Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On The Record

[CaptUSA]

I support true Free Markets.

So, that's more than a buzzword. RFK uses that as a buzzword, but then says that government needs to create a free market in energy by building the platform for it to exist (I'm not going thru the 2+ hours again to find the references, but he was talking about how the government stood up the internet and some other technology... He was pretty clear)

But the "platform" that RFK is talking about is a whole new electric grid that allows for and reacts to 2-way power flow. It is possible. But it's CRAZY expensive. And the margins that an individual distributed generator could make would be so low that they'd never be able to pay off the investment. In many states, there are net-metering provisions, but there are HUGE interconnection costs that are not borne by the generator. They are paid for by everybody else. This is why Alex (who has done his research) talks about the places where this has been tried ends up with higher energy costs; not lower.

You really do get economies of scale in generation. And distributed generation, while great for personal use, adds enormous costs when interconnected to the grid. RFK doesn't want those generators to bear that cost. So a true free market??? Nope.


Sorry, RFK is too far out over his skis on energy issues. He doesn't know what he's talking about and that's why he's all flustered. Listen, I know you want to like the guy, but you don't have to support everything he says. Epstein is the truer market voice in that conversation, by far.

Fossil fuels are the captured solar energy of millennia of organisms that we can release by burning. That will always be a more market efficient means of energy than trying to capture the wind or sun in real time. Nuclear energy, of course, being the MOST efficient.

 

[PAF]

I support true Free Markets.

So, that's more than a buzzword. RFK uses that as a buzzword

It's a buzzword that Democrats are not too familiar with. Or most republicans for that matter.

He doesn't know what he's talking about and that's why he's all flustered.

RFK is an intelligent man. As to why he's flustered... even when I don't like given candidates, it is rude to interrupt, misquote and take out of context.

Listen, I know you want to like the guy, but you don't have to support everything he says.

Sure, I like the guy. I don't know every stance on every issue. But when it comes to talking about Free Markets, Captive Agencies, Subsidies, Price-Anderson Act, and the difference between Climate Change and Climate Engineering, the latter of which Gates, WEF, governments are participating/investing in, RFK is the vehicle of which Democrats can at least listen and learn. Trump, DeSantis, any running R for that matter, there is no way that Democrats will give those moronic bozos the time of day - not that I would ever suggest it.

Epstein is the truer market voice in that conversation, by far.

Truer market voice LOL? Supporting subsidies, more laws and legislation, while belittling innovation - in my mind he is another cog in the wheel and part of the problem.

Fossil fuels are the captured solar energy of millennia of organisms that we can release by burning. That will always be a more market efficient means of energy than trying to capture the wind or sun in real time. Nuclear energy, of course, being the MOST efficient.

My response to that is let the free market determine that. Not you, not Epstein, not me or RFK. As it stands and exists today, there is no way to know. What I do know is, I am planning off-the-grid in the near future, and wind/solar is what I am looking at.


No worries, [MENTION=30558]CaptUSA[/MENTION] , I don't vote anyway. My goal is to strike up more conversations and help reach as many people as I can to the foundations of liberty. RFK is helping me do just that.

 

[Occam's Banana]

RFK Jr. endorses criminalization of medical misinformation and "lying", announces intention to prosecute medical journals under RICO laws.

THREAD:

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'RFK Jr. Says He Will Prosecute “Lying” Medical Journals "Killing Americans"'

Aug 17, 2023

RFK Jr. Says He Will Prosecute “Lying” Medical Journals "Killing Americans"

RFK Jr. Says He Will Prosecute “Lying” Medical Journals That Lancet Editor Called “Information-Laundering Operations,” Says They Are “Killing Americans”

RFK Jr. has launched a frontal assault on the medical journals which were looked to for authoritative information during COVID, of which the editor of The Lancet, the premier medical journal in the world, shockingly said in 2004:

”medical journals have become an important but underrecognized obstacle to scientific truth-telling. Journals...

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[Occam's Banana]

There are many things we can do to address this problem. Soon I will be announcing a program to make homes affordable again. The centerpiece is an approach that will reduce interest rates to 3% for millions of new mortgages. It’s a version of the approach first proposed by my uncle, President John F. Kennedy, 60 years ago. We need it now. #Kennedy24

 

[Occam's Banana]

"one out of ten" ain't ... good ...

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702705618497474714
to: https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702706052633186418

 

[Occam's Banana]

"one out of ten" ain't ... good ...

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702705618497474714
to: https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702706052633186418

 

[Occam's Banana]

"one out of ten" ain't ... good ...

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702705618497474714
to: https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702706052633186418

 

[PAF]

"one out of ten" ain't ... good ...

But, but, you think he'll win. Right???

 

[Occam's Banana]

But, but, you think he'll win. Right???

No. Why would I?

Fortunately, he won't.

Unfortunately, someone else will.

