Romney's Illinois chairman takes Ron Paul sign out and throws it down

[Sean]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-straw_poll_web_aug17,1,5128267.story

"Paul's libertarian stylings and campaign of strict interpretation of the Constitution has earned him an unorthodox band of sign-carrying supporters. They frequently interrupted TV reports of the event and at one point, Romney's Illinois chairman, state Sen. Dan Rutherford (R-Chenoa), ripped a sign out of one Paul supporter's hands and threw it on the ground."



I wonder just what interrupting TV reports means. Romney supporters are probably angry that there are more Paul supporters showing up around cameras. I wish I can see video of this. Romney's chairman wanting all the media attention and gets mad at a Ron Paul supporter.

 

[B964]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl-JCyiBNao

Near the end is where the guy is stepping on the Ron Paul sign.

One thing I would say is that instead of just chanting Ron Paul, we should be taking out more of the issues. A parade of people with the front person bull horning the issues, followed by "Ron Paul for president" by everyone else.

 

[quickmike]

Dan Rutherford

Chenoa, IL 61726-0000 (map)

Tel.: (815) 945-4901

http://phone.people.yahoo.com/py/lg...enoa&state=IL&zip=61726-0000&phone=8159454901

Just in case anyone wanted to call and kindly thank the man for being such a "swell" guy

 

[Johnnybags]

Priceless Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl-JCyiBNao

Near the end is where the guy is stepping on the Ron Paul sign.

One thing I would say is that instead of just chanting Ron Paul, we should be taking out more of the issues. A parade of people with the front person bull horning the issues, followed by "Ron Paul for president" by everyone else.

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That guys heart rate was probably 220 bpm's. We are starting to annoy the old guard who simply do not realize the so called frontrunners cannot be elected. I think the lady asked him if he was the strong arm of the party? LOL.

 

[Sean]

Lol, Romney's campaign chairman is a tool. Look at the anger in his face.

 

[Sean]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl-JCyiBNao



One thing I would say is that instead of just chanting Ron Paul, we should be taking out more of the issues. A parade of people with the front person bull horning the issues, followed by "Ron Paul for president" by everyone else.

Sounds like a good idea. Most people don't know anything about a candidate or their positions. This would give people an idea who Ron Paul is and what he supports.

 

[philipsantamaria]

first they ignore you
then they laugh at you
then they fight you
then you win

we've been ignored and laughed at
and now the fight has begun

 

[Cowlesy]

Yeah, that guy was clearly a jackass. Hopefully no RP supporter's action precipitated that response. Even if it did, freezing out those frames of him and getting it circulated could definitely be helpful.

I still think that laypeople associate RP supporters' demeanor with that of Ron Paul. That being the case, it's always best to be as sweet as peach pie when speaking to those who know nothing about him, or doing public demonstrations. I wish there was a way to convey to those people who everyone marches by that the message has been so inspirational that it makes politics fun, and that people who march by yelling "Ron Paul" are having a great time, and are not "angry at the establishment" (though they may be).

 

[fj45lvr]

kind of a two edged sword here........nice to see people that are excited (with good reason) for the hope of a man like paul as prez.......at the same time I am somewhat concerned too that like in Iowa that Paul supporters may be potentially a little "rude" in their behavior which could end up hurting Paul.....I could never imagine Paul himself doing that to others (if in fact paul supporters were disrupting others that may have wanted to have a conversation or potentially interrupting a speech (like they did in Iowa which = "no class"

there's a way to be respectful and enthusiastic.....paul supporters must realize that they have to energize the republican base unless they actually believe that there is going to be enough folks that are going to "register" republican to overcome the perennial GOP voters

Isn't it funny that the MOST CONSERVATIVE candidate has more of the "hippie" retreads show up for support?? its almost mind blowing and unbelievable. Let's hope that the "old guard" isn't deluded into thinking that somehow PAUL is just a "left wing conspiracy"....that would just be TRAGIC. The Conservatives NEED PAUL to actually win and stop the socialists.

 

[10thAmendmentMan]

If someone cuts out the beginning and just posts just the Romney-Guy-Standing-On-A-Sign-While-Pouting bit, that would get a lot of attention across the internet.

 

[fj45lvr]

the Tribune stated,

"Paul's libertarian stylings and campaign of strict interpretation of the Constitution has earned him an unorthodox band of sign-carrying supporters."

lets just hope that "unorthodox band" means has more than just a pulse instead of what I am afraid it means: interupting "assholes".

We want folks to see support and VOTE for PAUL not just be "activists".

 

[quickmike]

kind of a two edged sword here........nice to see people that are excited (with good reason) for the hope of a man like paul as prez.......at the same time I am somewhat concerned too that like in Iowa that Paul supporters may be potentially a little "rude" in their behavior which could end up hurting Paul.....I could never imagine Paul himself doing that to others (if in fact paul supporters were disrupting others that may have wanted to have a conversation or potentially interrupting a speech (like they did in Iowa which = "no class"

there's a way to be respectful and enthusiastic.....paul supporters must realize that they have to energize the republican base unless they actually believe that there is going to be enough folks that are going to "register" republican to overcome the perennial GOP voters

Isn't it funny that the MOST CONSERVATIVE candidate has more of the "hippie" retreads show up for support?? its almost mind blowing and unbelievable. Let's hope that the "old guard" isn't deluded into thinking that somehow PAUL is just a "left wing conspiracy"....that would just be TRAGIC. The Conservatives NEED PAUL to actually win and stop the socialists.

