Romney's Illinois chairman takes Ron Paul sign out and throws it down

You guys are totally out of line IMHO....you don't see any of what actually happened in that video....for all we know someone was sticking that Ron Paul sign where it shouldn't have been prior to be stepped on. From the way the video looks to me, I think the zealous Paul supporters were more like "protesters" than there to join the Republicans proud of Paul and wanting the Party to consider voting for him.......

acting like rude activists is NO WAY going to endear these folks to Dr. Paul (and I am sure he would be ashamed).....we NEED republicans to win a REPUBLICAN PRIMARY....

GROW UP
 
Surf what are you ashamed of???

Maybe you should consider that some people there for Paul might need to apologize and you should be ashamed of them.

this is ridiculous unless you saw "the whole story" and not some "snippet" taken out of context.


surf said:
i emailed this to Rutherford. Hope it's well received....

Dear Mr. Rutherford,
After reading of the events this past week at the Illinois Straw Poll, I want you to know that I am ashamed that you are a member of my Republican Party.

Please restore some dignity to the GOP and issue an apology to the individuals for the childish acts you performed.

Sincerely,
xxx
48th District PCO
Redmond, Washington
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fj45lvr said:
You guys are totally out of line IMHO....you don't see any of what actually happened in that video....for all we know someone was sticking that Ron Paul sign where it shouldn't have been prior to be stepped on. From the way the video looks to me, I think the zealous Paul supporters were more like "protesters" than there to join the Republicans proud of Paul and wanting the Party to consider voting for him.......

acting like rude activists is NO WAY going to endear these folks to Dr. Paul (and I am sure he would be ashamed).....we NEED republicans to win a REPUBLICAN PRIMARY....

GROW UP
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So we're jumping to conclusions, but you're not? You must know exactly what happened then? Unless you're somehow more informed about this situation than the rest of us, you're in no position telling anyone to grow up, or anything else.

It's hard to imagine a situation that would truly warrant someone grabbing a sign from a protester, throwing it on the ground, standing on it, and refusing to move. Really.
 
fj45lvr said:
You guys are totally out of line IMHO....you don't see any of what actually happened in that video....for all we know someone was sticking that Ron Paul sign where it shouldn't have been prior to be stepped on. From the way the video looks to me, I think the zealous Paul supporters were more like "protesters" than there to join the Republicans proud of Paul and wanting the Party to consider voting for him.......

acting like rude activists is NO WAY going to endear these folks to Dr. Paul (and I am sure he would be ashamed).....we NEED republicans to win a REPUBLICAN PRIMARY....

GROW UP
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Talking about jumping to conclusions. And no matter what the supporter was doing you do not have a right to assault someone or to steal their property.

Why don't you grow up and read the Constitution.

--Dustan
 
Don't get mad... GET EVEN

And the way we can do that is to WIN THE UPCOMING TEXAS STRAW POLL.

To do that, your help is badly needed. There is an effort underway to call all 17,000 of the delegates who are allowed to vote in this straw poll.

Please help!

Everything you need to sign-up and get started is in the first post of the following thread.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=12495

If we can pull this off folks, this will be HUGE. Again, please help.
 
slantedview said:
Unless you're somehow more informed about this situation than the rest of us, you're in no position telling anyone to grow up, or anything else.
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dude.....think about it.

Sending off a letter to this guys office from seeing this video clip??

I have yet to hear or see anything that tells "the whole story"

YOU are CORRECT about me not "knowing" but look at this thread and it is ridiculous that folks are "jumping to conclusions". Do you like how the guys are telling him "fuck it dude"? that's just ridiculous.

that's like the assertion that Paul is racist because he should know the content of his newsletters.l
 
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Given time to think about it. I think it would have been a good idea for the guy who owned the sign to bend down, act like he was trying to get his sign, then stand up real quick and "accidentally"nail him in the chin with the back of his head. That way it would just look like an accident. LOL Pricks like that deserve no less.
 
