Riots?

Portland Police looking for this guy who caused $200,000 in property damage:

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Blowback.

LMAO.

Dude have you not been paying attention . . . at all? These protests (riots) aren't hurting anything more than their own cause.

If I'm trying to get to work, and you and a hundred other SJW's are blocking the highway and burning trash cans in the streets, do you think a light comes on in my head and suddenly I want to get out and learn more about what you stand for? "OMFG it's an epiphany! Let me help you protest! —Oh shit, wait. I forgot I had a job to get to. Kindly GTFO of my way."

I say let them keep acting like this. At the rate they're going, no one will give half a shit about them and their whining, on a good day. Oh and be sure to call people racists and xenophobes as well while you're at it. That really helps.
 
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Saw an interview with Bernie Sanders and the purpose of these riots became crystal clear.

These are a threat, pure and simple. A threat of future violence. This is the local thugs coming in and breaking a few things to extort protection money. Make no mistake, these are planned, organized, executed and funded by the usual suspects (Soros at the top of the list). It's meant to intimidate everyone.
 
Saw an interview with Bernie Sanders and the purpose of these riots became crystal clear.

These are a threat, pure and simple. A threat of future violence. This is the local thugs coming in and breaking a few things to extort protection money. Make no mistake, these are planned, organized, executed and funded by the usual suspects (Soros at the top of the list). It's meant to intimidate everyone.

The Democrats can use these riots to get political leverage. Typically in an election that is split down the middle like this one, the incoming admin will try to bring or keep someone from the opposing party on board to chill folks out and signal their willingness to do bipartisan work. Bush and Obama' admins did this with Chertoff and Gates, respectively.

If something happens, like agreeing to confirm Obama's SCOTUS nominee, or bringing Jim Webb for Defense, I bet these riots will stop.
 
Socialists love cheating, stealing and lying. That does not work resort to violence.
 
These people are the reason I even considered voting for Trump. They made it clear that they were going to do this if he won. I think they were actually hoping for more.

Heck, maybe so was I.
 
Saw an interview with Bernie Sanders and the purpose of these riots became crystal clear.

These are a threat, pure and simple. A threat of future violence. This is the local thugs coming in and breaking a few things to extort protection money. Make no mistake, these are planned, organized, executed and funded by the usual suspects (Soros at the top of the list). It's meant to intimidate everyone.
I agree. But that paid contingent will be supplemented by the low-life thugs that look for ANY excuse to riot, burn and loot. For them, it's a form of recreation. Party time!
 
It is all but guaranteed that a large amount of these protesters are getting paid. What baffles me is why are they doing this? Yes, it just might make Hillary look more exciting in the moment, but this can only saturate the left with negatives into the future, say 2018 and 2020?

The left wingnut propagandists are usually a lot better at grasping the long range consequences of their propaganda efforts. This is out of character because it will do more harm to the left than the right, and it is being allowed to continue.

In the past, something like this would have been used as a springboard to make Obama look like a hero. They would have let this blow up and then trotted Obama out to tell everyone to calm down and go home. Voila, fabricated from nothing and Obama looks like a hero.

I do not, however, understand the strategy behind Obama staying silent. All he's doing right now is making himself look like a coward.
 
I am not sure that Obama is in charge any more, not that he has ever been in charge much. This is way bigger than he is, and I don't think he will be able to stop it.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/oregon-protest-riot/

Anti-Trump protesters march for 3rd night; Portland police call it a 'riot'

I used to live in Portland. All I can say is that it is a very different town now than it was in 2002.

There used to be a demonstration/protest held every Wed. or Thur. by the court house, ca. Salmon St, 3rd and 4th avenues. Mounted police were always there and fast to arrest anyone getting too far out of line. People rarely got too stupid - typical hippie shit, but always peaceful as far as I can recall.

Now this.

I cannot say for sure, but it appears that a day of reckoning is nigh. Many of us have felt/suspected this for years. The election of Trump has reinforced and advanced that suspicion greatly for me, not because he stands to be so great a president, but because it shows the extent to which greater proportion of the people of this land are fed up.

The days between today and 1/20/2017 stand to be the most dangerous this nation has seen since the early 19th century at the very least. It now appears as if George Soros is playing the grand provocateur with his apparent funding of events such as those occurring in Portland. This stands to lead to nothing good.

The only proper solution to unabated rioting would be for the armed and good people of this land to take care of the business at hand with police staying mostly out of it. I believe I am safe in saying that this is a most unlikely prospect for the same or similar reasons that have lead Americans into the frying pan in the first place. Our current circumstance feels like a giant set up such that we the people stand to lose no matter how things pan out.

