that she didn't know that his rhetoric did not match his actions, but that is probably rather far-fetched.

 

[specsaregood]

I really do not think there are that many people basing their voting decision on Paul's endorsement. Personally, I think if Ron did endorse Romney there would be a group that calls Ron a sellout and votes for Johnson or sits out the election. When you read through forums like this and other related sites do you really think that some of these people will suddenly vote for Romney because Ron endorsed him? I don't.

I think a great many would and not as much just because it is Paul but rather if for whatever reason he did endorse him I'm pretty darned sure he'd tell you exactly why and it would probably be quite logical.

 

[Tod]

When has Sarah Palin said this? Is there a link to that?

http://ronpaulflix.com/2012/01/sara...d-better-not-marginalize-ron-paul-jan-3-2012/

 

[TrishW]

She doesn't agree with RP on foreign policy. That is where they diverge. Most everything else, yes.

The whole Israel deal with the belief that they are God's chosen people, is really hard for a lot of people to get past. I hope our movement figures out a constructive way to combat that they have to support foreign interventionism for them to support Israel's existence or adhere to God's word. Insulting them, or Israel, is not the way though. In fact, it does the opposite.

Trish, Bill Kristol advised Sarah Palin early on. I would imagine her foreign policy came a lot from him.

yes, I know... She stands by Israel. BUT research a bit further and you will see that she has spoken up for Ron Paul saying he is the only candidate that does promotes peace talks over war. She has spoken against many of our international involvements.

She does like Ron Paul on the foreign policy front... she just does not yet know it. She has fallen for the "isolationist" hype. She would fully support a president that would talk peace, and only go to war as an act of Congress.

ONE MORE TIME! If Ron Paul wants to be a Republican, than he can break it in two the same way the Church split ... We can be the Protest..

Alternate Republican Party! Ron Paul and Sarah Palin! In it to win it!! (or at least raise hell!)

We would not have to worry about media coverage. lol They would be all over this!

 

[georgiaboy]

Several colleagues and I recently had a 1 hour meeting with Ron Paul, and it was more than just a bit revealing. Not only does he believe that if we keep pushing we will rock the convention in tampa but we will be fighting for more than just a candidate and more than just a political party... but that we will be fighting and have the power to change the country!

See how it works?

Ron Paul NOT Gary Johnson 2012!

Elaborate, please.

One data point that tends to corroborate your statements -- on C-SPAN this morning, Ron said that he thought his delegate supporters in Tampa could be in the 500 or more range.

 

[Viperscale]

I would vote for Romney if Paul endorsed him.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

yes, I know... She stands by Israel. BUT research a bit further and you will see that she has spoken up for Ron Paul saying he is the only candidate that does promotes peace talks over war. She has spoken against many of our international involvements.

She does like Ron Paul on the foreign policy front... she just does not yet know it. She has fallen for the "isolationist" hype. She would fully support a president that would talk peace, and only go to war as an act of Congress.

ONE MORE TIME! If Ron Paul wants to be a Republican, than he can break it in two the same way the Church split ... We can be the Protest..

Alternate Republican Party! Ron Paul and Sarah Palin! In it to win it!! (or at least raise hell!)

We would not have to worry about media coverage. lol They would be all over this!

Why do people (especially on this forum of all places) continue to defend Palin and act as if she's on Paul's side? The only reason why she says anything remotely positive about Paul is just to fool Paul supporters into thinking that the GOP is moving towards a libertarian-lite direction and therefore will vote for Republican candidates. She has done and said nothing to warrant trust and is merely an opportunist.

 

[sailingaway]

From the article: "Bad news for Romney: Paul will not be giving him an endorsement, and, as a result, many Paulists will either be voting for Gary Johnson or sitting out the election entirely."

I really do not think there are that many people basing their voting decision on Paul's endorsement. Personally, I think if Ron did endorse Romney there would be a group that calls Ron a sellout and votes for Johnson or sits out the election. When you read through forums like this and other related sites do you really think that some of these people will suddenly vote for Romney because Ron endorsed him? I don't. So the people that are voting for Johnson and/or sitting out are pretty much the same either way. How many votes those people actually amount to has yet to be seen.

I'd be curious to see if there are many on this site that would say, "At the present time I am not voting for Romney, but if Ron Paul endorsed Romney I would vote for him."

I'd vote for Ron as VP if he were VP and we nominated him from the floor for that. I'd expect him to be an independent voice, and Romney would have to decide he wanted to win more than be unchallenged to do it. It will not happen.

I can't see Ron endorsing Romney.