I think the video shows how polite and respectful RP supporters are and what a thug Romney supporter and IL Senator Dan Rutherford is.

Who is this very large guy stepping on the sign that Rutherford handed him? Some paid henchman of Rutherford's?
 
slantedview said:
So we're jumping to conclusions, but you're not? You must know exactly what happened then? Unless you're somehow more informed about this situation than the rest of us, you're in no position telling anyone to grow up, or anything else.

It's hard to imagine a situation that would truly warrant someone grabbing a sign from a protester, throwing it on the ground, standing on it, and refusing to move. Really.
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Romney's people were in the wrong, there were tons of state police there all they had to do is ask one to help out if there was a problem, rather than taking matters into their own hands and making a scene. However, and keep in mind I was actually there, the RP supporters weren't in the right either. Instead of picking the whole thing apart, let me just say what my wife who is not a Ron Paul supporter said about it as she was waiting for me on a bench directly across from where this happened.

She told me that after seeing how the Ron Paul supporters act, she has no intention of ever supporting Ron Paul. It took me a good long while to convince her that its a minority of supporters that become agressive and cross the line. She also told me that the guy who had his sign stood on was screaming and swearing directly infront of another supporter and his children. She said the man covered his children's ears and asked the angry supporter if that was necessary.

I stayed out of it, I'm not going to allow myself to be associated with that sort of behavior. Its good to support Ron Paul, but not good to push it to the point of giving him a negative appearance. My wife also said that the chairman who ripped the sign out of that guys hand was talking on the phone to Romney asking him where he was (Romney did show up later, gah he is so out of touch with most American's). She said the chairman told Romney that Ron Paul's campaign manager had some very good points, but his supporters are insane. I know you wont care about that, but it is good to know what your opponents are saying about you. Also, what some call insanity isnt really insanity its just passion.

So what do I think you should do. Well, I think you should be aware that both parties were in the wrong and I do actually hate that jerk that was standing on the sign. I'm not going to make a big deal out of it because I know it was a situation where most everyone was being respectful, yet about 3 or 4 on both sides turned it into a bad thing. You of course can complain if you want especially if you weren't there. Definitely feel free to complain about the guy that stood on the sign cause hes just plain repulsive in person.
 
Romney people are upset because they are targeting these straw polls as media events for themselves. They don't want any other candidates actively competing in these events. Romney winning this small poll generated free publicity for him. His only other active competition is Ron Paul. When the cameras are rolling they don't want Ron Paul signs around.
 
Sean said:
Romney people are upset because they are targeting these straw polls as media events for themselves. They don't want any other candidates actively competing in these events. Romney winning this small poll generated free publicity for him. His only other active competition is Ron Paul. When the cameras are rolling they don't want Ron Paul signs around.
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I suggest everyone bring RP signs to Romney events any chance they get, especially when there are cameras around. As much as Mitt is on tv, thats tons of free name recognition for Ron Paul.:D Everywhere they see Mitt, they also see the Ron Paul name. Subliminal messages do wonders.
 
fj45lvr said:
dude.....think about it.

Sending off a letter to this guys office from seeing this video clip??

I have yet to hear or see anything that tells "the whole story"

YOU are CORRECT about me not "knowing" but look at this thread and it is ridiculous that folks are "jumping to conclusions". Do you like how the guys are telling him "fuck it dude"? that's just ridiculous.

that's like the assertion that Paul is racist because he should know the content of his newsletters.l
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OK...I've made my assertation of you. More on that later.

First off, what part of him stepping on someone else's property is not a violation to you?

2nd..LISTEN to the video....They didn't tell him to 'fuck it dude'. They said, 'gimme my sign back'...and he wouldn't...so the guy said 'fuck it dude...whatever then'.

Either you're a well control troll from the other campaign, or you're worse....and I'm not going to go into name calling because I've lost my cool here once, and I'd prefer to not do it again...

But if you were sitting in front of me....you'd know exactly what I think.


Oh, and to whoever said that if they'd been there, this guy would've lost that sign.....I would've helped you.
 
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