 

[Occam's Banana]

 

[Occam's Banana]

h/t [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION]: RFK Jr. on how a federal ID could fix immigration and election fraud

https://twitter.com/i/status/1703202604308644132

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr on How a Federal ID Could Fix the Border Crisis & Confidence in Our Elections

“If you say you can’t get a job without a Federal ID, the border is going to shut down overnight…It will also do something else…It will make it so that we can tell people you need an ID to vote…There won’t be any more worry about whether or not there’s double voting going on.”

 

[Firestarter]

When I first posted this, I couldn’t understand how Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running for Democrat president, could help Donald Trump.
Matthew Sheffield:

No surprise: More than half of the main RFK political action committee’s revenue came from a Trump mega donor. Kennedy is a Republican stooge.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/31/rfk-jr-super-pac-gop-donor-00109101


But now I see a possible strategy in RFK Jr. “promoting” the most controversial Democrat policies. I still don’t see how this will benefit Trump specifically, but this could make some voters switch from Democrat to Republican.
It looks like he has done this twice already...
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h/t @Anti Federalist: RFK Jr. on how a federal ID could fix immigration and election fraud

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https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702705618497474714
to: https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702706052633186418

 

[acptulsa]

https://twitter.com/EcommunistForum/status/1703482492064567354

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1703568361626685647

 

[Occam's Banana]

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[Brian4Liberty]

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At the time I compiled RFK, I was attempting to reel some of the leftist/democrats to the ideas of Free Markets, and to discuss Ukraine, Captive Agencies, Lobbyists, etc. It was an opening for me, since they would never give the likes of Ron Paul the time of day. But as you can see at the bottom of his record sheet, I did in fact include his Domestic Platform, one that I am not fond of:
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The question is will RFK Jr be able to convince Democrats of the idea of free, competitive markets, or will it simply be a confirmation of the evils of capitalism, as demonstrated by the crony corporatism of government and big pharma?

Other than Tulsi Gabbard, is RFK Jr the best option for Democrats since RFK himself, or perhaps since John Edwards, who was removed from contention via scandal? Democrats have a habit of removing those who do not tow the company line.

 

[PAF]

The question is will RFK Jr be able to convince Democrats of the idea of free, competitive markets, or will it simply be a confirmation of the evils of capitalism, as demonstrated by the crony corporatism of government and big pharma?

Using Risk/Reward, I use some of RFK's talking points, since (D)emocrats are more apt to listen to another (D)emocrat. I then expand the conversation to see where it might eventually go.

Other than Tulsi Gabbard, is RFK Jr the best option for Democrats since RFK himself, or perhaps since John Edwards, who was removed from contention via scandal? Democrats have a habit of removing those who do not tow the company line.

Using Risk/Reward, I use some of Tulsi's talking points, since (D)emocrats are more apt to listen to another [now ex] (D)emocrat. I then expand the conversation to see where it might eventually go.


If you have other suggestions and/or 100% PROVEN and APPROVED strategies, kindly drop them into the Suggestion Box for possible consideration.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Using Risk/Reward, I use some of RFK's talking points, since (D)emocrats are more apt to listen to another (D)emocrat. I then expand the conversation to see where it might eventually go.

Using Risk/Reward, I use some of Tulsi's talking points, since (D)emocrats are more apt to listen to another [now ex] (D)emocrat. I then expand the conversation to see where it might eventually go.

If you have other suggestions and/or 100% PROVEN and APPROVED strategies, kindly drop them into the Suggestion Box for possible consideration.

I would imagine that a strategy of a) discouraging voting, and b) introducing Democrats to certain ideas via RFK Jr would be most effective (and provide more bang for the buck) in venues where there tend to be a lot of Democrats.

 

[Firestarter]

In my opinion the only thing we really have “on the record” of RFK Jr. is his promotion of the green agenda that is both a massive financial fraud and a ploy to finalise the technocratic surveillance state.
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VantagePoint Venture Partners (where Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was a partner) was the seed funder for BrightSource Energy, whose main project was the $2.2 billion costing Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System in the Mojave Desert (in California). Because of its high costs it couldn’t be cost efficient (7 times as expensive as gas) and could only have been built using government subsidies.

The US government provided a $1.6 billon loan guarantee to get the Ivanpah plant built on public land.
In November 2014, Ivanpah's investors applied for a $539 million federal grant to pay off the federal loan (strangely no more information on this…).

In October 2010, governator Schwarzenegger (who was married to a Kennedy) approved the Ivanpah project.
See Interior Secretary Ken Salazar next to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger at the Mojave Desert holding a plague commemorating the Ivanpah fraud, 17 October 2010.

The Ivanpah project was mainly financed by NRG Energy with $300 million and Google that contributed $168 million.
Bechtel was partners in this scheme by leading the construction of 3 adjacent towers.

Green-energy-is-big-business

 

[Occam's Banana]

How it started:

https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr
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How it's going:

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[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/1713051167066915309