RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah

[ClaytonB]

Her grief is her own, nobody should be trying to judge that.

That said, her change in persona is a bit odd. She spoke at great length on Charlie's podcast and in her own speeches about the importance of feminine virtue, etc. so it's strange that she's suddenly 180'd and is now a hyper-modern power-woman. I almost wonder if they took out the real Erika and replaced her with a body-double -- after all, Erika genuinely heading TPUSA would probably play out even worse for the Establishment than Charlie, due to the huge sympathetic boost, and also her immunity to a large swathe of political attacks by virtue of being female. The mannerisms of this person do not align with the mannerisms of Erika that can be seen in Charlie Kirk podcasts. That has nothing to do with grief or lack thereof (not our place to judge), it's an objective difference.

 

[acptulsa]

I almost wonder if they took out the real Erika and replaced her with a body-double -- after all, Erika genuinely heading TPUSA would probably play out even worse for the Establishment than Charlie, due to the huge sympathetic boost, and also her immunity to a large swathe of political attacks by virtue of being female. The mannerisms of this person do not align with the mannerisms of Erika that can be seen in Charlie Kirk podcasts. That has nothing to do with grief or lack thereof (not our place to judge), it's an objective difference.

It's also just possible that she's a consummate actress who convincingly played one role before, and is now playing a different role.

Jean Stapleton comes to mind. She was in our living rooms every week, and played the dingbat so convincingly that fans who met her on the street were floored at the intelligent conversation coming out of Edith Bunker's face. Don't flatter yourself that you're completely immune. I don't think any of us are.

 

[ClaytonB]

It's also just possible that she's a consummate actress who convincingly played one role before, and is now playing a different role.

Jean Stapleton comes to mind. She was in our living rooms every week, and played the dingbat so convincingly that fans who met her on the street were floored at the intelligent conversation coming out of Edith Bunker's face.

I agree that is a possibility. But I think there are more layers than that (and I have reasons for thinking that which I'm not really at liberty to share, it's not just a hunch.)

Don't flatter yourself that you're completely immune. I don't think any of us are.

Immunity has nothing to do with it. I keep explaining this same point to you over and over. Let me try one more time. Imagine a "super-intelligent AI". That's all the rage nowadays. "ASI is coming!" People are genuinely terrified of ASI, because of the metaphor of humans being to this ASI as ants are to humans. The metaphor is misdirected, but it's a good metaphor -- we are to mighty spirit beings as human intelligence is to ants. Mighty spirit beings are not ASI, they're mighty spirit beings (in Scripture, called things like "great and mighty angel", etc.) If you think that you can be a hard-bitten enough skeptic to escape such spirit beings without the supernatural protection of Jesus in the Holy Spirit, you are already deluded. That belief itself is of the pride of Lucifer, and they've already got you dancing on your back-feet for the doggie-treat, just like all the other deluded doggies. The ONLY way out, is through Jesus (John 14:6), meaning, by miraculous deliverance from the coming Great Deception (Matt. 24:24). There is no other way. There is no way to think yourself out of this. There is nothing you, a mere ant, can add to your deliverance from the coming cataclysm. The only immunity is the Gospel itself. All others will be carried off into the Antichrist's deception. Absolutely no one will escape.

 

[acptulsa]

If you think that you can be a hard-bitten enough skeptic to escape such spirit beings without the supernatural protection of Jesus in the Holy Spirit, you are already deluded.

Just stop.

Listening to Jesus is a process. You have to let the deception in and chew on it before you can be sure Jesus in your heart is telling you to spit it out.

It all sounds so black-and-white simple until the Time of Tribulations arrives, and we find out how it really feels. Stop jumping on me because I describe the process.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[acptulsa]

 

[jmdrake]

That is a little sus.

 

[acptulsa]

Does anyone know anything about this alleged letter? Does it even exist? I can't find anything on line. On the one hand, you can't trust the media to report something like this. On the other, these people who made this vid say the family lives in Salt Lake City, which is not correct...

Who to trust, who to trust?

 

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[acptulsa]

 

[acptulsa]

That camera behind the man which was hastily removed looks more and more suspect to me all the time. The angle seems approximately right; anything more than approximately doesn't count because bullets are known to deflect. None of this can be proven with anything I've seen. There was footage taken with that thing in view when he was shot. I see more than one person filming in the right position to catch that view. But we aren't being shown that footage, or at least I haven't found any of it.

This is the first time I've heard somebody else say it. If we assume his spinal cord was severed and the neck wound was an exit wound (and it looks like both are true), only that explains the angle. And his dark hair would make the entry would much harder to detect.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I didn't know much about Charlie Kirk before his assassination, and I didn't have any idea who Erika Kirk was.

But I did see video of her in the (leather?) pants. It seemed to be inappropriate. From what little I have seen of her, she comes off as a phony.

I did read that she used to be in beauty pagents, and probably likes the spotlight. Is she going for the rockstar look here, or is this supposed to be a casual look? Jeans would have been more appropriate if it was intended to be casual.

 

[Occam's Banana]

THREAD:

'Kash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in explosive feud with Trump's counterterror chief'

Nov 3, 2025

Kash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in explosive feud with Trump's counterterror chief​

"FBI Director Kash Patel crushed efforts by Tulsi Gabbard's closest advisor to see if a foreign power was involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination.

The head of the National Counterterrorism Center, Joe Kent, analyzed FBI files to determine whether Kirk's alleged killer received assistance from a foreign power.

Kent's investigation alarmed Patel, who believed the counterterror chief was overstepping by interfering with an ongoing FBI...

• Brian4Liberty
• Replies: 9
• Forum: U.S. Political News

 

[acptulsa]

The audit of TPUSA Kirk ordered not happening, donations from directions other than Israel drying up.

 

[acptulsa]

Jimmy Dore

 

[acptulsa]

 

[jmdrake]

THREAD:

'Kash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in explosive feud with Trump's counterterror chief'

Nov 3, 2025

Kash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in explosive feud with Trump's counterterror chief​

"FBI Director Kash Patel crushed efforts by Tulsi Gabbard's closest advisor to see if a foreign power was involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination.

The head of the National Counterterrorism Center, Joe Kent, analyzed FBI files to determine whether Kirk's alleged killer received assistance from a foreign power.

Kent's investigation alarmed Patel, who believed the counterterror chief was overstepping by interfering with an ongoing FBI...

• Brian4Liberty
• Replies: 9
• Forum: U.S. Political News

Will Kash Patel resign to restore honor to the FBI or will Tulsi Gabbard resign to restore honor to herself?

 

[acptulsa]

 

[otherone]

"12 Israeli-linked cell phones were detected at Utah Valley University".
IDK, I assume that would be the case at every university.

 

[acptulsa]

"12 Israeli-linked cell phones were detected at Utah Valley University".
IDK, I assume that would be the case at every university.

Isn't it amazing that Americans actually give to the Association of Christians and Jews? I mean, huge blocks of airtime are bought so some Jewish -American Princess can carry on about Holocaust survivors starving in a socialist country that can afford a crooked prime minister, thousands of missiles that fly every day externally and internally, rebuilding their glitziest city after deliberately pissing off their most powerful neighbor, trying to buy every American "influencer" with five digit audiences at four digits a post, babysitters for 532 members of Congress, and the list goes on.

You're telling me that they can't afford to feed a few remaining ninety year olds?

Maybe we need to exercise a little tough love? Yo, Israel, you lost your credit card privileges until you get your priorities straight, young country.