If this nonsense continues, it will demand a response and that is where a greater danger lies, IMO.

If police respond, it may set a mental precedent of acceptance for this remedy regardless of who is acting or for what reasons. Has it not been the case with all the instances of horrific police abuse of the people that include outright murder? We as a whole have done nothing of substance to rein in cops, including a fundamental redefinition of their function, if not their elimination.

If police do not respond or prove unequal to the task, leaving it to the rest of us, I fear the response of governors and the fedgov, whether it be sending in the National Guard or perhaps even foreign military forces. I may be completely off my rocker, but I could readily see UN troops coming in the "clean things up" here in the event of nationwide violence, as those in the highest strata of effectual power sit back, laughing and licking their chops as their dutifully useful idiots with guns do the dirty work for them.

Does anyone see Americans cleaning this up w/o any great help from "government" and setting the land back to rights? I will not call it impossible by any means, but I also cannot place it as very likely, either. Then again, I thought Clinton was a shoe-in. Here's a cringe-inducing thought: what if Clinton was intentionally torpedoed by Themme in order to put us in precisely the current circumstance? Perhaps that goes too far, but I would not be so fast to dismiss it out of hand.

One thing I do NOT see happening is the people of Portland responding in what I see as the correct manner: taking things into their own hands and putting the riots down. They will almost undoubtedly rely on the "authorities" to bail their stupid, complacent, compliant, dependent asses out regardless of the longer-term costs to those remaining dregs of our freedoms and rights. And when done, they will likely obsequiously lick the boots of police and "government" in thanks for sparing them the need to lift fingers in their own better interest.

One sad aspect if it all is my belief that a very small number of well-placed rifle shots would likely stop the nonsense in its tracks. A few dead rioters would almost certainly give the rest terminal pause.

These are the hazards I see when this brand of violence breaks out in a land whose people are become as helpless infants in their minds.
 
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Honestly, I'm hoping that Trump will put them both on the spot, requesting they make a public statement telling rioters to stop! Blocking roads, breaking shit, beating people up, is not "free speech".

All they need to do is remain unresponsive. Trump would have to have them face to face to make it work, I suspect. If the media did its job honestly, they would corner Clinton and ask for her response. But I doubt it would happen. I do, however, like the idea in itself. Make them commit. It would be difficult not to without losing all credibility in the eyes of rational and sane adults. The lefties will always fail on those points, so they don't count. :)
 
The Democrats can use these riots to get political leverage. Typically in an election that is split down the middle like this one, the incoming admin will try to bring or keep someone from the opposing party on board to chill folks out and signal their willingness to do bipartisan work. Bush and Obama' admins did this with Chertoff and Gates, respectively.

If something happens, like agreeing to confirm Obama's SCOTUS nominee, or bringing Jim Webb for Defense, I bet these riots will stop.

Have you not been paying attention to Trump's basic approach to such problems? He is most apparently not an appeaser of extortionists.

Try again, please.
 
It is all but guaranteed that a large amount of these protesters are getting paid. What baffles me is why are they doing this? Yes, it just might make Hillary look more exciting in the moment, but this can only saturate the left with negatives into the future, say 2018 and 2020?

We are not talking about the brightest bulbs in the drawer and the sharpest knives on the tree.

The left wingnut propagandists are usually a lot better at grasping the long range consequences of their propaganda efforts. This is out of character because it will do more harm to the left than the right, and it is being allowed to continue.

Perhaps it really isn't.

In the past, something like this would have been used as a springboard to make Obama look like a hero. They would have let this blow up and then trotted Obama out to tell everyone to calm down and go home. Voila, fabricated from nothing and Obama looks like a hero.

OK, so then put on the analyst's hat. We cannot credibly chalk this up to panic and/or desperation. Theye are in far too strong a position for that. IF Theye are not typically stupid in this way, then perhaps the correct conclusion is that they want things to take this apparently senseless turn. Assuming this, now ask "why?" The mind reels at the possibilities.

I do not, however, understand the strategy behind Obama staying silent. All he's doing right now is making himself look like a coward.

Obama is a sock-puppet who does as he is told. Given that, see the paragraph immediately preceding this.
 
Have you not been paying attention to Trump's basic approach to such problems? He is most apparently not an appeaser of extortionists.

Try again, please.

Doesn't mean they're not trying, since it has worked in the past. Trump cut a deal with the party elites to make sure the grassroots didn't disrupt the convention. He could cut a similar deal with the Democrats, especially if the alternative would interfere with his ability to govern.
 
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