Riots?

[osan]

He could cut a similar deal with the Democrats, especially if the alternative would interfere with his ability to govern.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[tod evans]

I used to live in Portland. All I can say is that it is a very different town now than it was in 2002.

There used to be a demonstration/protest held every Wed. or Thur. by the court house, ca. Salmon St, 3rd and 4th avenues. Mounted police were always there and fast to arrest anyone getting too far out of line. People rarely got too stupid - typical hippie shit, but always peaceful as far as I can recall.

Now this.

I cannot say for sure, but it appears that a day of reckoning is nigh. Many of us have felt/suspected this for years. The election of Trump has reinforced and advanced that suspicion greatly for me, not because he stands to be so great a president, but because it shows the extent to which greater proportion of the people of this land are fed up.

The days between today and 1/20/2017 stand to be the most dangerous this nation has seen since the early 19th century at the very least. It now appears as if George Soros is playing the grand provocateur with his apparent funding of events such as those occurring in Portland. This stands to lead to nothing good.

The only proper solution to unabated rioting would be for the armed and good people of this land to take care of the business at hand with police staying mostly out of it. I believe I am safe in saying that this is a most unlikely prospect for the same or similar reasons that have lead Americans into the frying pan in the first place. Our current circumstance feels like a giant set up such that we the people stand to lose no matter how things pan out.

If this nonsense continues, it will demand a response and that is where a greater danger lies, IMO.

If police respond, it may set a mental precedent of acceptance for this remedy regardless of who is acting or for what reasons. Has it not been the case with all the instances of horrific police abuse of the people that include outright murder? We as a whole have done nothing of substance to rein in cops, including a fundamental redefinition of their function, if not their elimination.

If police do not respond or prove unequal to the task, leaving it to the rest of us, I fear the response of governors and the fedgov, whether it be sending in the National Guard or perhaps even foreign military forces. I may be completely off my rocker, but I could readily see UN troops coming in the "clean things up" here in the event of nationwide violence, as those in the highest strata of effectual power sit back, laughing and licking their chops as their dutifully useful idiots with guns do the dirty work for them.

Does anyone see Americans cleaning this up w/o any great help from "government" and setting the land back to rights? I will not call it impossible by any means, but I also cannot place it as very likely, either. Then again, I thought Clinton was a shoe-in. Here's a cringe-inducing thought: what if Clinton was intentionally torpedoed by Themme in order to put us in precisely the current circumstance? Perhaps that goes too far, but I would not be so fast to dismiss it out of hand.

One thing I do NOT see happening is the people of Portland responding in what I see as the correct manner: taking things into their own hands and putting the riots down. They will almost undoubtedly rely on the "authorities" to bail their stupid, complacent, compliant, dependent asses out regardless of the longer-term costs to those remaining dregs of our freedoms and rights. And when done, they will likely obsequiously lick the boots of police and "government" in thanks for sparing them the need to lift fingers in their own better interest.

One sad aspect if it all is my belief that a very small number of well-placed rifle shots would likely stop the nonsense in its tracks. A few dead rioters would almost certainly give the rest terminal pause.

These are the hazards I see when this brand of violence breaks out in a land whose people are become as helpless infants in their minds.

The prevalence of copsuckery has brought us to this point.

People have twisted both scripture and law to where they honestly believe it is their duty as "good people" to rely on government goons to stand in their stead when the time comes to act like men.

I too could type a tome..........To what end though?

Even here on RPF there's a contingent that firmly believes the rule of law must include police.

Interesting times indeed.

 

[rg17]

Arrest Soros! He is extremely dangerous!

 

[AZJoe]

Hypocrisy of Leftist Temper Tantrum
Paul Joseph Watson

 

[CPUd]

 

[UWDude]

The only proper solution to unabated rioting would be for the armed and good people of this land to take care of the business at hand with police staying mostly out of it. I believe I am safe in saying that this is a most unlikely prospect for the same or similar reasons that have lead Americans into the frying pan in the first place. Our current circumstance feels like a giant set up such that we the people stand to lose no matter how things pan out.

No. the proper solution is to let these people burn their own cities down. Then the people will demand an end to it, and they will be crushed. If paramilitary forces step in early, they anti-democracy rioters will be painted as victims of right wing hatred. the anti-democracy riots will have to continue until the populace at large reaches critical mass in their disdain for these people.

 

[tod evans]

No. the proper solution is to let these people burn their own cities down. Then the people will demand an end to it, and they will be crushed. If paramilitary forces step in early, they anti-democracy rioters will be painted as victims of right wing hatred. the anti-democracy riots will have to continue until the populace at large reaches critical mass in their disdain for these people.

If paramilitary forces step in at all it's a really big issue for anyone who believes in either personal liberty or the constitution or both...

