RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah

ClaytonB said:
They don't just want you to be quiet. They want you dead.
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Precisely!!!

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This demon is absolutely melting down over Candace daring to doubt the integrity of our government or suggesting that Shitsrael may have killed someone.


 
tebowlives said:
Sometimes I forget this. 50 seconds in is the reminder

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One more: The Guardian article was updated to remove quotes after the "verified" source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said, after publication, that they could not remember details of their relationship.
 
ClaytonB said:
Time will tell, but I think you're objectively incorrect about that. I have IRL friends across the spectrum, mostly Normies, and they're sitting up and taking notice of this event. This isn't just blurring into the noise-margin for them. I think this is hitting home much more than Butler did precisely because Charlie Kirk was actually a pretty non-controversial person. The Left/MSM do not understand just how normal Charlie Kirk was... the vast majority of religious conservatives in America are within a stone's throw of Charlie Kirk's views. The message of this event to them is unmistakable.



It's the same pattern as always. Ultimately, this is the Beast (Right) versus the Prostitute (Left) in Revelation. "The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire." (Rev. 17:16) Neither side is actually good, and neither side can help themselves, they will each act out their evil natures until the final showdown...
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I feel that I keep up on politics fairly well. When I first heard about the assassination, I vaguely recognized the name, but didn't know what he did. I don't personally know anyone who knew who he was. I think maybe it's an age thing. He was targeting young college students not old men like me.

Which actually leads to another point. Israel might have killed him because they couldn't risk losing a generation of future wall kissers. They already lost the young lefties with the Gaza genocide. If they lose the young far right, they would be in real trouble in the future.
 
69360 said:
I feel that I keep up on politics fairly well. When I first heard about the assassination, I vaguely recognized the name, but didn't know what he did. I don't personally know anyone who knew who he was. I think maybe it's an age thing. He was targeting young college students not old men like me.

Which actually leads to another point. Israel might have killed him because they couldn't risk losing a generation of future wall kissers. They already lost the young lefties with the Gaza genocide. If they lose the young far right, they would be in real trouble in the future.
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Yeah, if Benjamin Mileikowsky (adopted name "Netany-hu" via his father) had kept quiet, I would not have brought up the cui bono of Israel. It seems he wants people to make that connection (perhaps as a power move) so... OK. Unfortunately for the false-zionists, American culture is opposite of UK/EU/Israeli culture in respect to the interplay of violence and the political discussion. Violence is not as effective in the US as an intimidation tactic. It's not useless, but it's just not as effective as it is in the Old World. Violence here pisses people off, and whatever the "THAT" is that they're not supposed to be saying, it makes them want to say "THAT" times 10. Let's Go Brandon is an example not directly involving violence -- but it vividly demonstrates the American reflex to gagging and censorship. Total opposite of UK/EU/Israeli culture where violence and censorship typically cause widespread cowering and have a completely reliable, mass chilling effect.
 
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Just another update on this story:

Turns out that old man the cops pinched initially in the crowd, George Zinn, is some kind of discount, Temu brand, Vermin Supreme.

He's well known in the area for pulling stunts like that.

nypost.com

George Zinn, Utah man detained in viral footage after Charlie Kirk assassination, is well-known political ‘gadfly’

The elderly man detained after apparently falsely admitting to shooting Charlie Kirk is a known political agitator with a string of bizarre arrests dating back to the 1980s, according to reports. G…
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Just spoke with top FBI official who made it very clear that they have NOT ruled out co-conspirators in Charlie Kirk’s assassination:

“That assumption is premature. This investigation is just beginning. An enormous amount of evidence has been seized both digital and physical.”

FBI sources assure me the public will “know everything” about the dark internet history, chats and affiliations of Kirk’s left-wing political assassin.

The source then alluded to some online groups attempting to delete or destroy evidence.

“We have everything. We are focused on the radicalization element. The truth will not be hidden, or buried or classified. The public will know.”

 
Occam's Banana said:
https://x.com/michaeljknowles/status/1966627316551016927

In the wake of Charlie's assassination, many people are demanding that we redouble our devotion to the "free marketplace of ideas." The call seems at first glance courageous and noble. In reality, it is reckless and impractical. We had an open marketplace of ideas; the Left shot it up.

Not only have extreme leftists committed violence in the marketplace of ideas; more scandalous still, mainstream left-wing voices have cheered and made light of the violence. There can be no open marketplace—of ideas or anything else—under such conditions.

Marketplaces require rules, confidence, and common media of exchange. They require, in other words, order. Liberty requires order. One cannot be both free and undisciplined, for instance, or free and ignorant. We know this philosophically, and we also know it intuitively. It's why we don't let toddlers vote.

What we require now is the reassertion of order. We must insist upon the acceptance of basic truths and moral goods, not as the asymptotic goal of endless debate but as the axiomatic foundation without which debate cannot occur. We must foreclose certain antisocial behaviors and suicidal ideologies. We must, to borrow a phrase from Chesterton, stop "the thought that stops thought."

In practical terms, this means we must stigmatize certain evil ideas and behaviors, and we must ostracize people who insist upon them. More practically, this means that people who persist in such disorder should lose their social standing. In certain cases, they should lose their jobs. There must be consequences.

With any political reform, it is wise to err on the side of caution. The offenses that merit such ostracism should be particularly egregious. A good place to begin would be with those who celebrate the murder of an innocent man.

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Occam's Banana said:
Things like ostracism and reputational damage as tools of social regulation are far more desirable than state action/force.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say they are necessary for the maintenance of any healthy social order.
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Occam's Banana said:
Just spoke with top FBI official who made it very clear that they have NOT ruled out co-conspirators in Charlie Kirk’s assassination:

“That assumption is premature. This investigation is just beginning. An enormous amount of evidence has been seized both digital and physical.”
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When I heard that there was a written note in his bedroom about a rifle drop point and such, it was pretty obvious to me there was some co-conspiring going on.
 
Anti Federalist said:
Just another update on this story:

Turns out that old man the cops pinched initially in the crowd, George Zinn, is some kind of discount, Temu brand, Vermin Supreme.

He's well known in the area for pulling stunts like that.

nypost.com

George Zinn, Utah man detained in viral footage after Charlie Kirk assassination, is well-known political ‘gadfly’

The elderly man detained after apparently falsely admitting to shooting Charlie Kirk is a known political agitator with a string of bizarre arrests dating back to the 1980s, according to reports. G…
nypost.com nypost.com
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And he just happened to be in exactly the right place at exactly the right time.

What a coinky-dink!!!
 
Occam's Banana said:
Occam's Banana

Post in thread 'The curious grammar of police shootings'

jmdrake said:
In legal writing we were taught to never use passive voice unless you are trying to deflect from the bad action of your own client.
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"curious grammar" - it's not just for police shootings anymore:


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My technical writing teacher at university was an absolute battle-ax versus the passive-voice. She would have graded me F--- for writing a headline like that! 🤣
 
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