RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah

[TheTexan]

 

[acptulsa]

 

[Occam's Banana]

 

[ClaytonB]

I'm not saying that leftists aren't capable of being this monstrous.

The Left is to blame for this, just as with the shooting of Trump, no matter what. Weren't you the one who shared the post of the girl saying, "When you've been manifesting for 'it' to happen but it ends up happening to Charlie Kirk." While everyone has freedom of speech and thought, civilly, you don't have moral carte blanche in thought and word (let alone deed) -- every religion in the world teaches this, so it's not some kind of bizarre or unusual thing. So, if your movement is explicitly centered around fostering violent and hateful language and thoughts -- meaning, actual knife-stab violence, not imaginary "wrong pronouns" violence -- you are morally guilty for the fruits your movement produces, meaning, you are to blame for the loony radicals who start popping off, inspired by your violent thoughts and words.

This is one of the reasons why the Left is so intent on confabulating the very definition of the word "violence" itself. Everything in the world can potentially be called "violence" but an Antifa stabbing-behind-umbrella-shields is just "street justice" or "direkt action". So, while I agree that it may not be the case that this was a lone loony Leftist acting alone, I see no moral difference between that scenario, and whatever actually transpired...

 

[Occam's Banana]

Oh, look at the time! It's a quarter past never-miss-a-chance-to-posture-and-grab-power o'clock:

https://x.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1966114479042593251

I’m going to use Congressional authority and every influence with big tech platforms to mandate immediate ban for life of every post or commenter that belittled the assassination of Charlie Kirk. If they ran their mouth with their smartass hatred celebrating the heinous murder of that beautiful young man who dedicated his whole life to delivering respectful conservative truth into the hearts of liberal enclave universities, armed only with a Bible and a microphone and a Constitution… those profiles must come down.

So, I’m going to lean forward in this fight, demanding that big tech have zero tolerance for violent political hate content, the user to be banned from ALL PLATFORMS FOREVER. I’m also going after their business licenses and permitting, their businesses will be blacklisted aggressively, they should be kicked from every school, and their drivers licenses should be revoked. I’m basically going to cancel with extreme prejudice these evil, sick animals who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

I’m starting that today.

That is all.

 

[ClaytonB]

Pfft.

No worries there.

Nothing will happen.

Nothing ever happens, other than circling shit bowls of rage bait and SWToDs and distracting conspiracies.

In a month or so this will be forgotten, some new outrage will take its place, and the Marxists will keep on chalking up small victories.

They have been slowly sliding their hand up our collective kilt for over a century now. They're just about to choke up. They are dangling over the fires of hell by the thinnest of threads. When they go to make their final seize, at that very moment, they will be hit with the Thunderbolt and that will be the last that any of us will ever see or hear of them, Isaiah 41:11,12.

'Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."' (John 18:36)

Not fighting (yet) is not weakness. We are waiting for the cavalry, Matthew 13:40-43.

 

[Occam's Banana]

 

[acptulsa]

So, while I agree that it may not be the case that this was a lone loony Leftist acting alone, I see no moral difference between that scenario, and whatever actually transpired...

Well I see a difference between a scapegoat and a shooter. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying this is incorrect, either.

But they've been mad at Kirk for years. He only just turned on Israel. And the people online virtually dancing on his grave, while evil lost souls, aren't as dangerous as the organization that didn't just wish him dead but made him dead.

I just watched an air force retiree trying to blame Islam for this. I have no use for Islam, either, but I'm not buying into they shot Charlie Kirk. I want the real shooter and the people behind him to get the blame. All of it.

 

[ClaytonB]

https://x.com/TheLouPerez/status/1966115474695237705

To those critics of Charlie Kirk sharing this headline, it's not a gotcha.

Yes, believing in the right to bear arms means there will be unfortunate gun deaths.

Just like believing in free speech means there will be unfortunate deaths, perpetrated by monsters who believe it's OK to murder you if you express certain ideas.

Let's not forget the spiritual aspect of this debate -- Charlie Kirk was a Christian and, to my knowledge, he was sincere (walked the walk, wasn't a hypocrite). Dying for our beliefs is part and parcel of what we sign up for when getting dunked ... that's what Baptism is really all about. Baptism is ritualized death. Everyone who is baptized is already dead, meaning, we have already committed ourselves to fight for the faith unto death, whether that be by lions, by burning at the stake, or by psychotic snipers. So, "If you believe this consistently, you might die because of it" is a giant shoulder-shrug for every true Christian -- yeah, duh, that's what this whole thing is about, you didn't know that? To believe means to to actually believe, meaning, to sign off one's beliefs with one's life. Charlie Kirk is partly a religious martyr because he was shot in part precisely because he was a believer in Jesus. This has been the penalty that Satan's world-order has consistently applied everywhere, throughout all of church history, wherever they have been able to get away with applying it. American tolerance of the Gospel in the public square is recent, rare and quickly coming to an end.

This will be biblical...

 

[Occam's Banana]

Post in thread 'RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah'

Sep 10, 2025

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[ClaytonB]

Well I see a difference between a scapegoat and a shooter. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying this is incorrect, either.

Islam has nothing to do with domestic US politics except insofar as we have antagonized them into inserting themselves into our domestic politics via our abominable foreign policy.

Even if this was a 100% Israeli PSYOP, the Left is to blame because they have created the tinder-box into which such events can be injected. They have created the opening for this, even if they did not themselves literally do it or orchestrate it.

I want the real shooter and the people behind him to get the blame. All of it.

Yes, of course. The probability of that happening in Clown World is indistinguishable from 0%.

 

[vita3]

unpopular opine but trump has foamed too many mouths up

Our side used to winning so much this this tragedy true shocker

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://x.com/NSKinsella/status/1966193269974397302

Charlie Kirk's approach was the "Prove Me Wrong" challenge--i.e., invite peaceful, rational, respectful discourse. What's the response of the left: kill him. Shut him up. This is a version of they way they've reacted for years now: call someone you disagree with a nazi, bigot, try to deplatform them, deny them a voice. When you have no capacity for reason or no rational arguments, you can either shut up, change your mind, or try to make your opponent exposing your irrational nonsense shut up.

 

[acptulsa]

Yes, of course. The probability of that happening in Clown World is indistinguishable from 0%.

You speak like someone who says the CIA got zero blame for the JFK assassination. I see people who know that the CIA did that all around me.

That counts

 

[Occam's Banana]

It's almost as if a lot of people on the left and the right have no compunctions about using (even murderous) force and power to impose their arbitrary wills and gratify their ad hoc desires, rather than to defend human liberty.

 

[acptulsa]

Has anyone seen Nuttyyahoo's posturing today? He doesn't deny the things Kirk was saying over the past month. He doesn't address them. He's acting like the past month never happened.





"He told me just this past May..." What did he say in August?

 

[acptulsa]

Dude's worried Teh Right might give as good as it just got.

Well, the Right might. And...?

 

[ClaytonB]

It's almost as if a lot of people on the left and the right have no compunctions about using (even murderous) force and power to impose their wills and gratify their desires, rather than to defend human liberty.

Must be a twitterverse-only thing, I never heard a word about Greta's boat. Last thing I saw was Greta trying to defend her sticking her nose into the Gaza business when it has nothing to do with the climate, for which she could give no intelligible explanation at all. She's a non-entity.

 

[acptulsa]

Rifle barrel in the right pants leg?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Here's the weapon.

Any half-good shooter could make a 175 yard head shot with that.