RNC to NV GOP: Don’t let Ron Paul delegates take over nat'l convention slots or don’t come

[kathy88]

If they removed Nevada from the calculations, wouldn't <1144 become smaller?

Yes, you would have to make a new avatar, and that's actually the first think I thought of when I read this. Crap, if they throw Nevada out parocks needs a new avatar.

 

[LostNFoundNTx]

But they're saying the submitted rules apply to allocation as well as binding. So it would be better to lose the whole state than have Mitt increase his delegate lead.

That's true. For any state where Romney has >50% of the delegates bound to him, it would be better for a first round vote to lose all delegates from that state than to send loyal Romney delegates in those slots.

 

[rockerrockstar]

This makes me mad because it says your vote does not matter. The GOP will do what ever they want to get their favorite elected. It seems wrong. Ron Paul is running as a republican and they act like he is not a republican and they don't want him in there. Ron should sue them for all the money he spent on his campaign if they keep on screwing him like this.

 

[rb3b3]

this is just scare tactics!!! they are just making empty threats to our supporters.... lets just go about our business as usual, and kick ass at the state convention in nevada!!

 

[Elwar]

Umm, what rule allows the RNC to unseat a state?

 

[georgiaboy]

links in op not working for me - we overloading their servers?
edit - working now.

 

[sailingaway]

That's true. For any state where Romney has >50% of the delegates bound to him, it would be better for a first round vote to lose all delegates from that state than to send loyal Romney delegates in those slots.

But you are forgetting Santorum. He has the least in that state and to catch/pass HIM Ron needs delegates.. I see NO WHERE where a candidates delegates have to love them in their heart, in the rules. Does anyone else? Because that is contrary to every other delegate selection in history as far as I am aware. That is simply the RNC acting in its internal opinion letters as an arm of the Romney campaign imho, and if they have not satisfied Rule 11 to consider Romney the 'presumed nominee' as I suspect they have not, THAT is a huge point. I'm thinking that confab where the parties of the various states had to sign undying loyalty pledges to Romney or whatever it was, and IOWA DID NOT likely played into that somewhere.

 

[sailingaway]

Umm, what rule allows the RNC to unseat a state?

It would be the credentials committee at the RNC but if there is any rule saying people in their heart must support a particular candidate it has never been enforced before so selective enforcement doesn't begin to touch it. The problem is I'm assuming (and don't know) that they will dominate the credentials committee. So they are saying 'we operate the light switch and will do it this way.'

Remember when NV GOP leadership in 2008 fled the state convention because they didn't have the votes to adjourn, and we held our own meeting later? We now know we have to do it the same day and keep going, elect a new chair etc. However, we noticed and held a meeting which was certainly more by the rules than what they did which was have an internal conference call to 'appoint' delegates. The credentials committee just called them inept but mostly kept their delegates and just added a couple that had been elected for Paul before the lights were turned out. Mind you, that was MORE egregious because Ron had BEAT McCain in Nevada. This time they can say Romney won in the straw poll, yet that didn't govern what they did in North Dakota. Here they have the binding argument. But Ron needs plurality in 5 states. Only the campaign really knows where we stand on that.

 

[Athan]

Sounds like criminal mischief on behalf of the RNC.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

Paul Supporters to RNC:

Disenfranchise us and it's Forward! with 4 more years.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

Everyone has missed the bigger point of this letter....

They already have Counsel picking through the rules and preparing for us. The more states that we get the delegates from the more they are going to try and find way to push back. Every delegate going to Tampa better be ready for a fight. And before ANYONE attempts a Rule 38, or similar we better have Lawyers, and Parliamentarians at the ready.

In the meantime..... looks like this weekend is going to be the longest ever on RPF.

 

[hkbrandt]

It is my understanding that Nevada became 'bound' only during the 2008 season in a small room with few people. This was done since even at that time they feared the Ron Paul contingent. This current letter does nothing but fuel the fire. Keep it up RNC. Perhaps there will be a vote this weekend to overturn the 'bound' delegate process here. The RNC does nothing but push forward their own demise with reckless abandon.

We had a robocall last night stating that 'we' Nevadans cannot let the Ron Paul people take over this weekend. They are out of their minds with fear. The attempt here by the RNC is to now threaten the state. This should only motivate more Ron Paul delegates to make it to Sparks this weekend. Let their fears and worse come true. NOBP!!!!!!!!!

 

[sailingaway]

Sorry to derail this thread but how much would one of these cost:

?

very little, just rental for a sky light and the cost of an acrylic filter..

 

[sailingaway]

This article should be distributed far and wide. Is this the RNC openly working on behalf of Mitt Romney? Shouldn't they be neutral? If Ron Paul wasn't doing something effectively, why would the RNC care? If it was over, and Romney had won, why would the RNC care? Clearly, the RNC cares.

I downloaded the letter itself. I'm wondering what 'prior letter of April 30' regarding unbinding delegates said? Because it looks very much as if there was prior internal coordination strategy and they discussed it then someone said 'can you put that last part into a letter I can release?'

 

[sailingaway]

It is my understanding that Nevada became 'bound' only during the 2008 season in a small room with few people. This was done since even at that time they feared the Ron Paul contingent. This current letter does nothing but fuel the fire. Keep it up RNC. Perhaps there will be a vote this weekend to overturn the 'bound' delegate process here. The RNC does nothing but push forward their own demise with reckless abandon.

We had a robocall last night stating that 'we' Nevadans cannot let the Ron Paul people take over this weekend. They are out of their minds with fear. The attempt here by the RNC is to now threaten the state. This should only motivate more Ron Paul delegates to make it to Sparks this weekend. Let their fears and worse come true. NOBP!!!!!!!!!

It is the campaign's call. We really need discipline -- but to RON's interests.

 

[Gray Fullbuster]

WEAD AND SWANN

Please and ty.

 

[hkbrandt]

It is the RNC that needs discipline. We are organized. We are polite..well, most of the time. We are prepared. We will not however kowtow to threats. People here are still reeling from the shenanigans in 2008. We need to be strong and hold our ground.

No matter how proper we are though I am sure it will all be reported with words like extreme, takeover, mischief, wild, etc.

 

[Cleaner44]

We should publicise to the RNC that actions like this are a message NOT lto vote Romney in the general! Make it clear that attempts to repress us will be used to further a No One But Paul vote in the general.

 

[Carehn]

Any odds on us winning been posted yet?

 

[thoughtomator]

Someone preserve the letter for the RICO/election fraud suit which this lawyer will be criminally charged with abetting.