Troops on US soil are a big problem, and these are troops;

 

[Lucille]

So that's why Mr. and Mrs. Clinton wore purple the day she conceded.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/behold-purple-revolution

 

[UWDude]

If paramilitary forces step in at all it's a really big issue for anyone who believes in either personal liberty or the constitution or both...

Troops on US soil are a big problem, and these are troops;

paramilitary can also mean private armed citizens.

 

[tod evans]

paramilitary can also mean private armed citizens.

It most certainly can, would you care to clarify which group you alluded to?

I'm 100% behind militia type/non-tax funded groups who take care of their property and families whereas I'm equally against government funded or sanctioned groups who claim to be upholding "the law"...

Too often their laws, 'the law' or 'the rule of law' are used to enforce nefarious purposes and for me it's just easier to discount all government funded or sanctioned groups as being possibly nefarious.

If a person doesn't know those who would lord over him he's certainly justified in fearing them, as in "I feared for my life." ™

 

[UWDude]

It most certainly can, would you care to clarify which group you alluded to?

I'm 100% behind militia type/non-tax funded groups who take care of their property and families whereas I'm equally against government funded or sanctioned groups who claim to be upholding "the law"...

Too often their laws, 'the law' or 'the rule of law' are used to enforce nefarious purposes and for me it's just easier to discount all government funded or sanctioned groups as being possibly nefarious.

If a person doesn't know those who would lord over him he's certainly justified in fearing them, as in "I feared for my life." ™

Everybody was saying private citizens need to take care of this, and stop relying on government. Over all, I was just talking about para-military, be it police, militia, or vigilante.

 

[Lucille]

Wikileaks is the gift that keeps on giving.

Anti-Trump Protests: Proof Of Professional Activist Involvement
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/anti-trump-protests-proof-professional-activist-involvement

In a story from November 12, USA Today writes an article to discredit the idea that the professional activist community is involved with organizing anti-Trump protests. They invite you to meet the protesters. USA today presents them as ordinary people. However, WikiLeaks exposes them as experienced protest organizers and activists.

USA Today presents the protests as spontaneous, involving people from “all walks of life” – certainly not professional protesters.
[...]
So should we expect that everyone quoted in that article is there out of spontaneous concern? Would a reputable newspaper properly identify its sources, noting if they were known activists and organizers? Let’s meet USA Today’s [protesters]:
[...]
If the demonstrations aren’t premeditated, then why are all these average citizens actually well-connected activists and protest organizers? USA Today has misrepresented its sources in a way that falsifies their own narrative that the closest we have to protesters are old-timers who “haven’t toted a protest sign since their anti-war days in the 1970s”. USA Today has instead helped demonstrate that the professional protest community is in fact behind the current political protests.
[...]
USA Today may not have accurately introduced anyone quoted in that article other than a high school student and the MoveOn activist.

There is one more WikiLeaks connection for this article: USA Today appears in the WikiLeaks, and not always in a capacity different from the activists. In this leaked email, the DNC schedule for an upcoming “earned media” campaign shows complete confidence that the editorial board of USA Today and other organizations will coordinate their schedules and their editorial priorities to suit the DNC.
[...]
The DNC treats reporters, newspapers, activist groups and PACs as all part of the campaign. The DNC draws no distinction between key allies and reporters. This USA Today story shows that the DNC is probably right about that.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Let them keep rioting, Trump will get even more support. I feel bad for everyone getting their property or lives damaged by these numbskulls, of course. The amazing thing is they're too stupid to realize they are alienating everyone from their cause except the most virulent anti-Trumpers of the left.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Expect this every week from here on out.

The anti war left will re-emerge as well.

 

[phill4paul]

Tolerant Peaceful Anti Trump Love protest ! Watch: Anti-Trump Protestors Attack Pregnant Women In Car In Portland! Pregnant Women Defenseless!



Wonder how fast these sunsabitches could run with some 00 buck chasing their ass?

 

[tod evans]

WTF is wrong with the males of the species?

Even that idiot with the camera stood around making a fucking video...

 

[RJB]

Wonder how fast these sunsabitches could run with some 00 buck chasing their ass?

Not faster than the double O, I bet.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Expect this every week from here on out.

The anti war left will re-emerge as well.

depends. If Trumplestilskin turns out to be a warmonger then the antiwar dems will come back. If, on the other hand, Trumplestilskin turns out to be a peacemonger, then it will be the neocon dems that emerge.

 

[69360]

They call that a riot? I've seen sports fans do worse when their team won.

 

[UWDude]

They call that a riot? I've seen sports fans do worse when their team won.

I have to say, as an occupier, these are not riots, they are peaceful protests with smatterings of violence.