Let me tell you something about alot of "republicans" ive encountered in Illinois. In states like South Carolina, Illinois republicans would be considered liberal democrats. Its a whole different grading scale. Just about every week when im doing door to door flyer handouts, I encounter at least a couple of so called republicans who say we cant get rid of the income tax, we need public schools, and we need some kind of government sponsored health care system.

I think Tucker Carlson and Pat Buchanan were right when they said we might "need to start a new party" and bring Ron Paul on board. The gap between republicanism and true conservatism is growing by the day. Its starting to look like democrats and republicans are just seperated by the war issue and they pretty much agree on every other socialist issue for the most part.

At least thats what I see in Illinois, one of the most socialist states in the whole country, beating out even California and New York in my opinion. They need to change their state flag to include the hammer and sickle pretty soon if they want it to mean anything.

 

[Dustancostine]

I'm telling you that he better be glad I wasn't there. He would have been moved off that sign.

 

[Akus]

I'm telling you that he better be glad I wasn't there. He would have been moved off that sign.

We don't need that kind of behaviour. If Ron Paul loses, the joke is on HIM first and foremost. He was acting like a child, we need to be level above and definitely do not want to instigate any physical violence.

 

[Sean]

the Tribune stated,

"Paul's libertarian stylings and campaign of strict interpretation of the Constitution has earned him an unorthodox band of sign-carrying supporters."

lets just hope that "unorthodox band" means has more than just a pulse instead of what I am afraid it means: interupting "assholes".

We want folks to see support and VOTE for PAUL not just be "activists".

I think what is going on is that Ron Paul supporters are interrupting the MSM's script. You see there shouldn't be more Ron Paul signs than there are Romney signs. That just looks bad on TV.

 

[ButchHowdy]

That guy stepping on the sign looked exactly like the Saturday Night Live parody of Chicagoeans!

I can hear him saying

"Da Bears"

 

[quickmike]

I'm telling you that he better be glad I wasn't there. He would have been moved off that sign.

I wish I was there too. I wouldnt have touched him because it would make RP supporters look bad, but I DEFINITELY would have gotten up about 2 inches nose to nose in his face and mocked him in my best hillbilly voice saying something like "yeah, im a mitt romney s'porter cuz he has gud hair and im a sheep who lykes his imige, hell, we need a republic'n who acts like a dem'crat............yuk yuk yuk" and just wait for him to take a shot at me. I shoulda been there with ya man. We could have done the old "ill get on my knees behind him and you push him back" thing.

 

[Dustancostine]

We don't need that kind of behaviour. If Ron Paul loses, the joke is on HIM first and foremost. He was acting like a child, we need to be level above and definitely do not want to instigate any physical violence.

He was in effect stealing private property. I'm not saying I would have fought him. But I would have reached down and lifted his hoof like a horse and removed the sign.

 

[constituent]

really though.. what kinda dope was that guy (sen.) on?

when you see somebody behaving in that sort of irrational manner, staring blankly into space... well, it's like that old propaganda film [replayed in and on Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, mentioned in several of his other books] says, "know your dope fiend."

really though, that kind of person is dangerous. just give them their small victory, get it on tape and move on.

have you seen the Bloomberg train ride clip yet? Bloomberg had the same look on his face toward the end that this guy had... almost like they feel like crying... maybe it's booze, I don't know... but these people are not in their right minds.

 

[jonahtrainer]

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That guys heart rate was probably 220 bpm's. We are starting to annoy the old guard who simply do not realize the so called frontrunners cannot be elected. I think the lady asked him if he was the strong arm of the party? LOL.

This was clearly a Trespass to Chattels because he is intentionally interfering with the sign owner's lawful use and possession of the Ron Paul sign.

In addition, it appeared as if the person who wanted their sign back may have felt a fear of an imminent harmful or offensive touching from the guy (he did look obstinate and was guarding the sign he had illegally taken) should he attempt to repossess the sign. Therefore, a cause of action for assault may be raised.

How did Grumpy get possession of the sign? Did he ever make a physical contact with the person or with the sign while being held by the person?

I know politics gets passionate but that is no excuse for violating the law and property rights of others. Grumpy's behavior is illegal and an infringement of the sign owner's legal rights. The great Justice Cardozo said, "The enforcement of our legal rights is never a legal wrong and may often be a moral duty." Plus, wouldn't that be a great story on Digg!

Just in case anyone wanted to call and kindly thank the man for being such a "swell" guy

Wish I were authorized to practice in Illinois as I would litigate this case pro-bono. The YouTube would look wonderful before a jury should it be admitted. He would get more than a 'kindly thank' you from me!